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Top US officer says Iran still driving for a bomb
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Published: 18.12.10, 14:06
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1. Talk is cheap commitment to you word is....
Galut ,   selah   (12.18.10)
Non-existant....
2. I don't see the Yanks helping on this one
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (12.18.10)
The whole world including Israel, the Arab countries, Europe, and the US itself - dreads the day Iran would achieve a nuclear bomb. Israel would love to take out this threat, but we cannot do such thing alone. And clearly we cannot expect the Arabs or Europe to help us out there, for obvious reasons. The only country capable of delivering a series of decisive military strikes on Iran so that their nuclear abilities would be halted, is the USA. If they decide they're going for it, we'll be more than willing to help in any way we can. However, as things look today I don't see the Americans doing anything. The American public will not accept another war and casualties for a goal they perceive, is more in the benefit of other countries. Of course they are dead wrong on this, but after the recent wars it is only natural for them to adopt such position. So... What does the world do now?
3. answer to #2 Tahl's last question...
Rafi ,   US   (12.18.10)
Elect a more decisive US President!
4. power has its limits
free egyptian ,   Egypt   (12.18.10)
Tahl , i like your acknowledgment that israel power has its limits when it comes to Iran , because many israelis and some Arabs still believe that Israel is invincible and can't be deterred.
5. If and when... Obama will back Sunnis against Shiite Iran
Guido ,   Milano Italy   (12.18.10)
Obama will have to act drastically one day against Iran, not for the good of Israel, not for the security of the US. If and when, it will be for a single reason, backing Sunnis against Shiites. Israel should just sit and wait (of course if the experts deem it safe). Mehdi or not Mehdi, the iranians want a catastrophe to happen, but not to be completely annihilated: and pushed against the wall, desperate Israel can and will destroy before being destroyed. Samson is alive in their memory. So iranian first easiest target are the Shiites caferoun.
6. Useless Sanctions are a Joke
Linda Rivera ,   New York, USA   (12.18.10)
Genocidal Iran has stated repeatedly their intention to "wipe Israel off the map" and "destroy America". Will our weak leaders wait until it is too late allowing Iran to perpetrate a devastating nuclear holocaust? Where are the strong leaders to protect Israel, America and the Free World? The appropriate action must be taken now before it is forever too late!
7. I have news for you, Admiral Mullen. Iran already has
Rivkah   (12.18.10)
nuclear weapons. According to the ELS Torah codes, Iran became an atomic power in 5770, the Jewish year that ended in September 2010. Iran will use the weapons directly or through a front group and destroy the US military in Iraq (Ezekiel chapter 32). Also targeted is the Pharoah leader of the US troops. Who or what is Pharoah in Ezekiel chapter 32? The ELS Torah code matrix at www.arkcode.com reveals that President Obama is Pharoah of Egypt. So the USA is Egypt because it is Josef the hammer of the whole earth who was told by the Patriarch Jacob that his two sons would become a great nation (USA) and a multitude of nations with the gates of their enemies (British Commonwealth). America and Britain's Great Seals are half Egyptian just as Manasseh and Ephraim, the sons of Josef, were since their mother was Egyptian. Since the Pharoah will be targeted, too, that means a nuclear attack on Washington, D.C. most likely since Michael Drosnin in his book Bible Code III indicates that will happen if not averted. He believes Obama will survive but Ezekiel chapter 32 says he dies. But Pharoah could be the military leader of the US forces in Iraq that will be killed along with US forces by a sword of the King of Babylon, an name for Satan or a leader indwelt by Satan. The problem with attacking Iran before they attack the West is that immediately after a war with Iran, the US will collapse from an attack by Russia and China and a lot of other nations. Zechariah says 2/3 of Israel (includes America which is Josef) will die. Amos says 1 out of 10 will survive in the cities (that are targeted by nukes most likely). Then a third of mankind will die in retaliatory strikes which means 2 billion people will die.
8. #2 It's simple, really.
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (12.18.10)
1.Israel pre-empts. 2. Iran retaliates against US ships in the Gulf. 3. US forced to take action.
9. Rivkah the cult you belong to has you wound a lil too tight
DANNY ,   America   (12.18.10)
too many facts without anyway to check them. Just because you believe you are one of the 144k don't make it so. In my eyes it just make you a crack pot!
10. For Linda Rivera
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (12.18.10)
Which military do your kids serve in? How much extra are you willing to part with in taxes? What is your strategy? Nuke 'til they glow? or invasion? If invasion, where do you get the troops? From the Korean border or from Afghanistan? there aren't enough in Iraq to sustain even a month's operations. Or do your Evangelical allies plan a draft? And who would pay for that? China? Who are these strong and delusional leaders that have troops nobody else has?
11. Mullen is simply providing passifiers to the...
Persian CAT   (12.18.10)
"royals" of the Persian Gulf tribes, who are very very nervous about the US and Iran coming to agreement on the future of the ME. The "New Middle East" will consist of Iran, Turkey, Iraq and Syria. The tribal chief of the Persian Gulf Arab so-called countries, who have been bestowed titles like the "king" by the foreigners who put the there, will be by-standers in this arrangement because they have nowhere to go. Their money is "kept" by the Western banks, and their expensive "weapons" miss the latest and greatest. They NEED to be pacified 24x7 by the US and the good Admiral is doing just that.
12. Re #7 ELS Torah codes
Galut ,   Selah   (12.18.10)
ELS Torah codes does have some validity... but I think it is a dangerious thing to step out on a branch and use it as a predictive tool... certainly it can be used as something to make us aware of future posibilities... but those possibilities shouldn't be written in stone...
13. The Stage Is Set
Brazen   (12.19.10)
iran has been blatently saber ratteling ,armming their proxies, deffing sanctions and spewing their anti-Israeli/ Zionist propaganda at most if not all friday call to prayer cult sessions. Over and over calling for the desruction of the Israeli (zionist entity) bribing all regional moslem nations with money or threats either way their behavior and military posturing is begging for confrentation they think if war is the begining their mahdi will bring victory?
14. Danny #9: I would not have you dismiss
Israeli 2   (12.19.10)
Rivkah's explanations too fast or just yet. It may be coming to fruition after all. Not every prophecy will come true nor every interpretation is correct but I do not believe that she belongs to a cult. She is quite spiritual we must all admit.
15. 12 Galut, Selah: The way to change outcomes predicted
Rivkah   (12.19.10)
in ELS Torah codes is to get them out in the public so that one factor on the matrix can be changed if possible. When Prime Minister Netanyahu was Prime Minister in the 1990's, there was a code about his assassination if he went to Jordan in July in a particular year. Turns out, he was scheduled to go there that year in a couple of weeks when he got the warning and cancelled the trip. He is still alive.
16. 6 Linda Rivera, NYC, USA: According to former FBI
Rivkah   (12.19.10)
Los Angeles Bureau Chief Ted Gunderson, terrorists already have 24 suitcase nukes in America and 37 surface to air missiles that the US government knows about. They plan to hit 10 cities in one day: Washington, D.C., Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, Miami, Houston, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Valdez Alaska, and New York City. It is the destruction of those cities that is being delayed because although attacking and neutralizing Iran will be successful, the consequence will be the immediate collapse of America from attacks within the country by terrorists and also by China, North Korea, Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Colombia and Venezuela and possibly other nations. The suitcase nukes and surface to air missiles came into the USA from Canada and got to Canada from Colombia. That was in 2007. How many there are in the USA now is anyone's guess. Daniel chapter 8 says the notable horn of Daniel which must be the USA (Gentile or Grecian he-goat is UN with notable horn which is USA attacks the ram with two horns subduing it which is Media Persia or Iraq-Iran). Alexander the Great did not have airplanes (touches not the ground) and Greece was not a nation from the ends of the earth in ancient times or now from Jeusalem the center point for prophecy and God's perspective. America will divide into four parts from internal strikes by terrorists, civil war and foreign invasions. EMP attacks (high altitude nuclear explosions) will shut down the electrical grid and stop most vehicles and computers and applicances from running. I suggest people have 24 gauge steel sheets put on the outside or inside of their homes topped with Insulfoam, chicken wire, stucco cement and a topcoat of colored cement sprayed on with the metal grounded with copper poles to create a Faraday Cage around their homes to protect from dirty electricity and radiation and microwaves and radiowaves and possibly EMP since that would harden or militarize the home. It takes a week to get the 3ft by 8ft steel sheets and a couple of weeks for construction people to put that on the inside or outside of the home including ceilings and garage. Put sliding steel bolts on all doors without key locks to outside as well as on the garage door to protect from home invasion since 9 out of 10 people in targeted cities will die according to Amos the Prophet. The earth will no longer bury its dead and Isaiah 26:20 says to go into your chambers and stay there. Also, put rolling metal shutters on the inside of all windows and doors so they can be secured. Have a water supply in the home as well as a food supply. You are in a targeted city.
17. Admiral Mullen may not be aware of information Ted Gunderson
Rivkah   (12.19.10)
presented on a lecture for the Prophecy Club of Topeka, Kansas, in 2007. He said at that time there were 24 suitcase nukes in the hands of terrorists in America and 37 surface to air missiles. Pakistan and the old Soviet Union are likely sources of the suitcase nukes. The lecture is called, "Terrorism Esposed by a Retired FBI Chief".
18. sorry folks but the God I know has already overcome
DANNY, not afraid ,   in America   (12.19.10)
death and the grave, so what if America gets leveled (not likely) we win! My personal hope is America's fall is via the rapture. But you nuts will still be here after that won't you? I have no hope in anything this rivkah says, nor should you but put your hope in every word that comes from the mouth of God. Too many not spiritual words and ideas coming from this loon. Metal coat your house? How about give your life to God? that is a cure all to fulfill all ills. Why would anybody believe that terrorist have suitcase Nukes hidden in America? Fear mongering.... All this rivkah has is a computer and a clouded mind. Run for your life. Will everything God has said will come to pass, come to pass? yes!, can you or I screw it up? No!. Why listen to codes when you can hear God's word for yourself, without the mystery and wrong guesses. "all of my sheep hear my voice and they follow me" no code there just facts folks. Rivkah teaches another god...
19. # 14 "she is not in a cult?" either is tom cruise.
wake up people   (12.19.10)
20. Re 16 Rivkah
Galut ,   Selah   (12.19.10)
though Ted Gunderson brings out some interesting points...much of the 911 theory he developes is countered by tons of eyewitness accounts....as for the suitcase bombs...I've seen stories on those pro and con ...I haven't been able to completly rule them out... but the ones in question are the ones that russia lost track of when the soviet union brokeup. I have a background in Electronics and I know over time some Electronic components change value significantly and in the vicinity of radiation that is accelerated even in the best of components.... so after this amount of time any electronic package associated with the suitcasebombs would be very questionable. Lets pray that what you bring out is nothing but an inflated conspiricy theory... because if it isn't would be a very nasty nightmare
21. 20 Galut, Selah: It is true that nukes have to be
Rivkah   (12.19.10)
maintained and lose their effectiveness after a certain number of years. The Soviet nukes that were sold on the Black Market are probably obsolete or deplenished of active usefulness. But Saudi Arabia financed Pakistan's nuclear weapons program and that is a more likely source. Saudi Arabia certainly has nuclear weapons from Pakistan since they paid for the production of them. I don't think Ted Gunderson would present conspiracy theories. He knows or he doesn't guess. Paul Williams, a consultant to the FBI, wrote a book about the Muslim threats to America and the West and said Ph.D. Muslim nuclear scientists at universities in Canada and America are stealing plutonium 210 and yellow cake uranium and putting it into water supplies across the USA. 24 wells in Reno, Nevada, tested positive for plutonium-210 as did wells in Fallon, Nevada, and Boulder, Colorado and elsewhere when tested for that. Ted Gunderson said there was a window of opportunity to intercept the 24 suitcase nukes and 37 surface to air missiles that was missed by the FBI which was very upsetting. On 9/11, Gunderson said there were explosives on the floors that were detonated and that there had to be a coverup. He also said a missile went into the Pentagon not an airliner and that the planes that hit the WTC towers were not commercila airliners but military aircraft painted to look like commercial aircraft. Where are the passengers and the actual planes? Probably in the ocean. Remote control takeover of a flight is possible without manual over-ride to stop that and that is probably what happened. The mafia needed US troops in Afganistan for the same reason they were in Viet Nam: to protect the poppy fields and drug trade. When the Taliban controlled Afganistan, they banned growing opium poppies and business suffered. Evangelist Hal Lindsey said the mafia controls the US Presidential voting machines and determines the outcomes of elections. McCain had a mafia connection from his wife's father and Obama was thick with the mafia in Chicago. Governments will be righteous when the Jewish Messiah comes to establish that on the earth. Until then, there will be darkness in high places since Satan is behind the scenes in many places.
22. Re #21
Galut ,   Selah   (12.20.10)
Pakistan is certianly a concern... but I'm not sure they have the technical capability to miniturize an atomic bomb to fit in a suitcase... I don't think we can place any trust that Pakistan is in our camp ... it appears they are ridding the fence...
23. 22 Galut, Selah: You have an electronics background.
Rivkah   (12.20.10)
I don't. I just depend on speakers who claim to have certain information who are credible in other ways to depend on. The Prophecy Club of Topeka, Kansas, has a lot of retired military and government officials who speak to people who are interested in prophecy in the Scriptures and how current events are falling into place. Pray for peace in Jerusalem because if there is peace in Jerusalem there will be peace in the world. If enough people pray about something, YHWH is bound to listen and consider delaying events. He has delayed the Russian attack on America for 12 years now and many other things. Former KGB Colonel Stanislav Lunev defected and said Russia planned to attack America in 1998 bud the attack had to be delayed because Hurricane Mitch destroyed the Russian heavy armor and equipment in limestone caves in Mexico. There are so many ELS Torah code and surface text Scripture prophecies that I throw out to the public on YNET and emailing prayer partners about to see if YHWH listens to the appeals for delays in judgments. He has listened many times and delayed judgments many times. I do see results but people don't see delays in prophetic events as that. They see it as false alarms. Jonah warned Ninevah and they repented and God delayed the judgment forty years. It can be done. God rules and he can delay the terrible things that are coming on the earth.
24. Re#23
Galut ,   Selah   (12.20.10)
Yes I have a strong background in Electronics 3 years in the Army and a 4 year navy shipyard apprenticeship in electronics . ---- yes God does delay sometimes when his people pray .... but his patience will not last forever because torah codes are at this moment an in-exact science ..its predictive capacitcy may not be necesarly reliable ... I am sure once the lord comes we will see its true accurcey.... and on many levels
25. 24 Galut, Selah: There are standards for ELS Torah code
Rivkah   (12.20.10)
studies such as the standards at www.biblecodedigest.com that show some ELS Torah codes are unlikely to be accurate while others that follow the standards are quite accurate. I go to reputable websites for information. Amos the Prophet said God would do nothing except He tells His servants the Prophets. So there are prophets alive today and finding them to get information about YHWH's coming actions is important to me. I sift through a lot of information and the people claiming to be prophets or who research ELS Torah codes have to have interpretations that are consistent with Scriptures. If such a person ever said sodomy is all right with YHWH, for instance, I would know immediately the person is a false prophet. If the person says it if all right to eat pork and other unclean foods if you pray over it to make it clean, that is an indication the person is not speaking for YHWH. If the person has a first day of the week Sabbath, that is another indication the person is not speaking for YHWH since if he/she cannot believe what Scriptures say about the Shabbat, I cannot believe what they claim YHWH says to them.
26. Re:25 ELS
Galut ,   Selah   (12.20.10)
I have attempted to use a ELS program (Bible code Oracle) a year or so ago. I found that my lack of knowledge of the greek and hebrew limited my ability to effeciently use the program... I firmly believe it has value - particularly in events that have already happened - but to use it like a crystal ball ...my standard ,much like you shared, must meet the same standard that a bibical prophet must meet. I think ELS bible codes will be among the tools that will open the door for many in the jewish faith...but God in his timing will shine the light on those Jews that are ready to see it.
27. Rivkah you are missing the foundation to Knowledge of God
DANNY ,   America   (12.21.10)
To Know him. To hear his voice, and read his word. You are way off base because God speaks to all of his followers and they have no need for anyone to teach them, because God himself teaches them. You need to find God and quite worrying about knowing the future, because you will be left outside anyway. God has proclaimed a sabbath which you do not know, it is a Sabbath rest for all the people of God. A rest from works. You seek to teach but have no true Knowledge, because you do not know God. You seem to have a few fans but when He returns he will say "fans are nice, but I never knew you. Away from me you non-believer". You know you are not jewish nor really a Christian but have become snared in a cult that teaches falsehood about righteousness and Faith and works. what do you say we talk? DANNY
28. 27 Danny, America: You speak with words without wisdom to
Rivkah   (12.21.10)
falsely accuse me of not knowing YHWH. That is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in me, a sin YHWH cannot forgive. Yes, God has a voice but he speaks twice while Satan imitating God's voice speaks once. Which is it you hear? God's voice or Satan's voice to be so unconcerned about the coming events on the earth that people should be warned about? Luke said to watch and pray that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass. How can you watch if you don't follow the events prophesied in Scripture and connect them to what is happening in current events? You want people to be cause unawares which is not God's intention at all for His people. Amos the Prophet said God will do nothing except He first tells His servants the Prophets. God wants His people to know what he is doing and about to do. If people don't have a clue, they may not repent and will perish with the masses instead of being protected under the wings of God. I certainly am Jewish in my heart which is what all true believers must be to enter God's eternal Kingdom. I have Jewish ancestry and my mother belonged to a Messianic Jewish Congregation, Beth Sar Shalom.
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