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Published: 23.12.10, 08:31
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1. Lieberman has put his finger on the
Robert Haymond ,   Canada and Israel   (12.23.10)
problem. Israeli Arabs persist in demonizing the state of Israel while contributing very little to it. But once required to become part of the new stat of Palestine, as Mr. Liberman advocates, without having to be removed from their homes, they will protest in droves. And why is that? Because the advantages for them in terms of social, medical and educational benefits completely outweigh the advantages of being part of a new state. In other words, Arabs want all the advantages without making any of the concomittant sacrifices. This is the same kind of social welfare mentality which plagues many western nations. In a sense, it is not unlike teenagers who condemn their parents for not being allowed sufficient freedomand control over their own lives while residing under their parents' roofs and contributing nothing to the household. At any rate, Lieberman and Yisrael Beiteinu has,as usual, described the situation correctly and has offered a genuine solution. I worked for the party during the last election and will not be surprised if they become the leading facyion in the next.
2. Good one Lieberman.
John ,   Accra,Ghana   (12.23.10)
3. robert haymond very wrong
amir ,   YAFFA - PALESTINE   (12.23.10)
we are here before your parents brought to you to this life. take your socal, medical and educational advantages and shove it. donnot let the door hit you.
4. Lieberman must be the next president
Moses ,   Johannesburg, RSA   (12.23.10)
5. Liberman for Prime minister
Eran ,   Singapore   (12.23.10)
The lefties can also move to the PA
6. Thank you Mr. Lieberman. Honesty is a virtue
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (12.23.10)
Very few polititions have in Israel have it. Your truth and straight forwardness remind me of Rabbi Meir Kahane. Yashar Koach.
7. #3, Amir in "Filastin"
Joe ,   Los Angeles, USA   (12.23.10)
Thanks for proving Robert's points. Well done!
8. Lieberman is totally correct (end)
DT ,   TA Israel   (12.23.10)
9. This criminal should head back to Moldova
Nour ,   Palestine   (12.23.10)
Palestine belongs to Palestinians - and nobody else, bouncer boy.
10. 'Half of Arabs to move to PA'
Salma ,   Palestine   (12.23.10)
what about the other half? you would kill them ?!! Hey bouncer , learn this: "Israel" is not a nightclub ,It's Our Ancestors' Land, you occupy it so it is your duty to serve its people without complaining or waiting anything, remember one of us did not ask you to come here and steal our land , all your "advantages"are a little less of our rights not a charity from you . Moldavia awaits you Avi.
11. Minister Lieberman
Elizabeth   (12.23.10)
I said from the start that Lieberman would sort out the arab problem chop chop! and he will. I say he gets voted in as PM..... and just watch a lot of countries squirm and how fast the arabs will be packing their rucksacks!
12. Lieberman is NOT the most popular
gigi ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.23.10)
Most Israeli politicians are corrupt or self-serving. Lieberman is one of them. He doesn't speak for me, or for most Israelis I know. I agree that more effort should be made on all sides to integrate the Arab population, but we're a country with Jewish democratic values and we will stay that way. Arabs are just 20% of the population, and if we do the right thing they will cooperate with time and won't pose a threat to the Jews.
13. #1 - Totally Disagree
Tony James ,   Los Angeles   (12.23.10)
What kind of democracy solves problems by divesting itself of a large chunk of its population? This is a short-term solution, that will result in longer term issues, as the society shifts towards polarization and isolation. Perhaps Lieberman should understand that minorities, under effective democractic governancestructures, have rights that cannot be exploited by the majority. On the one hand he is talking about ahmedinejad like Hitler, and on the other hand he is proposing "solutions" that would result in the wholesale dislocation of people and families... hmmmm
14. #1 Well perhaps because we are treated as filth?
Muayyad ,   Palestine   (12.23.10)
You should put it and frame it in your head: We will not bow before you immigrants from Europe! This is our land, and the land of our forefathers. We reject your "Jewish State" simply because this is our land and as #3 said we've been here long before your grandparents were sperm. Have you asked yourself why Arabs are denied jobs in EL AL, and many other Israeli companies? Is it because we refuse to kill our fellow Palestinians, or fellow Arabs in neighboring states? You can continue to cheer for this deranged immigrant, but will not change the fact that we'll remain here in Akka, Yaffa, Lid, Ramleh, and Nazareth long after you're back in your countries of origin.
15. #14, Muayyad, but Palestine was not Arab very long time?
John ,   Europe   (12.23.10)
If I remember correctly, you lost Palestine long, long time ago, even before Napoleon (he finalized the nail). Then "your" land changed owners almost yearly. That is called, my friend, THE RIGHT OF THE OCCUPIERS BY CONQUEST. Israel is created because Britons and League of Nation gave us this land. NOT because of Torah - sorry, because by international law, a never proven entity (G-d) cannot give something. So, you have a problem, write it to Buckingham palace, on hands of the Queen. Oh, do not whine - ALL your territories you have today you get in OCCUPATIONS and CONQUESTS. As is the case in most of all countries.
16. 10 Salma, included in part of the half that goes!!
Avi the Bouncer ,   Moldavia   (12.23.10)
17. #14 and all you like them
frank ,   israel   (12.23.10)
your land? this is amazing, your land? and how do you get that? Let's consider, christians believe in Jesus. Fine, where was he born and lived...Nazarath, Bethlaham? Further all christians will agree that Jesus was a Jew. See where this is going? Where was islam when Jesus, the Jew as walking around over 2000 years ago??? Just a simple example to again try to put your myth, lie, call it whatever you want. You were not here 2000 years ago, you didn't even exist 2000 years ago. Think about it again, we can trace it back over 5000 years ago!!! Now even with your deep seated hatred can count! so again, how is it that you were here when you didn't even exist for another 3000 minimum years????? Tell me again how it is your land when you didn't exist! Your lies still cannot defeat facts!
18. For the record, Lieberman is not that popular
C   (12.23.10)
He has a facist way about him that scares many so he is not the most popular politician. However, he has a point that there are two nations living here. In a two state solution, it makes sense that Palestinians be governed by Palestinians and Israelis by Israelis. No one should ever be uprooted but being governed and a part of your people is a legitimate argument.
19. move borders
david ,   philadelpia, usa   (12.23.10)
I like the idea a lot. Move the border so that the arab minorities do not have to be part of the "zionist entity". I cannot understand why they would object. Stay in their houses but help build the country of palestine that they all dream of. If a typical arab dictator ran israel, or if abbas or arafat were suddenly in charge, I think they would have slaughtered the jews instead of talking about moving a border. . So let's not accuse avi of being a demon.
20. # 14
Yaron ,   Israel   (12.23.10)
We Jews were here before you evolved from the monkeys. You have no claim to this land Arab, go back to S.A. or Egypt, Syria and any other place you came from. You should beg us to be our slaves, because as our slaves you will have a better living standards then you would have in your ancestral country or that reservation that we are going to force you into and call a State.
21. To ynet Moderators
regular reader ,   Israel   (12.23.10)
Are you still asleep over there? You are allowing a lot of ad hominem bad language and general nastiness in the last few months. I though you were supposed to monitor talkbacks for offensive material. You certainly censored my responses in the summer, and they were factual notes, not personal attacks on other talkbackers.
22. Palestinians
Charles ,   London   (12.23.10)
Ladies and Gentlemen... it is very clear that if there is a something that the israeli arabs dislike more than jewish israelis its the looney palestinians on the other side of the wall. To be ruled by hamas and fatah is enough to make any israeli arab shiver. So clearly.. they will beg and petition to remain under israeli rule. I suggest every arab spends 1 week in hamastan and then see how they like it on the other side. And lastly... the land of israel belongs to the jews... its even written in the Koran and this book.. although i dont believe it... every muslim/arab does.... Its the sophisticated democracy of israel or hamas/fatah corruption and intimidation. mmmm tough choice.
23. Liberman haters are anarchists, leftys,
Rehavam ,   Israel   (12.23.10)
nazis, islamonazis, terrorists and lot of other antisemits. It's funny to watch you scream in hate.
24. To No 14 more than 65% of Israel Population is form the Midd
Ari ,   Romania-Israel   (12.23.10)
Is from the Middle East. Arab Jews that wer expelled from their countries were they were settled even before Islam Appear, even before you were considered being an sperm, like you say. During the 30 more than 350.000 Arabs from countries from the ME came to Palestine looking for work and to alter the balance of population. So many arabs here are as new comers as the Jews. Besides there was allways a Jewish presence in Palestine. Long before you wer a Sperm or your GRandfather for that matter even before your prophet was a sperm, Jews were the owner of the land and were expelled against their will by the Romans, we never renounce the right of return. So what you think is right for you is not right for me? Arabs in Israel that go their way and work like normal people are treated equal, I for instance have an Arab Dentist as my dentist, a good dentist, and he is working in a Kuppat Holim. As a mater of fact while arabs represent 20 of population in Israel, medical Arab staff represent maybe 35% of the Total Israeli Medical Staff. As for El Al I think you are wrong I am sure they have Israeli Arabs in their working force, maybe your curriculum was some what suspicious and that is why you were rejected as a threat to security. El Al cannot take any chances on security just for yr sake. WE even have Israeli ARabs sitting in Parliament bashing against the State of Israel. Would this could ever happen in an arab state. And you still talk of enaquality. If that is not democrazy then what is it? While 1.250.000 arabs are living in Israel and are full citizens Palestinian would not accept Jews living in Palestine . Isnt that Homophobic and racist? So better shut up Read what Abu Toame an Israeli Arab journalsit has to say on the subject. "I prefer to be a 2nd class citizen in Israel that a citizen of Palestine, even though here I am not tretaed as second class but as a normal person. Journalists in Palestine or any Arab Country dont have freedom" He also said Abbas is not to be trusted, he has a double speach. He said "I am not in Favor of Israel or of Palestine as a Journalist I am in favor of truth and Peace." When my comments are a little Harsh I get some censure by YNET. I hope this time they wont sensure this piece. Your comment was also as harsh as mine
25. Egypt!
Amir ,   Palestine   (12.23.10)
Yaron, your talk give nonsense. I think you came or kicked of Egypt and became a burden where ever you go. I think you must go to Egypt since you were there for awhile... stop chanting for the nasty slogans u and your country. Arab were here before even Judeusem ,p.s we beilive that we have right to cheer for Abraham (Ibrahim) , David (Daoud), Moses Mousa they are all prophets from G-d which your mankind denied them and were unfaithful people.
26. #14 20 millions of your beloved brothers
Raphael ,   Netanya   (12.23.10)
Moved to Europe during the last 50 years, as soon as their coubtry was independent, following the jewish and christian dhimmis they had ethnically cleansed: the bloodsucking muslims could not stay alone, they had to track their usual game. Were it not the jewish Israelis, who provide you with social benefits, education, health, life standard, equal justice, freedom of expression, you would long ago have emigrated towards western countries
27. IN FIRE AND WATER
Hertzel ,   Tveria   (12.23.10)
I WILL FOLLOW YOU AVIGDOR !!!!!!
28. Israel's most dangerous "politician"
Tomer ,   Hod Hasharon, Israel   (12.23.10)
"Every day, every week, you have another case of Israeli Arabs that are taking part in terrorist activity" and judging from the above remark he's apparently not averse to lying either.
29. Why are Arabs and lefties angry at him?
Yerushalmi ,   Jerusalem   (12.23.10)
They claim that they want what he wants to give them... So what is the problem then? Is it forced reality check? No more fantasies my dears...
30. Lieberman for PM
Jennifer ,   Melbourne   (12.23.10)
I think this man has it right.
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