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Olmert, Ayalon: Israel doesn't need to apologize to Turkey
Ronen Medzini, Reuters
Published: 09.12.10, 17:21
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31. #24 so why are you on ynet ? (expecially from texas)
rachel ,   usa   (12.09.10)
32. Just an Allegory
Israeli 2   (12.09.10)
While working as a doctor in a mental hospital, one of the patients kicked the table next to her bed. The vase on the table, along with other objects fell and broke. Now, the patient looks at the doctor and yells at him. "You idiot! Look what you have done! I DEMAND YOUR APOLOGY right away!" Who of you talkbackers know what the doctor should have done? Apologize?
33. at the end israel will do what turkey want
frank ,   usa   (12.09.10)
34. 24#, Donna does Dallas
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (12.09.10)
Maybe these emails do not make a difference but they do relieve frustration writing them. And by the way I went for a 5km jog today and also worked 8 hours. Reading ynet ect.is my night time enjoyment.
35. :: David - #20
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.09.10)
Maybe you mean "they attacked us", regardless you are wrong. The ship was en route to Gaza not Israel, armed Israeli commandos attacked the ship in the dead of night, the untrained civilian onboard did they best they could to defend the ship and managed to subdue several professionally trained commandos and disarm them after which these commandos were presented to the ship's doctor for care. In short no IDF commandos would have been injured and no unarmed civilians would have been killed if the IDF had not decided to attack and storm the flotilla trying to bring humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza.
36. #28 you have just described....
(12.09.10)
not only Salma but also Rivka, Sarah B, Ora, Terry from Eilat, Tahl, or is Talal (whichever) and Right Wing Kahanist Bunny something or other from California, as well as a few other "old faithfuls" we don't see as often for example Linda Rivera. So you know Salma is just there to counter balance between the Jewish women with an inferiority complex who are bullies and the Christian women with an inferiority complex who are bullies. ;-P
37. To #24 That is how we'all blow off steam
jason white ,   afula,israel   (12.09.10)
Besides that I live on a hill and a ten minute walk will give me a heart attack. Actually we should organize and demand that this government resign and have new elections. No former politicians should be allowed to run or participate in the elections. But with people who served in the I.D.F. running and only people that served or are serving in the I.D.F. allowed to vote.
38. Salma
JUDAH THE LION   (12.09.10)
First of all you have to learn how to respect and be LOYAL to the country you live, sleep, etc and stand up when there is ISRAELI national song.You will be the first to celebrate if ISRAEL GOES DOWN.
39. :: Mark - #23 & William - #18
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.09.10)
Then show me a credible report which clearly establishes that these 9 civilians were armed when they were killed by the IDF? With all the media coverage, internal Israeli investigations, UN reports, etc you'd think you would be able to cite one creditable account/report that establishes that these 9 civilians were armed when they were killed by the IDF - but you can't can you?
40. Re: No. 24
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.09.10)
"All y'all?" That about says it all, y'all.
41. #31 what was that you said about Salma in 28?
Donna ,   Dallas Texas   (12.09.10)
apply it to yourself. what are you doing here (especially from the USA)
42. Apologize?
Lippy ,   Proud Israeli   (12.09.10)
Apologize? There is no such word in the Turkish language. If there was, why haven't they done so in respect of the tens of thousands of Armenians they killed? Maybe Salma can tell us.
43. Well,
Salma ,   Palestine   (12.09.10)
Very few people actually have the courage to say SORRY, How much more if they were" Israelis" !!
44. You Israelis & Turks still messing with this nonsense?
Cameron ,   USA   (12.09.10)
What a curious neighborhood. Say thank you for the firefighting aid, and drop the issue like a hot rock.
45. jewish people are genetically arab
Temuri ,   Mahachkale, Dagestan   (12.09.10)
behind this apology argument, is there anyone who knows the differences between arabs and jewish except religion. they are sharing same dna, almost same language,same accent, same features ans same habits. they are both killing their children. arabs can bomb buses by suicide bombers and jewish kill arabs more technologically
46. # 36
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.09.10)
Gee thanks for not including me !!
47. #39 Matty et al
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (12.09.10)
The credible report is in front of your eyes, which you refuse to see. To be armed includes knives, steel pipes, etc. The videos show that not only were the "civilians" (aka IHH thugs, but we have gone over this before, haven't we?) armed, but they used their arms after being shot at with...paint ball guns. There are also written reports which, as long as they prove you wrong, you consider not credible. Is it you who are not credible.
48. #39 You live in a parallel world ...but it's..
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (12.09.10)
..not this one... Haven't you seen the photoshopped pictures with knives and bloodstains removed? The videos here on YNET threads of the Turkish aggression. Oh surely you don't remember or save those ones.
49. # 19
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.09.10)
Israel will apologize to Turkey when pigs will fly. History "shell" not write it. Try using a dictionary when you post here.
50. # 35
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.09.10)
They tried to break a legal blockade, they were warned before the commandos boarded that excuse for a boat carrying loads of rubbish disguised as humanitarian aid. In short no Turkish thugs would have been killed if they had not tried to break the legal blockade.
51. Hi Salma
Lippy ,   Proud Israeli   (12.09.10)
Still having problems with your computer's keyboard printing out inverted commas before a word starting with I and at the end of the word? You should really have it attended to.
52. :: Mark - #48 & Solomon - #47
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (12.09.10)
As I thought, either of you could produce a credible report that any of the 9 civilians killed by the IDF were armed at the time, or any other time for that matter. All you can do is point at the videos and proclaim "look these thugs are violent" but no one can prove that the actual 9 civilian who were shot dead by the IDF were actually armed with any weapon when they were killed.
53. # 51 HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ; )
Salma ,   Palestine   (12.09.10)
see I have no problem ;P
54. # 51
Birdi ,   Israel   (12.09.10)
LOL. good one Lippy.
55. We are ready to pay
AIPAC Conference ,   New York   (12.09.10)
Israel is ready for apologize and pay compensation.
56. O. i. v. a .v. o. i !!! Israel don't you ever do that !
Daniela   (12.09.10)
Never apologize ! Jihadist people ready to die as martyr attacked YOU and YOUR soldiers. Turkey MUST apologize for the act of terror against YOU and pay compansations to the wounded soldiers. Islam has to pay compansation to the jews since it started to spread out. Islam is evil.
57. Is Israel today in worst position than in 1948?
leo ,   usa   (12.09.10)
Israel must demand apology from Turkey for backstabbing provocation and demand international punishment of grand provocateur Erdogan along with it. I know it is very long shot, but it is the only proper response none the less. Turkey will eventually cure itself and will be as ashamed of Erdogan as much it is proud of Attaturk. And if not, then hell with this loser of a country.
58. #52 Mark
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (12.09.10)
The soldiers killed those threatening them. The videos plainly show everyone in the vicinity of the soldiers had a weapon; yes, knives and steel rods are weapons. This is the closest proof that there is. You, for that matter, cannot prove that those who died were not armed, not even from the videos. From one of the soldiers: In contrast to earlier reports, the commandos said that they began using their weapons within a minute and a half after boarding the ship, due to the extreme violence they faced. One of the reasons S. pulled out his gun right after landing on the ship was because one of the mercenaries was pointing a pistol, snatched from one of the commandos, at another commando’s head.
59. Turkey and Israel.
JStreet ,   Washington   (12.10.10)
Look Turkey was the biggest importer of the israeli military industry. Israeli Jets could train in turkish airspace few years ago. Israel wanted to solve his water problems with the MED STREAM coming from Turkey. So Israel needs Turkey.And finally the goverment in Israel has learned it is not good to be stubborn with "old" friends. For a better future in this region Turkey and Israel must get over about political tensions and must find the path back to old times.
60. To #17- Correction
Ibrahim ,   Ankara, Turkey   (12.10.10)
You say: "Once the Turks raised a weapon, they were toast" International Treaty and International Customary Law says: "Use only proportionate force" Furkan Dogan, a 19 year old American teen was shot 4 times in the head at a distance of 40cm and twice in the chest at point blank range. He was weilding no weapons but a video camera. Do you call this the use of "proportionate force"? The UN does not! The FBI does not! The Turkish prosecutors office does not! Cut the crap. The reality is that if the IDF soldiers did not have international arrest warrants against them Israel would not even sit at the table with the Turks. Be objective and wake up. If those on the Mavi Marmarra were "terrorists" why is MK Haneen Zoabi not being charged with treason? Why was the former President of the Swiss Confederation freed by the IDF?
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