they probably will in games without frontiers war without tears." - Gabriel

Thought you all might find these interesting. http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/09/despite-iranian-claims-stuxnet-worm-causing-nuclear-havoc/ http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2010/12/07/stuxnet_its_the_real_thing_baby SWEEEET!!

http://timeswampland.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/r41524.pdf By the way, it isn't just Iran's nuclear facilities that have been compromised. Iran's military command and control structures have been under attack as has the computers controlling its satellite program. You gotta love it. Israel has kicked Iran to the curb without firing a single cruise missile. Stuxnet did not take days, weeks or months to develop -- it took YEARS. And one thing you can pretty much count on: if Stuxnet I was launched, there's a Stuxnet II, III and IV waiting in the wings. Just remember; you heard it here, first. I've been telling you guys all this since September.

you said ... "I don't know about Hamas, but the Hezb has not done an excellent job defending Lebanon against the Zionist invaders thanks to the Iranian moral, military, and financial help. Do you have a problem with that, sistah." I agree. It's clear that Hezb has not done an excellent job, you are correct that Iran's sloppy assistance is to blame. But why would Sarah B have any problem with this? Or did you mean something else? Did you have a ... ?

1. I have been telling you and telling you for MONTHS about Stuxnet. Like I said -- just because you lead a meaningless existence does not mean that I do; just because you have no access to a brain trust anywhere in the world does not mean that I do not. Something tells me you no longer find Stuxnet laughable, eh? 2. "Iranian" and "moral" -- there's a fine oxymoron .... even better than "jumbo shrimp!" 3. Hizbollah lives .... or dies .... very much at Israel's whim. And there's not a damned thing Iran (or any other country) can do about it. 4. "Zionist invaders" .... what on EARTH is someone with your primitive mindset and Teheran-inspired rhetoric doing in the United States?

A recent article in the intl press cited comments from two of the largest Internet security firms that they were receiving more traffic from Iran these days than from the US. A huge jump since Stuxnet happened. One site claims how to remove Stuxnet and they logged tons of inquiries from the Middle East, with visitors visibly trying to cover their host country. One even claiming to be "Israeli". Hahaha. Now A-jad admits Stuxnet did damage but was "quickly contained". No one in the world even believes that...except you. So, Sarah B and myself relish in your chaotic rush to self-induced naivety

Its an Iranian knee-jerk reaction to accuse Israel but never have you actually had proof. An investigation of Mugniyeh's death ended up accusing Syrians and Palestinians, not Israel. An investigation of Mabhouh's death in Dubai has yet to present evidence of Israel's involvement, although two "Palestinians" were caught directly involved in it. You were saying?

your wild speculations are ridiculous!

Oh, get real. You come from a country that fought a war against a vastly inferior Iraq by throwing 12 year old boys in the path of tanks and you think you present a challenge to Israel? Can you spell "Stuxnet?" Israel is controlling all of Iran's key computer systems. HOW DO YOU LIKE US NOW?

Oh, I'm sorry. You're right, of course. Haiti is responsible. Silly us!

More silly threats and musings? Sarah has basically pulled your pants down in front of all of us. Sheesh Boo boo, Its time time to slink off to your Kat box and relieve some of those snappy rejoinders coming out of your orifice of Delphi, homie. BTW Krappy, you just make a further ass of yourself when you try to be hip.

Sarah B You know you live in fantasyland. Your rhetoric is a crutch for you and others on which to cling in order to try and convince yourselves that Iran is no match for Israel. I've got news for you, Iran is more than a match for Israel. Iran has some of the best brains on the planet and not all of them are dissidents. You would serve yourself and others of your ilk better to recognise that Iran could quite easily destroy Israel.

Each and every time your mob venture near the Iranians they exact their revenge so deftly that everyone runs around like chicken little blaming everyone else. Note the Algiers Accord etc and the neck hold they used for their cause ie US must terminate all lawsuits, nullify all judgments, prohibit all litigation and end all claims by binding arbitration.

Don't know what you are smokin' but the facts are that despite all the weapons supplied by the West Iraq/Saddam was unable to defeat Iran. Iraq is the country that is 'no more' and Iran has gone from strength to strength. Hezbollah the Iranian proxy chased Israel out of Lebanon and their other proxy is gearing up to do the same in Palestine.

Would you like some hummus with that? Stick to your Shisha (water pipe). We shall wait within the next several years as you say or maybe another 62 years and we shall see.... my friend! Waiting and nonsense is what middle east does best. They all know that they can't defeat Israel but why not waiting and crying.

I meant to say the Hezb has done an excellent job defending Lebanon. The proof for that is not one square centimeter of Lebanon is under Israel's occupation any longer! The "not" was just a typo, that's all.

you are way to present here...have someone from Chabad USA invite you for dinner you need human contact!

Did you change your mind based on evidence? This is not possible since there is no evidence of Israel's involvement. Funny how two teams of assassins on motorcycles set off explosive devices, then speed off in broad daylight without a trace or chase. The scientist murdered earlier in the year promoted student protests. Perhaps these recent targets were planning to defect.

By chanting "Death to America", Iran conveys desire to destroy the USA. If that were to occur, you would live as a dhimmi of Iran and you could expect to be persecuted like Christians in Iran.

Chortle, chortle, tee hee. Of COURSE I live in a "fantasyland." There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the centrifuges in Natanz! There is absolutely NOTHING wrong at Bushehr. Qum and Isfahan are just generating weapons-grade uranium at RECORD speeds, right? Right? Get a grip, asshole. Take your anti-psychotic medication like the nice doctor in the clean white coat WANTS you to do -- it REALLY is for your own good. Iran has some of the "best brains on the planet?" Really? Please recount for me the Nobel prizes those minds have garnered. Please recount for me the international recognition in professional journals that have accrued to those "brilliant" Iranian minds. Here is the cold, hard truth: Iran could not defeat a vastly inferior Iraq. It took Iran nearly a decade to achieve a shame-faced draw against Iraq. Iran concedes that 500,000 men were lost in that effort -- I have it on VERY good authority that the number is much closer to one million (and, as I have demonstrated, my information is very, VERY good). Tiny Israel -- no bigger than the State of New Jersey -- has humbled Iran without a SINGLE SHOT BEING FIRED. That's a good thing for civilization, actually. If you HAD half a brain, you'd be quaking in your boots. The fact of the matter is that Israel has kicked Iran's ass -- not with missiles (you know, the kind the ayatollahs parade through the streets of Teheran). Not with Israel's considerable military might (which includes, I might add, nuclear warheads which Israel can deliver from land, sea and air). No -- what you have here is a perfect example of Jewish brain power. Israel took out Iran with a computer worm. Stuxnet. An elegant, sophisticated gift that keeps on giving. Iran destroy Israel? Oh, I think not. Count yourself EXTREMELY blessed that Israel did not push the button. Iran is a great, big beached whale. DO NOT tempt us. DO NOT. You will not like the results; that much, I guarantee. Iran could quite easily be destroyed. (Well, actually, they have been destroyed -- without a single drop of blood being shed.) That's a good thing, don't you agree? Or would you prefer to see Iran turned into a giant glowing cinder? Israel can do that. Is that what you really, truly want?

Say what? I'm sorry -- I am really astute and quite intelligent, but your post is incomprehensible. What Iranian revenge? Can you summon all your arguably non-existent literary skills and be a bit more specific, please? What is it you are babbling about with respect to litigation? That's my wheelhouse, sweetie. Do please try and be a bit more coherent. If you can.

Dinner invitation? Huh? We had a lovely dinner with our lovely next-door neighbors. (To anyone living in New York, I highly recommend the restaurant Per Se.) Can you stick to the substantive issues of this thread, please?

You meant to say? YOU MEANT TO SAY? But you didn't say, did you. Freud would have a field day with you, bubbeleh! Why don't you quit while you are so far behind?

Unable to defeat Iran? A vastly inferior Iraq was able to achieve a draw against Iran. Put that in your smoke and pipe it, Lydia. Your great, vaunted Hezbollah lives in an underground bunker, just like the Nazis in the final days of the Third Reich. Should you draw some parallels from that? Oh yes. You most definitely should. All Israel has to do is push the proverbial button, and Lebanon becomes a glowing cinder. You would do well to keep this in mind.

If Iran wasn't more than a match for Iraq then Israel hasn't much to worry about. All those Iranian brains you are talking about have their hands full with Stuxnet. Your post to Sarah B shows us that the real stupidity lies with those who overestimate Iran and underestimate Israel.

Sort of like Obama saying Muslim when he meant to say Christian.

Just as I suspected you are an arm chair theorist. You have nothing on the line HERE YOU DONT LIVE IN ISRAEL.

Take it easy girl - Is this how do you celebrate your hollydays? You must be pretty lonely out there.

Duh! As I have always said, I spend about six months of the year in New York. The balance, I spend in Saviyyon, our home in Israel. This doesn't exactly come as a surprise to anyone, so why are you patting yourself on the back and cheering? I reprise --- DUH!.