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Jewish museum in Warsaw half-complete
Associated Press
Published: 11.12.10, 11:07
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1. there is no Christian museum in Poland
observer   (12.11.10)
Six million Polish citizens were killed during the Holocaust - only half were Jewish. The greatest number of Gentile rescuers of Jews were Poles, despite the fact that only in Poland were people (and their loved and ones) immediately executed if caught trying to save Jews.
2. to #1 from where did you get your data?
ghostq   (12.12.10)
a comics book? 6 million jews, 3 millions poles around 1.5 milion gypsies and other minorities, and some poles murder jews, that is from personal knowledge(a friend of mine hed family members who were murdered by poles) not fiction.
3. to the"observer" : my previous adress has been
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.12.10)
Anin-Warszawa, that's before you kicked my ass to Palestine.... Spare people the bull...I KNOW YOU !! You've got the whole bloody Poland as a "museum to Christianity", what else do you need? Personally I couldn't care less about the museum, just turn it to a shopping center............
4. To 1
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.12.10)
Gentille Poles had also the most opportunities to save Jews : there were more than 3 million . In Holland , with a Jewish population of 140,000 , there are around 5000 Righteous , only a 1000 less than in Poland . And they also risked their lives , less than the Poles
5. To # 2 . Try to read and UNDERSTAND
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.12.10)
what # 1 wrote . But that's probably to difficult for you , to understand .
6. #4 Charles, how many Dutch were sentenced to death ?
Albrecht ,   P.M.   (12.12.10)
You have written, the Dutch also risked their lives. How many Dutch were sentenced to death due to helping the Jews during the WW2?
7. To 6 , how many Poles were murdered
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.12.10)
for hiding Jews , do you have the numbers ? And not all Poles suspected to help Jews were murtdered , see Miss Sendler who was arrested , tortured but not murdered . Some Dutch were send to death camps for helping Jews , so they risked their lives too .
8. to #6 more than you think, you just don't know
ghostq   (12.12.10)
cause they don't advertize their personal stories, you have to understand that the first victims of the nazi regim were gay Germans folowed by handycapped chritian children, the jews issue was in much later phase. but the anti jewish wave was to give a final punch to socialist aka Russia who was after all the dearm of Karl Maxs in the making. which was jewish.
9. how many Jews?
observer   (12.12.10)
some 200 full-blooded Jews (the Schutzjuden, or protected Jews) were spared persecution in Berlin alone. One way or another, at least 6,000 full-blooded Jews served in the Wehrmacht, Source: “Hitler's Jewish Soldiers: The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military “ by Bryan Mark Rigg released by the University Press of Kansas in 2002 & 2004. Jewish population in Poland before WW II were 3.5 million, from which about 3 million were killed. Source: you can count the 0.5 million Jewish Poles in Israel, you are the Israeli.
10. to #9 let's not forget that after WW1
ghostq   (12.13.10)
the jewish population got even smaller, there is a reason for that, the gov policy was in away against Russia, Russians communism ironically is portrait as Jewish idea, hence the reason not to let anything from the foul conquerer from north. so in other words, the treatment toward jews is not just during the WW2 war but also during the cold war.
11. to #5 stop tweeting, you twat :P
ghostq   (12.13.10)
gramps it really doesn't matter about comemoration, it's the living part everyone should focus try to explain people that this situation might occure, and in what used to be "Israe friendly" states like UK or USA, if you ask me(and you don't but I tell you anyway) today the people who harm jewish rights is not Germany or polin, to day jews r in much greater risk in states like the USA or the UK, especially when in the UK there r so many arrest warents against Israelis, that is how the nazi regim started before the gettos system, soon the jewish relatives of Israelis will be acused of cooperating with Israelis and very short road to dicatorship in really bad global economic situation.
12. Observer , you distord as always .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.13.10)
His work was very criticised by other historians , amongst them Raoul Hilberg . The title of this work was misleading too , and you naturally toke it "a la lettre" because it were NOT full blooded Jews he is talking about , but MISCHLINGE , half or les Jewish .
13. #12 how many Jewish Mischlinge?
observer   (12.13.10)
15,000 Mischlinge worked as Nazi soldiers in WWII.
14. 13 : your sources please !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.13.10)
Those in the book you cite were only mischlinge , not 'volljude" as you intentionally erred .
15. #14 the correct number is 150,000
observer   (12.13.10)
in his book "Hitler's Jewish soldiers", Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought--perhaps as many as 150,000 Mischlinge served in the Wehrmacht during World War II. Rigg’s collection of documents, videotapes, and wartime memoirs, are presented at the Bryan Mark Rigg Collection, part of the Federal German Military Archives (the Bundesarchiv), in Freiburg, Germany. Raul Hilberg believes Rigg’s thesis is presented in a sensationalistic and unbalanced way. Richard Evans and Omer Bartov cosider that in most cases Rigg spoke about about "mixed Jews" as defined by the Nazi ideology. what an objective way of criticism. There is some elaboration of Hitler's obsessive fear of his Jewishness, as well as the probable Jewishness of Reinhard Heydrich, one of the chief architects of the Holocaust itself. Most relevant documents that trace the ancestry of top Nazi officials have been destroyed.
16. to 9 . Full-blooded ?
Jol ,   Belgium   (12.14.10)
in "doubdfull" cases they received "aryan certificates" , some of them even signed by hitler . Mischlinge , by Rigg himself , a great majority of them did NOT even consider themselve Jewish . But for you , they were "full blooded" Jews . You are thus worse as hitler himself . Not woth to continue a discussion with such "people" In what are those "mischlinge" related to the Jewish museum ? The WWII tragedy is part of the 1000 years long history of the Jews in Poland .
17. To 15
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.14.10)
Those mischlinge , many of them descendants of converted Jews , received aryan papers . Jews had sometimes to convert in order to be allowed to continue their work , long before nazisme came to power . An example is Karl Landsteiner who discovered the blood groups . Most of them did'nt even consider themselve Jewish . But for you they are Jews of course . My advice : follow the of the victims .
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