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Stabbing victim 'found God' in Israel
Roi Mandel
Published: 20.12.10, 14:14
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61. Brian@#10
Wade ,   NYC USA   (12.20.10)
The only appropriate comments are expressions of outrage that an innocent women was brutally slain and the second wounded. Discussions of missionary activity should not be entertained while the wounds are fresh and the blood is crying out from the ground. There is a time for debating the question of Christian missionaries in Israel and a time and forum for which such issues should be off limits. Decency suggests that these talkbacks should decry terrorist attacks.
62. #58... you condone murder?
Erin ,   USA   (12.20.10)
So am I correct in saying that, according to your comments, she was deserving of murder? You and #1 seem to imply this. Once again, so much for Israel being a "light to the nations". If people would actually read the Tenakh instead of listening to certain rabbis who have an agenda against Gentiles, Israel would be stronger. Remember, "a house divided against itself cannot stand". Your hatred is appalling to HaShem.
63. #40 I would love to know...
Brian ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.20.10)
...what your definition of a "Zionist" is. I'm a Zionist, which is why I made Aliyah, you I would guess are not.
64. #58 moran galut
Morag   (12.20.10)
..... even in america they have to respect other religions..... so, pray tell me, since when was a law passed (under muslim obama, I presume) that ALL religions shoud be respected. Have I missed something?
65. To: Brian at No. 57
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.20.10)
You're preaching to the choir, honey. I submitted a reply to the post at No. 53 which raises most of the points you brought up. I hope YNet publishes it.
66. #8 what would you know about love all you know is hate
rachel ,   usa   (12.20.10)
67. To Brian #63
Erin ,   USA   (12.20.10)
I lived in Israel for 3 years until anti-missionaries from YadL'Achim attempted the murder of my Israeli Fiance and I... simply because I was a Gentile who loved Israel (a zionist), they chose to label me a missionary and both my fiance (now my husband) had to flee Israel. My fiance was working in the Yasam Police Unit, which was also enough for the anti-missionaries to go after us. Does that answer your question?
68. #31 no one is mad at you ...no one cares about you
rachel ,   usa   (12.20.10)
Do you think you are the center of attention .your delusional
69. We have lost our way.
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (12.20.10)
There are many talkbacks that I agree with, too many to list, but not nearly as many as there should have been. #61 Wade is the most recent of what the world should expect from Jews. Most of the other talkbacks, those that don't mourn the death of another human being, are disgraceful.
70. With "friends" like these...
moriah ,   sacto calif   (12.20.10)
These people came to our shul in N Calif Jewish community. They were dressed like MO Jews but they were clueless in shul. At seudot shlishit I kept thinking something wasn't right with them. I was trying not to be judgmental but I thought - they don't seem Jewish. After Havdalah the shul prez introduced a group of us women to them saying they would be coming to shul and that currently they attend BEIT YESHUA. My hair went up an I asked why do you want to come here? Who will you be praying to? I told them they couldn't come here and pray to cheezus. They were speechless. Needless to say they never came back. We have to be blunt with them. They are laying traps for our people in order to steal their souls.
71. Converting Jews to Christianity is loving the Jewish people?
Yaniv ,   Israel   (12.20.10)
72. # 68
(12.20.10)
Mouth like a sewer be quiet.
73. to#64
moron ,   galut   (12.20.10)
on the mayflwer they signed a 'tolerance act'-it was the first law ever passed in the new world so catholics for example had to respect evangelicals--like it or not!
74. #3 Matty Groves Hmmm, I hadn't realized
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (12.20.10)
that you had any sort of direct info from our Mistarah ? The only impression that would be available to you, would be what we all read or saw in the media Maybe & suppositions is all you have to go on The Police check all possibilites, that's their job
75. Muffy, grow up and learn to read. I do not condone murder so
Rachel ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.20.10)
try not to put words in my mouth that I was neither stating nor thinking. By the way, I think Israel is proud of me. I gave up a cushy life to move here eight years ago so I wouldn't have to answer the door every time some stupid Seventh Day Adventist or Jehovah's Witness tried to interrupt my dinner. Go back to your tuffet. You are too young to be in an adult chat. With "friends" like you we don't need any enemies.
76. to #62--against murder except
moron ,   galut   (12.20.10)
self-defense--missionaries are trespassers and should be expelled by peaceful means ..if they keep forcing their way into the houses of israel they should expect rejection which apparently makes them feel important-like martyrs..better they convert other christians and leave jews alone if they 'love' them so much--we know about your beliefs and reject them wholesale-go away!
77. I am against murder,
Elazar ,   Israel   (12.20.10)
but I am also against missionaries taking away Jewish souls. That is murder too. It wasn't right that this woman was stabbed to death. I am also against letting missionaries make aliyah.
78. Andy #30 is a warthog - Don't come to Israel, please!
Haifa   (12.20.10)
Enough fanatics and lunatics here already...enjoy your life in Florida.
79. #69 we who? The Brooklynites?
Brian ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.20.10)
This is a forum for discussing the news, not a funeral, yes it is tragic, and horrible. People are murdered every day, now you and wade can go on every news story of this type on every news source and write your heart felt messages, go ahead, there is no point to either of the hollier than thou postings. We are discussing the news idiot, if your so worried about being Jewish, well mabye you didn't get the memo, Israel is back, are you going to join us here, or is that what you meant by lost, you were on your way but made a wrong turn and ended up in Brooklyn, Everyone seems to me able to find the place, Missionaries, Africans, Russians, Asians. Just not Jews like you buddy, believe me, we may be lost soon, if so it will because instead of the diaspora returning home, idiots like you decided to stay in Brooklyn, and once in awhile post their grand Jewish thoughts on The JP! Awesome, and thanks for Obama.
80. Jews are allowed to tread on the 15% Palestine
Ziggy   (12.20.10)
within "green line"--50% step aside and you are dead
81. #69 Brian
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (12.21.10)
1. "We" means Jews. 2. I lived in Jerusalem for 4 yrs; was in Tsahal as a shlav-betnik. 3. Your post does not make sense; it is nothing but a rant. Many posts seem to say this woman deserved it. The "holier than thou" postings are in response to these and to say no, she did not 'deserve it', regardless of her beliefs. I am glad you agree, as you say "yes it is tragic and horrible". Many others seem not to agree with us. This is also part of the news.
82. Previous post should have been re: #79 Brian
Solomon ,   Bklyn   (12.21.10)
Previous post should have been re: #79 Brian.
83. Stabbings...
Froike ,   Brooklyn NY   (12.20.10)
No matter who or what they were doing, the murder was an abominable attrocious act committed by blood thirsty animals!
84. To Salma- does you husband ever let out of the basement?
Nick Sporek ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.21.10)
just asking.
85. Brian 57
Scott ,   Haifa   (12.20.10)
Hearing you talk of others with different beliefs than yours reminds me of what they said of the Jews in my father's generation: 1. They have no right to be here. 2. They have no right to be here among us. 3. They have no right to work here among us. 4. They have no right to live. Am I misreading you? I hope so.
86. #57
Brian ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.21.10)
First of all, they still say that about Jews, and you are miss reading me, I have nothing against any religion and friends of just about every religion , what I am angry about is the missionaries, and others coming here under false pretense(claiming they are Jewish), than doing missionary work, also certain groups of this nature, such as Jews for Jesus and others claiming they are Jewish when they are Christians with an Agenda, and Hijaking our culture, it is way out of control, and disgusting, maybe you have not come in contact with them, I have more than once, they are nasty, nasty people, they need to stay the help out, any one of any religion can visit or live here just fine, but the one's with this overt agenda and deceitful methods need to be stopped. The two women were involved with exactly what I am speaking of, wait and see, it has nothing to do with the fact they were attacked, that was just random Arab violence, a soldier was just attacked in the same area too. The story of what happened and the story of who these women are and what they were up to are two different things all together, because they were horribly attacked, people are not being honest about who they were and what they were up to. Wait and see, I did some research, when the story broke, I have had some experiences with missionary types and was suspicious.
87.  that's the price of love.
alberto ,   florida, usa   (12.21.10)
to #8 Salma why you don’t go with ala… There is virgins waiting for you….
88. Jews that are dubious about Christian motives
Alexander ,   NJ USA/Israel   (12.21.10)
Christians are Israel's biggest friends and the proselytization of Jews is abhorred. We don't agree with their tactics, but we can all agree that they have helped us out a lot and continue helping and supporting us abroad. They are like a second IDF for us and for that I will always be thankful to them. I think that some of the people on here need to focus more on learning Torah and teaching it to other Jews instead of worrying about who is trying to proselytize us. The best way to stop proselytization is through Torah study and education. The Torah is given to every Jew by God himself! It is the duty of a learned Torah Jew to teach something no matter how small or large it may be to another Jew that may not know it. At the end of the day Christians are the biggest Zionist and closest friends we have.
89. The woman who was murdered
bb(not that one) ,   USA   (12.21.10)
No missionary can convert a Jew who is strong in their faith, and secure in their identity. Our people have survived a millenia of torture proving this. As to this woman's brutal murder, no one deserves this, my thoughts are with her family.
90. Salma, we'd like you fine
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (12.21.10)
IF we didn't strongly suspect you to be a paid phony. Someone is giving you shekels under the table to be the token semi-acceptable "Palestinian".
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