Has everybody forgotten?There's supposed to be some sort of UN inquiry into the affair going on. Let's see its conclusions BEFORE there is any response from the Israel government. I wonder why the Turkish government is so urgent in its demands of Israel.Could it possibly be that the enquiry isn't going as the Turkish government would like? Let's wait and see. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

I am a 60 years old American living in NY but born and raised in Turkey. Turkish is my native language and I follow Turkish media of all political view daily. There has been no court that found Israel guilty for the intervention to the flotilla. In fact when Turkish PM Erdogan mentioned to President Obama to jointly sue Israel on this matter President Obama (A Harvard educated lawyer) told him that there was no legal basis to sue. In fact even seasoned Turkish diplomats such as Ilter Turkmen wrote on this matter indicating that there was no legal basis to sue Israel for enforcing a blockade as per the existing UN conventions and maritime laws. The US citizen of Turkish origin (Furkan Dogan) left behind a diary indicating that he was going to this mission to die for his cause. The diaries were published in the Turkish media including in Hurriyet. He wrote that he was struggling between the love for his mother and the love for his religious beliefs at the end the love of his religious beliefs came stronger. Let me also remind you that the terrorist who had provided the maps of a US military facility at Fort Dix was a Turkish resident in Philadelphia.

You must be out of your mind ! You should consider medical help.

or claim that the Activists onboard were "terrorists", you are obviously so blinded by your ardent, rabid pro-zionism, anti-Arab beliefs that you are no longer able to think rationally. Think if Turkish military commandos landed from helicopters onto an Israeli civilian ship in the middle of the night with guns blazing. A few of the Israeli civilians on board fought back and captured 3 of the commandos, then when confronted by overwhelming force released the commandos. The remainder of the commandos then went around and fired bullets from point blank range into the heads of the injured Israeli civilians laying on the ground. If that happened, would you be calling for Israel to apologize? Would you call the Israeli civilians on board that were murdered terrorists?

You owe the families of those nutters nothing. They went south looking for trouble, and were given a bullet and box. Done deal - it's a wrap.

The official story is that a group of Muslims -- known as the Young Turks -- were responsible for the Armenian massacre, but there is a lot of evidence that the Young Turks were Crypto Jews. “If he (Erdogan) comes here with Turkish warships there can be no doubt that it would amount to a declaration of war,” Major-Genral (Res.) Uzi Dayan told Army Radio. “We need to draw a clear line and say that whoever crosses it will not be boarded but sunk.” was that a sane answer from Uzi. Few days after the attack on The Gaza Flotila, Turkey halted all state energy and water projects with Israel. It's Israel who proposed paying compensation to relatives of those killed during a raid on a Gaza-bound flotilla, in exchange for Turkey's help in protecting the Israeli navy against lawsuits. Today December 13, 2010, Turkey, Israel agreed to start to feasibility studies on the Mediterranean Pipeline Project (Medstream) that would consist of five pipelines that would carry water, natural gas, oil, electricity and fibreoptics from Turkey's Mediterranean coast to Israel. it is carrot and stick policy. I can say that Turkey look at it like this: if I can not drag Israel's leg in a marine battle, then cutting the umbilical cord is the solution. Remind you how feeble was the Israeli navy even after victory: the INS Eilat senior pass through full blown sinking in 1967 near Alexandria by very little missile boats.

Just because you don't like hamas terror organization that calls for your destruction and wages terror war on your civilians, it does not give you the right to stop and inspect ships traveling to gaza in support of hamas. You should think twice next time, you saw how tough and violent our peace activists are.

If Doug wants to set up scenarios,let him at least compare like with like. As he doesn't say otherwise,I take it that he's setting out a situation where a ship carrying people with no illegal,violent and evil intent is just sailing on its way and is unexpectedly boarded. THAT SCENARIO IS A MILLION MILES FROM THE TRUTH OF THE MARMARA AND ITS TERRORIST CAMP-FOLLOWING PASSENGERS. Sorry for shouting but I think that Doug must be a thick head and has trouble taking things in. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

Turkey's foreign minister described the reports of an Israeli offer as "speculative" and said his government's demands had not changed.

Your analogy is completely inapposite. For one thing, Turkey is not enforcing a fully legal and internationally-recognized embargo. Israel is. Secondly, "guns blazing?" Hardly. Paintball guns were used until the terrorists on board the MAVI MARMARA attacked the Israeli troops. The videotapes of the raid tell a very different story than your fictionalized account of the events that transpired. Thirdly, there was no humanitarian aid aboard the vessel. A couple of cartons of long expired over-the-counter medications and a couple of boxes of toys do not constitute humanitarian aid by anyone's definition. The fact of the matter is that the MAVI MARMARA was informed that it was attempting to breach a fully legal and internationally recognized blockade. They were warned to turn around. The vessel ignored the warning. They were warned to heave to. The vessel ignored that warning as well. You pays your money, you takes your chances. And you lose the right to whine when you suffer consequences that arise directly from your actions. So all of Turkey's whining and whimpering carry no substance under all recognized international statute and maritime conventions. The Turks gambled and lost. Too, too bad.

with this government or with other one , YOU WILL SAY SORRY & PAY : )

Oh yes it does. Just what do you think a legal blockade is, anyway? Tough and violent peace activists? Oh, where do I begin with that one!

If Israeli civilian ship was trying to enter the Varosha section of Famagusta (Magosa) in Cyprus which has been under Turkish occupation blockading the home owners to return to their legal owned homes since 1974 to make a political point and the Turkish military intervened killing Israeli civilians I would not ask Turkey to apologize. However Israeli civilians would not do such a thing. However many years ago a group of Cypriot Greek civilian motorcyclists tried to cross the Green line to protest Turkish invasion and Turkish troops fired killing one (or more I am not that sure about the numbers). There has never been an apology from Turks to Greeks on that matter.

that has been your stupid wet dream for 63 years, yours and the arabs, that is. it iwll never happen. we jews and israelis are just too superior, smarter and geniuses than you pals. you will never win and we will never pay. pay for what??? for the pals' stupidity and barbarism?

teh founders of the young Turks and its political arm Union and Progress (Ittihat ve Terakki) were not Crypto Jews at all. Mehmet bey, Resat Bey, Ayetullah bey (founder of Fenerbahce soccer team), Resat bey, Nuri bey, Namik Kemal, Refik Bey, Ali Suavi, Ziya Pasa and Agah efendi were the founders and noe are crypto Jews. Most were well educated Muslim Turks at Galatasaray high school which followed a French curriculum.

Oh, that will happen when pigs fly or when a State of "Palestine" is created. Take your pick -- they have an equal likelihood of ever happening.

a Jewish historian claims that in 1908 the Young Turks began conscripting Jews into their army. Sabbatai Zvi proclaims himself the Jewish Messiah in Salonica. He leads thousands of Jewish followers on an exodus to Palestine. On the way Zvi becomes a Muslim. His followers saw this as God’s plan and also become Muslims. In 1716 a group called the “Donmeh” forms in Salonica headed by Sabbatai Zvi’s successor, Baruchya Russo. In 1900 the Donmeh numbers over 100,000. Known as “Crypto Jews,” they appear to be Muslims, but were Jews. In 1891 a political group from the Donmeh forms called The Committee of Union and Progress, later called The Young Turks. The group is headed by Freemason Jew Emmanuel Carrusso with the help of the Rothschilds. In 1908 the Jewish Young Turks revolt and force the Sultan Abdül Hamid II into submission. In 1914 the Jewish Young Turks bolster the paid assassin Gavrilo Princep which sparks WW I. In 1915 The Armenian Holocaust engineered by the Jewish Young Turks leaves 1.5 million Armenian Christians murdered.

More co-opting without attribution, eh? What I am certain of is that (i) You have no idea who Shabetai Zvi was; (ii) You have no idea what Freemasonry is; (iii) You have no idea who Gavrilo Princep was, nor whom he assassinated. Among other things. For you to copy and paste something scurrilous like attributing the massacre of the Armenians to the Jewish people is pretty much par for the course as far as you are concerned. No one takes you seriously, anyway; you are completely incapable of articulating an original thought and everyone knows it. Why do you keep coming back and making a fool of yourself on this forum?

Uninformed leftie bleater that has no doubt never been out of the booming metroplis of Rochester...sick.

But they are all wrong. The ultra Islamists in Turkey has a habit of branding anyone that they do not agree with as Donme or Sabetayists. Almost all of these allegations are not true just like the information that you received from your bogus resources. Many Jews - including some of my family members that are no longer living - were either members of supporters of the Young Turk movement and the Union and Progress party however none were among the founders nor among the leadership positions. On the other hand there is nothing wrong in being a Sabetayist. Just like Islam, Christianity or Judaism it is a belief, not better not worse then the others. I am not a believer of anything that can not be explained by science or facts. This is why I am telling you that what you have been informed are not facts. It is not very ancient history and all very well documented. If any of the prominent Jeunne Turk were Sabetayist it would be fine too bit they were not.

All these comments about IHH being terrorist (which coutry states that? stop making up stuff), that Turkey should appologise, u guys are nuts! Bottom line is that trained comandoes killed civilians with sticks and stones! Turkey was your ally and you acted stupidly. Time will show that Israel will appologise, they know they are guilty, now they are just trying to work out wording to help calm all you nutters out there. Say sorry, pay up and move on or else you are destined to be alone..

You made up a very nice little story there. Sounds like you have your feet firmly planted in reality.

Did you know that Turkey itself banned the IHH as a terrorist organization back in 1997, I think it was? Turkey was not Israel's ally. Turkey was -- and continues to be -- the ally of Iran and Syria, two rogue state sponsors of terror. Israel is guilty of nothing beyond defending a fully legal and internationally recognized blockade. If you wish to mourn dead terrorists, you are free to do so. Just as Israel is free NOT to mourn dead terrorists.

Observer is a past master at cutting and pasting other people's work without attribution. He is a complete fool, and cannot write a single coherent sentence in English. That is how we know when he cuts and pastes and plagiarizes.

I am guessing that you have no problem when the Canadian Coast Guards blows up Chinese and Korean fishing smacks when they fish in Canadian waters, is that right? More fool you. Israel acted to interdict a fully legal and internationally recognized blockade. Of course, Israel could have taken a page out of Canada's book, and blown the MAVI MARMARA out of the water, right? But Israel didn't. That's what makes us better than you.

Wow wow wow, what a scrambled egg coctail when your try to re write Turkish history. You and Turks like you is Exactly the reason that Turkey will go back to dark ages again. Few years ago I had the privilege to meet a great Turk; Prof Gazi Yashargil, recognized as one of the greatest neurosurgeon on this planet.(Just look at Wiki..) He claimed that Turkey lost its way from prosperity because of the Jewish Exodus from Turkey in 1942 as a reaction "Varlik Vergisi" which was an extremely unfair tax for non Muslims. If what you write is true, you should be proud to have Jewish or donme Turks to impact progress on the Ottomans to rid them of all the military blunders they suffered after they were kicked out of Vienna . Then, they lost every war and finally the Ottoman empire! However, the dark forces in Turkey lost when the Great Ataturk saved your country from being erased from the map. If I were a Turk, I would be proud of the Young Turks movement weather they were Jewish, Kurdish, Laz or anybody else. Problem you have now is, that you dont have enough Jews left in your country to put you again on the way of successto have a prosperous and progressive country. You have spilled away the baby with the water. And now you try to re-write your STORY (anyway not history ). That is the best you can do!

With or without apology fanatic islamist Erdogan will unfortunately continue to provoke.He want Israel to humiliate to any prize and be an islamist leader.NATO and the European Com. don't need such dangerous people.