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Clinton a danger to Israel
Moshe Dann
Published: 18.12.10, 18:03
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1. Why are you so surpised ?
Neil Turner ,   Watford, UK   (12.18.10)
I think it is time the people of Israel came out of denial. Obama / Clinton are not your friends. The US, EU, motivated by a new spirit of secular humanism, do not recognise Israel's Biblical and historical right to the land However, fear not, for your God is with you. He is faithful even when you are faithless. He always keeps His promises
2. Clinton has been pro-Palistine anti-Israel for years
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (12.18.10)
Do you remember when Clinton got in front of the press when Mrs. Arafat accused Israel of trying to poison Palestinians? Or the fact that the current negotiations are not happening because Mrs. Clinton made settlements the key factor (it was not Obama or Abbas)? Hilary has been pro-Palestinian long before she kissed Arafat why would we expect better of her now?
3. We have been saying this for 2 years
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.18.10)
This administration is determined to destroy the State of Israel.
4. Wait two years and no more Cintons.
Nora Tel Aviv   (12.18.10)
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5. Jordans King-to-be...A "Palestinian. 78% of the land of Pale
Jae ,   Lynn US   (12.18.10)
Palestine (the mandate of Palestine( is in Jordan. Making Israel 8 miles wide is suicide! Just say No to Drugs! ............ Right Obama?
6. Israelis have short memory.
OnTheOtherSide ,   USA   (12.18.10)
Doesn't anyone in Israel remember Hilarious Clinton and Suha Arafat spectacle when Bill Clinton was president and they visited Israel? The Clintons are opportunists and will stoop down at nothing to achieve what they want, Fame and Money. Why would Israel trust the Obama/Osama Clinton pair of self serving egomaniacs?
7. Why wait....?
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.18.10)
"wait 2 more years, no more Clintons" Two more years and there may be no more Israel... Why does anyone think it's so improbable? As the saying goes: before the fat one gets to be thin, the thin one dies. We are the thinner of the two.....US can wait for their Messiah, we cannot afford to (he's always late, the poor sod)
8. Clinton a danger to Israel
Syd Chaden ,   Palermo CA USA   (12.18.10)
The horrifying aspect of Clinton's statements is not that she totally ignores Israel's identity and security concerns. It is that the overwhelming majority of American Jews support her.
9. I would expect of Clinton (and Obama!!) to...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.18.10)
...begin pronouncing the concept of "two-states for two-peoples" as a sign that she (and Obama!!!) actually accept the right of Israel to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and that based on historic, ethical and legal grounds (none of which has anything to do with the Jewish Holocaust, incidentally/!!). I would also expect Clinton (and Obama!!) to demand of the Muslim-Arabs to state clearly and directly their acceptance of Israel's legitimacy, its RIGHT to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and to do so in Arabic, Hebrew and English. In the absence of meeting these two simple points I, as so many Jews, within and without the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel , question where Clinton's heart and mind are, as much as we question where Obama's heart and mind are!!
10. I am yet to hear Clinton or her boss being critical of...
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.18.10)
...the PA for keeping in their law books the prohibition to sell real estate to Jews, only because they are Jewish. Worse, a person selling real estate to Jews is punishable by death. Too many Arabs have been killed in the Palestinian Authority for having sold real estate to Jews, only because they are Jewish. But both the White House and the State Department have been silent..., despite the fact that both are headed by "liberal" politicians, ones who promote "human rights"...
11. worst part is she may be a future president
zionist forever   (12.18.10)
Israel has to worry about Clinton possibly even more than Obama because she is no friend of Israel anymore than her boss is but she also has a very good chance at getting elected if nominated. Not just Democrats but alot of swing voters love her because she has the Clinton name and of course the feminists would love to see a woman president. If the Democrats manage to talk Obama not to stand in 2012 she will be the candidate. If Obama runs in 2012 with her as a vice president running mate it might just get him the swing voters to bring him back for a second term and then she will probably stand herself in 2016.
12. Time to Up Clinton & Obama Security
Mark of Lewiston ,   Lewiston USA   (12.18.10)
With Op-ed pieces like this, it is time to increase her Secret Service detail, double or triple. Neither she nor Obama should go the way of Yitzhak Rabin.
13. If the dispute was territorial
Leolo   (12.18.10)
Moshe Dann presents nothing constructive only puts forward that the whole non Jewish world is evil and threatening and must be (violently) fought. He claims the struggle has nothing to do with territory but insists that what Israel is doing in the Occupied West Bank - the taking of Palestinian lands and giving it to Israeli ultra nationalist is fine - the logic of insisting on taking the Palestinians land by the state of Israel and then giving the land to Israeli Jewish settlers with subsidies over the objections of the Palestinians who owned the land and claiming that there are no territoial disputes is evil self justification. But besides all this just what do these Jewish fundamentalist really want - what are they saying besides the Palestinians don't want peace so we must take all their land ( it will take some time but we will get there) and we must pass laws so the non Jews in the Occupied territories will never be citizens and are distributed in 'prefered community patterns' (far from Jews and modern infrastructure). Clearly Israelis believe that if they have been able to expand into the Occupied West Bank for over 40 years and have 42% of the land on the Israeli land ministry listed as settlement blocks that another 40 years and the take over will be complete - maybe so and the Israelis believe that the Palestinians living under occupation or non Jews living in Israel can either live to serve the "Jewish Democratic" (theocratic) state of Israel or leave. Maybe you win but win what - except for some talk about the chosen people - Israeli culture has been passed by and holds nothing for mankind - Maybe the ultra nationalists are like an echo from a long ago collapse.....
14. Clinton is not the problem
David ,   USA/Israel/Egypt   (12.18.10)
The majority of the American Jews who voted for Obama/Clinton are the ones. Let's not point fingers and take responsibility for our actions. But on the other hand it will be very difficult for the many Jews working for Obama and his circle to quit. One of them from the White house did Let's hope the others will follow suite
15. Make up your mind!!
Ussishkin ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (12.18.10)
Either we are the most powerful regional military power or we're not. If not then we have every reason for this paranoia. If we are then we've only ourselves to blame for our lousy relations with our neighbours - no one else and definitely not Hilary. You might as well point a finger at Sara Netanyahu or Limor Livnat or even, bless, Tzippileh.
16. #7 Actually He will be right on time, not late or early
Brother Joe ,   Bay Parkway   (12.18.10)
17. Another Right Wing Fool
The Smart Guy ,   NYC, NY   (12.18.10)
I am amazed at the stupidity of this author along with the agreeable talkbacks. Ask yourselves just one question. How long do you really think Israel is going to maintain the status quo? If it continues to try, it will disappear inside of 20 years and you all know it.
18. security concerns
Matt   (12.18.10)
When Israel talk about security concerns they speak of being surrounded by nations whose population are hostile to their existence. Leaderships that would prefer for Israel not to exist. Nations see Iran as more of a threat than Iran, but that does not mean they do not support the removal of the State of Israel from the Middle East. Nations deal with Israel both overtly and covertly because they are there, they are a force of power in the Middle East, after efforts to evict the Jews from Israel by military action failed, Israel is a reality and thus must be engaged diplomatically. Iran was shocked by the WikiLeaks cables from Arabs States, which is why Mottaki was sacked and the Arab outreach has started. For the Arabs they have been caught out with their statements so they seek to reach out to Iran to remove the threat of Iran destabilizing their Kingdoms. While the Arabs do support the removal of Jews from the Middle East they see Iran as more of an immediate threat. Iran will try to convince them that Israel is the threat, nuclear weapons, Palestine and that Iran does not seek nuclear weapons. Iran seek to encircle Israel with enemies, joining the Arabs to Syria, Lebanon and they start a war via Hizbullah and Hamas and draw them all in against Israel, under the Iranian nuclear umbrella, this can be seen with Lebanon's stance on Israel. As the strategic and geopolitical balance shifts, in increases the threat to Israel. If Israel was on the verge of losing a war would Jordan and other Arabs states join in for the final push, Mazen as already said to the Arabs when you are ready we are ready to use force. The supply of weapons to Arab states via the US gives America some control over that and a counter to Iranian intentions. The real problem for Iran is Egypt, the crackdown on democracy in Egypt is due to the threat from Iran and Iranian interference, Hizbullah cells, support for El-Baradei, support for the Muslim Brotherhood, an Iran base in Gaza run by an Iranian proxy Hamas. Egypt faces a larger threat from Iran than other Arab states due to their strategic geography, the Suez Canal, Iran has tried as seen in Yemen due to the Gulf of Aden, tried to control maritime chock points to go with their control of the Straits of Hormuz.
19. Yes, call a spade a latrine digging instrument. It is
Bernie ,   Erehwon, USA   (12.18.10)
20. #17 nycguy
Alexander ,   NJ USA/Israel   (12.18.10)
This is the land of the Jewish people. When we were exiled by the Romans we did not give up our rights to our land and we are certainly not about to give those rights up now. This is not a fight over territory it is a fight for our rights. This land belongs to us.
21. Just the product of decades of Palestinian propaganda
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (12.18.10)
50 years ago the Palestinians were a non-entity and the conflict was known as the Israeli-Arab conflict. Then the propagandists and hired media experts got to work and created the "Palestinians". 70 years ago, when the press referred to the "Palestinians" they were talking about the Jews. There was no country called "Palestine", never was, but now there will be because of an excellent combination of terrorism, bribery, fraud, and propaganda. Clinton is just another fish hooked by the worldwide Palestinian propaganda machine. It's heavily funded and hires top notch propagandists who work virtually unopposed to promote the eradication of Israel.
22. Time to end US dominance over Israeli govt and institutions
Marcella   (12.18.10)
Since 2008, US officials have been allowed to go around the Israeli PM and defense minister and persuade the army chiefs there was no need of military action against Iran's nuclear sites and Hizballah's buildup of Iranian weaponry. During 2009 and early 2010, hardly a week went by without high-ranking US bureaucrats and generals touching down in Israel and going straight into nonstop meetings with IDF officers. Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, visited Israel during this period more often than any country in the world other than Pakistan - or even US forces scattered around the world. (Debka report) ~~~~~~~~~~ We're all familiar with the heavy pro-Arab activism being carried out by US consular officials, but the above is another example of the brazen openness, directness and sheer arrogance with which the US micromanages Israel, by going over the head of elected officials and stomping all over Israeli dignity, democracy and self-determination.
23. Dangerous
bob ,   tel aviv   (12.18.10)
Clinton is a dangerous woman-who will sell Israel right into the Mediterranean Sea. With regard to Israel she and Obama are in complete agreemnt about delegitimizing Israel
24. GOOD MORNING!
stone ,   jerusalem   (12.19.10)
The world is losing patience with Israel, because Israel is withdrawing into itself in fear and aggression. If and when Israel gets a leader who REALLY believes that peace with the Palestinians and surrounding Arab countires is the best way to assure the long term health of Israel - only then will the world start to relate to Israel as a nation that wants to be a part of the community of nations.
25. Hillary Clinton - Danger
Boris Yasdnilkov ,   Fernandina Beach, US   (12.19.10)
Friends, while Hillary Clinton has been a danger to the United States far longer than she has to Israel, you have my deepest sympathy for her involvement in your nation's affairs.
26. The time will come
Erudite ,   Australia   (12.19.10)
When Europe and America will ethnic cleanse its land of all its. muhammedans after fire and brimstone shall rain upon it. Israel will sweep through its land and banish the moon cult Interlopers from its borders and destroy the false structure on the Temple Mount. It is what it is and will be what will be
27. Tired of All the Worlds HATERS.
iObserver ,   US-Israel   (12.19.10)
The whole world seems to hate the Jews, no matter what we do. Israel should become one giant, self sufficient nation and ignore the rest of the planet of haters. Just stand by the ready to annihilate our enemies. The truth is, there's not a damn thing we can do to be accepted anywhere, even acting like a non-Jew doesn't matter: the world simply loves to hate us. And that would be the majority today since "generation Jack@$$ has taken over. What a cesspool of animals we live in.
28. Pure nonsense!
David ,   Haifa   (12.19.10)
Delusional article that pull all the psychos out of their caves. Truth of the matter is during the Obama and Clinton term, the cooperation, coordination and above all the numbers of US aid to Israel have just increased. It is unfortunate that ynet gives a platform to such unsubstantiated and slanted reporting. I am all for freedom of speech but this is pure hateful incitement. The educated and those who follow current affairs are immune from such venom but many of us are just not informed and fall trap to such incitement. It is the publisher responsibility to avoid such reporting.
29. Like her husband.....
Shalom U.S.A. ,   U.S.A.   (12.19.10)
A well know fact for everybody with an average IQ. Except, or course, for the so called american jewish "elite" who reads the NY Times and its Tom Friedman.
30. Mark #12
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (12.19.10)
That would be a waste of money.
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