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Refugees: We're not Israel's diseases
Roi Kais
Published: 24.12.10, 10:37
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1. Ynet use of the term ''infiltrator''
(12.24.10)
do other countries call illegal immigrants, (aka illegal aliens, overstayers) ''infiltrators'', or this another example of Israeli PR genius? An ''infiltrator'' is someone who penetrates enemy defences with hostile intent.
2. Israel Land of honey and Milk
Moshe ,   Haifa   (12.24.10)
Infiltrators, illegals, aliens, must leave this country! They are not welcome here! Their presence in Israel is a criminal act as they violated their visa ( legal entry) or the infiltrated our borders and are illegally in this country!
3. Hypocrites.
Tejas ,   India   (12.24.10)
These refugees are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Could they hold march like this in their own country? This is the perfect example of how to exploit democracy. Instead of crying here go back and do something better for your own countries. Govt. shouldn't even build the camp for them, just send them back. They will demand more and more. Even if we let them stay in Israel and they don't get any job they will accuse us of being racist.
4. Totally Right
Jew ,   Israel   (12.24.10)
REFUGEES do have rights, that's international law. Illegal infiltrators do not have rights in any country once they have been deemed illegal.
5. To: No. 1
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (12.24.10)
Wrong. An infiltrator is anyone who slips illegally from one point to another. Borders can be infiltrated. It does not have to imply "hostile" intent, merely an illegal one. We've got far worse descriptive terms for such infiltrators in the United States.
6. #3 right on it!
STEPHAN ,   YAFFO   (12.24.10)
7. Absurd
Reuven ,   Israel   (12.24.10)
What other country would ILLEGALS be allowed to protest, in effect, that they are legally entitled to be here. And BTW this has nothing to do with racism - a mere red herring.
8. Let us learn from our arab neighbours
Raphael ,   Netanya   (12.24.10)
They had a wise approach of the refugee issue: they dumped them in squalid camps without any employment possibilities, made the dependent on UN food stamps, provided them for 62 years with hate propaganda, military training, guns, transport facilities in order to disrupt life in Israel. Why not adapt this know how to put these same states who vowed to eradicate us in shambles thanks to african freedom fighters?
9. International law?
Robert ,   Brisbane, Australia   (12.24.10)
#4 " Illegal infiltrators do not have rights in any country" Yes they do! All people have rights. Countries that abide by UN conventions are duty bound to process refugees humanely even if they enter a country illegally.
10. DEPORTATION ORDER !!!
BENJAMIN ,   SINGAPORE   (12.24.10)
THESE IDIOTS ARE NOT REFUGEES BUT ADVANTAGE SEEKERS OF THE ISRAELI DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT ISRAEL IS THE ONLY DEMOCRATIC NATION AMONG THE ME THAT ARE ABLE TO HOUSE THEM. TEHE KIND OF ADVANTAGE TAKER ARE BECOMING A NUISANCE ! PLEASE DEPORT THEM ! THEY MAY GO TO OTHER NATIONS- LIKE THE ARAB SAUDI, JORDAN, SYRIA......BUT NOT HERE WITH US PLEASE. ISRAEL HAS DONE ENOUGH AND IN RETURN ALSO SUBJECTED TO DEFAMATIONS AND SLANDERS. ENOUGH ! DEPORT THEM- THESE ARE ECONOMIC REFUGESS ! BENJAMIN SINGAPORE
11. This was the Perfect Time...
Eli F. ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.24.10)
To round these "Refugee's" up and send them back to where they came from!! Where is the Government enforcement!!?? Now they are demanding that they "Have Rights"??!! Let the "Bleeding Hearts", Gal-On and Khenin adopt a few and bring them to their neighborhoods!!
12. Refugees
clive ,   london   (12.24.10)
Israel has foolishly allowed a Trojan horse within its midst. This should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Now they are paying the price and it will be expensive, whatever the solution..
13. No sharing on the european guilt.
bruno ,   portugal   (12.24.10)
What do these africans want more ? They got their independance from the european powers. When I lived in Africa, I always heard "white man, go home ! this is not your place !", even though I was born there. Likewise, Israel has the right to tell them to go home. It's not racist at all, it's just fair. Israel doesn't have to share on the european guilt. It's two different history books (europe and Israel).
14. #9 You're right
Jew ,   Israel   (12.24.10)
In this context, people are using the false assumption that these people are refugees which would imply a set of rights in any given nation. Whereas international laws on human rights apply everywhere, the need for a country to allow any sort of residential or employment rights to an illegal alien does not. I should have made that distinction as people tend to become overly heated about this topic in particular. You were right to call me on it.
15. Also Robert, perhaps you know about Australian Policy
Practice ,   what you preach   (12.24.10)
The government's current policy for dealing with asylum seekers who attempt to enter Australia without correct documentation is to detain them indefinitely (some over six years) in high security camps, either in remote mainland areas or on offshore islands such as Nauru, until their claims for refugee status can be verified. These measures - harsher than those of any other Western country - have been justified by the government on the basis that asylum seekers have 'jumped the queue', and that a tough approach is needed to discourage people smugglers, protect national security and stem the flow of 'illegal arrivals'. A major part of the policy involves only granting Temporary Protection Visas (or TPVs) to refugees, which limit their rights to education, social services, offshore travel and family reunion. When a TPV expires (normally after three years), the holder must re-apply and prove again that they are a 'genuine' refugee. TPV holders can be deported back to their country of origin any time. Another part of the policy is the 'Pacific Solution', which involves holding asylum seekers on remote islands and removing parts of Australia's territory from the migration Zone. The offshore camps, like those on the mainland, are run by private foreign-owned companies. Whether or not asylum seekers are found to be genuine refugees, they are 'billed' for the time they spend in detention. http://www.ruralaustraliansforrefugees.org.au/template.php3?area=facts&content=policy#1
16. DISAPPOINTED OF ISRAELLI STUPID POLITICIANS AND GOVERMENT
matt ,   galil   (12.24.10)
perhaps Israel has one of the most incapable goverments of the world! don't look at the success which was achieved in such short time for the country that has nothing to do with the freakin goverment in israel! thats a motivated nations achievment a nation that strives for its existense trought the ages! I'm sick of seeing this bastards even in my country to begin with !!! Dont we all know that everyone is fighting over this small peace of holly land! we have arabs that been living here and claming the land despite our every historical right as jews! Israel was given to Jews and was Promised to JEWISH NATION ONLY! Stop with the DEMOCRACY TERMINALOGY and take it elsewhere thats the Left & Anti Semetisim & anti Israel's Tool to destruy us! What's this goverment doing for heaven sake? every damn drap has to sneak to this country and start usuing the limited resourses! dont we have enough troble here already! Screw this incapable Goverment! I'm losing my hope I dont believe we can last for a long period of time with morons in power they only push us to self destruction! havin the issue of infiltaritors is worst than going to war with any enemy! this bastard came here withouth any resistance and are about to screw us BIG TIME! WAKE UP ISRAEL FIGHT WITH THIS CRAP!
17. For #15 and 9# (Robert)
Reuven ,   Israel   (12.24.10)
Robert in Australia, of all places! I'm glad that #15 has pointed out in detail far better than I could have done about Australia's extremely tough immigration policies to Robert. Robert could have done best by keeping his mouth shut.
18. Israel is so "racist" that illegals can demonstrate
aliza ,   Israel   (12.24.10)
in Tel Aviv. In Sydney, Australia no chance for illegal immigrants to protest in the city. They can only protest in the detention camps they are thrown into and their only method of protest is hunger strike or self harm. Netanyahu don't build detention centres and be in the same immoral position as Australia, send them back, after all most of these infiltrators are economic refugees.
19. In California, there Are 4m Illegals, So what!
Noah Lev ,   USAHollywood   (12.24.10)
In the 30s, thousands of German Jews sought refuge in the US and elsewhere. Eventually., no country allowed them or other Jews in. They were locked in..Europe, and also locked out. Only the concentration camps took them in gladly, while Jewish kapos did the killing (Auschwitz). They were considered vermin, roaches, scum..throughout the planet. Even some Jews didnt want them (USA) among the German communiity vs Polish. You get the point..Okay, so they are illegal...and black. So what! Israel again screws up. 30,000? In the USA, we have 11m They dont demonstrate, but have millions who support them openly and laws (Arizona).The Republican Party lost here in Calif.over the immigration issue. To Israel: build that fence..allow those already in Israel to stay. At least they want to be Israelis..work, serve in the army, etc. unlike some who I wont mention and decry a few Chanukah lights. What a schonda. What abject nonsense. No wonder the planet hates Israel. and is pushing for a Pales state with the right of return. Then what willl do cry to the 3rd world. They will say, "remember the 30,000".
20. Fiery Sudanase Islam on TA laptops
SudaneseIsaam ,   china and israel   (12.24.10)
Walking through the Bus station area in Tel Aviv a Sudanses has set up a corner clothing shop rented from an Israeli to draw customers he has set up a large and expensive lap top with live Sudanese Programs including fiery Islamic Sermons.Stupid Israelis
21. Who let the school children out to protest?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (12.24.10)
If illegals have rights, then so should murderers, thieves, rapists and child molesters.They are illegal,because they broke the law. Just as any criminal should be put in prison the same for these illegals.Let the school children know that we have rights as Israeli citizens not to drown in a sea of illegals. Just because no one took in Jewish refugees, we should not be required to take in illegals that entered our land.We took in and are taking in many of our own refugees along with plenty of fake Jews. Enough already. Whoever does not belong here, put them on a boat or plane and ship them back to where they came from. Instead of running away fight for your own freedom against tyranny.Although some of them abandoned their parents and wives and children and ran like the rats they are. What do we need them for?
22. misunderstand
tesfay ,   israel tel aviv   (12.24.10)
dear brothers,yes we are illegals because there is no legal escape.If some body comes to kill you with a gun and you are powerless,what could you do?would you wait until you get passport.The only option is runing away,life or death decision.
23. #22
Tejas ,   India   (12.24.10)
Who are the people killing you? Why are you holding rallies in Israel? And what about the others who are being killed there? . You ruin your own countries, fighting with with your own Africans and when situation get worse run away to other developed countries. And don't even live in these countries with peace. . You are the disgrace on entire mankind.
24. 22 other Islamic Countris Why Don't they Accept their Mulsim
Matt ,   Galil   (12.24.10)
why they dont accept thier beloved muslim brothers openly! Go to IRAN THEY ARE ALWAYS WELCOMING MUSLIM BROTHERS OR EVEN EGYPT OR ANY OTHER MUSLIM COUNTRY! LEAVE US ALONE ! ANY ISRAELI THAT SUPPORTS THIS BASTARDS IS CRIMINAL AND BETRAYER TO HIS PEOPLE ! WE ARE SICK OF THE LEFT WING TRYING TO USE EVRY DAMN TOOL TO ATTACK US AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OR COUNTRY AND PEOPLE!! SUDANI GO WHERE YOU BELONG WITH YOUR BROTHERS !! WE WILL THROW YOU OUT OF OUR LAND !
25. Sorry - Go Home !!
Andrew ,   Maimi,FL   (12.24.10)
you have a whole continent to make nice - go make it nice - Israel is too small - also - we know full well that you will cause crime and poverty - sorry - its your way - and you wont change it
26. last time the issue was turned from illegals to schoolchildr
zionist forever   (12.24.10)
Last time the government discussed the deportation of illegals interest groups that represented them turned it into an issue about children and & we forgot it was supposed to be about their illegal parents. They even drafted in the Holocaust survivors. who said a jewish state has no right to deport people. Now we are talking about a detention facility and its just a matter of time before the Holocaust survivors are drafted in and they start comparing the place to Aushwitz and start accusing the government of being Nazis. For once the government must stand strong, even when they start wearing yellow stars & dressing their children in IDF uniforms carrying banners saying I love Israel do not allow this serious matter to be hijacked by do gooders & illegals.
27. is it a joke ? they are ILLEGALS ! remember the LAW
(12.24.10)
28. Police
Jack ,   USA   (12.24.10)
The police should have arrested them when they were all there, it would have been convenient
29. Clever war on Jews.
Gabe Yakmore ,   Canada   (12.24.10)
30. Advice to Refugees
Brod ,   USA   (12.24.10)
Be grateful to Israel and don't chant and complain. Without Israel, you would all have been butchered by Arab Islamist-Jihadists and the forces of evil and tyranny who persecuted, ravaged, raped your women, and chased you out of your historic homeland in Africa. It is time you gain strength from Israel and return to liberate your historic homeland Sudan from the Arab Islamist-Jihadist occupiers. And to the others, to return and liberate your historic homeland from evil and tyranny.
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