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Rabbi's wife: Arabs are the enemy
Yair Altman
Published: 29.12.10, 17:46
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1. Racism isn't born it's taught
frank ,   usa   (12.29.10)
2. These are the women who rescue Israeli women from Arabs
rebecca ,   Modiin   (12.29.10)
These are the women who rescue Israeli women from Arab marriages. There are far too many Jewish women literally in Arab bondage. And not only Jewish women. Read the book " not without my children". These Rabbi's wives are talking from their everyday experiences with these naive women.
3. what a disgrace
eric ,   nyc, usa   (12.29.10)
Any sympathy the jewish people had after the atrocity of hitler is decreasing everyday when hypocritical jewish people use the same rascist hate speech that was used against them. How sad and disgraceful. The jews who believe this are no different than hitler.
4. Rebecca from Modiin, you are as disgusting as those women
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (12.29.10)
5. #3 go read #2
(12.29.10)
6. they are the enemy
yehuda avner ,   tel aviv   (12.29.10)
to think they are not our enemy is to be deluded and not waking up to the truth
7. #3
Jared ,   Toronto, Canada   (12.29.10)
Kind of silly to compare the ranting of Rebbetzins to Hitler. Thank g-d you're not sensationalizing a trivial article. What they said may not be palatable for most but it's an issue. While they should never have referred to Israeli Arabs as enemies they aren't wrong that it's a problem. This is not quite the same thing as Hitler and shame on you for making such a stupid comparison.
8. #2 Never without my daughter was about an iranian
Bannister ,   US   (12.29.10)
Not an arab. You can at least try to educate your self about some basics,before writing down the nonsense you wrote.
9. Let's notice that Jewish men do not date
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (12.29.10)
and marry Arab women. Why is that? Because Arab society won't allow it! Furthermore, let's keep in mind how Jewish women and their children are abused and imprisoned within Arab families once marriage and childbirth take place. Why are these socalled "liberals" not compassionate towards the young women who have mistakenly fallen into Arab hands while ranting on about "racism"? Well, it's typical. We'd have a good deal more respect for the non-Orthodox movements of Judaism if their adherents also fought for justice for Jews.
10. It goes for the boys too!
manicdrummer ,   Madison, WI, USA   (12.29.10)
Intermarriage is what has diluted the Jewish population around the world. There is hardly anyone left on the US who is of pure Jewish heritage. Of course, I'm a Reform Jew, but I would still marry a Jew over anyone else. And no one can give me a reason to do otherwise. No one!
11. yuck
dani   (12.29.10)
israeli society is fast regressing into a mix of eastern european nationalism and middle eastern tribalism. what a shame... herzl and ben gurion, and even jabotinsky, who were all educated people, would be rolling over in their graves. zionism is about a jewish state, but not about this petty racism. do you really think you can sustain a state when jews do not even say hello to arabs when they pass them on the street. disgusting.
12. it's catastrophic
Dov ,   toronto canada   (12.29.10)
This phenomenon with our Jewish young women being swallowed by Arabs is tragic and destructive, especially when the arab culture completely disregards women and their rights in general. These alarming figures are placing the Jewish people in great danger. Jews are a small number compared to the 300 millions plus racist arabs looming. Therefore I truly appreciate the measures being taken to safeguard our Jewish identity
13. Jewish men should date Arab girls - they don't whine as much
Scott ,   USA   (12.29.10)
14. Ho, Masorti ?
Yossef   (12.29.10)
I know very well masorti Jews from Jerusalem, how much of them are married with Arab women ? Answer: 0! I have more chance to marry an Arab woman myself than a (usually american) masorti Jew. Well, by the way, if she converts there is no problem. Actually I'd prefer marry an arab woman, they are good looking, sexy and more flexible than jewish women. Jewish women (and let's not talk about jewish mothers) are a curse :-)) Well, I'm kidding, hmmm... maybe not ;)
15. Appalling....
Rashid ,   Chicago, IL   (12.29.10)
This almost sounds like a precursor to Mein Kampf......
16. Intermarriage and Abuse
Moishe ,   U.S.A.   (12.29.10)
It's bad enough intermarriage is over 50% and most Jews would prefer a cultural as opposed to an observant Jewish lifestyle. When you add alot of abuse and forced conversions to Islam, you now create the seeds for Jewish Israel's physical destruction. While I support the Rebbetzins' position 100%, you have to look at reality. You cannot isolate every Jewish boy or girl from outside influences. The world will never sit idly by when you legislate or promote the separation of Jews from outside influences. Do most of the readers of this BLOG really care about Jewish spiritual genocide?
17. One More Thing...
Moishe ,   Frederick, U.S.A.   (12.29.10)
Why is it that Ahavas Yisrael is secondary to love of the enemy? I would not be upset if my stepsons married someone of a different ethnicity (African, Asian, etc.) as long as they were Jewish and loved Judaism as much as I do. I bet if you polled the Rebbetzin, they might be startled by contrasting ethnicities, but as long as the spouse was halachically Jewish, and promised to raise their kids in a traditional or Orthodox manner, they wouldn't be issuing letters forbidding a Chassana between them. I certainly have a way to go before my Middos and level of observance is comparable to the Rebbetzin.
18. Produce the evidence that this is a problem
Yitzhak ,   San Francisco USA   (12.29.10)
Yes, intermarriage is an issue that should be dealt with in a humane and understanding manner. Clearly, with only 14 million +/- Jews in the world, if every Jew were to intermarry, within two generations no Jews would remain. Antisemites would be overjoyed, but I don't live my life to please antisemites. On the other hand, simply stating that thee is a problem does not make it so. Who is keeping the statistics on intermarriage? On spousal abuse by Arab husbands of their Jewish wives? What, if any, criminal charges have been filed against the abusers? All of this information should be readily available for citation. Instead, all we are hearing is cries of "gevalt!" in a shrill and xenophobic tone.
19. dating arabs
jennifer ,   jerusalem, israel   (12.29.10)
The Rabbis' wives are correct in warning Jewish girls not to date arabs!!! After dating them, many end ukp marrying them and send up having absolutely miserable lives beyond description. Arabs are known for their charm, and for their abuse. BEWARE and BESMART!! Jewish Girls: Find a nice Jewish boy that you want to marry and build a good Jewish home! Don't abondon your people!! You will definitely be sorry about it!!These Rabbis' wives are to be commended for their concern for Am Yisroel!!
20. Correct message, wrong vehicle
Vered, Israel   (12.29.10)
The rabbis' wives have the right idea, but apparently like all Israelis, have a PR problem. How unfortunate that this was done in the form of an open letter, with their signatures, (too reminiscent of status conscious rabbis putting their John Hancock on this or that) as if seeing their names on a petition will matter one whit. "I know halacha already forbids it, but if Rebettzen So-and-So doesn't want me to date Mohammed - I'll break up tonight!" But who can deny the grave consequences that a Jew will pay when she moves to an village with a backward Arab cuture. It's not racism to say that Arab culture is backward. That ALL Arab and Muslim cultures dominate women, and that Arab men change the sweet-talking after you marry them. It's only racism to hate Arabs for no reason. We have plenty of reasons. So, the rabbi's wives should have continued working behind the scenes, finding better ways to get their message across, if more needs to be done. Also, the real problem is why on earth anyone who doesn't have to date an Arab would do so. Why are these girls so gullible? For anyone who calls me racist for making these blanket statements, I challenge them to cite one example of an Arab/Moslem dominant culture that doesn't dominate and abuse women, as the man's right. I don't hate Arabs, I wish they'd get their act together and succeed. But they are the world's most backward people, so why would an Israeli Jewish girl want to date them unless something is very wrong with her home life.
21. To #2 and #4
John DeLancy ,   Alaska, USA   (12.29.10)
Rebecca: very well said! Also, my wife read _Not Without My Daughter_, and it is amazing how similar the author's experiences were to what is reported today in Arab villages in Israel. Gregg: Rebecca said that the people who wrote this open letter are women who have rescued Jewish women from awful, abusive marriages. What part of that do you find disgusting?
22. Anyone who stops Jews marrying out has my vote
Alan ,   SA   (12.29.10)
23. <42% of the Israeli Jewish Population are of Arab Origin
A.Qirresh ,   Jerusalem   (12.29.10)
Why do media refer to Arab speaking population to ''Arabs'', while trying their best not to say Arab-Jews to the Mizrahim who actually do know Arabic and who are actually Arabs. You think Jews are unified. Ashkenazim actually don't like Mizrahim for one reason; racism. Israel is the most racist country worldwide, they all can't stand each other. A mizrahi Jew insults an Arab not knowing he's insulting himself. So .. Rabbi's wives, get a life. Your only enemy is the devil inside your souls. I advise you to cleanse your soul pure. You'll live a better life.
24. Talmud vs Koran and Jew vs Muslim...is it the same?
Michael ,   Orlando, FL   (12.29.10)
Some teachings of the Talmud: Non-Jews are Not Human Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men"). Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human, Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals. Shame, shame, shame, to both Jew and Muslims, and Arabs. Can't we all just get along? When two people find love, it is to be celebrated. And, I think God would agree we need more love in the crazy world.
25. Hysteria over nothing
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.29.10)
"Just like nazis!" "Precursor to another Holocaust!" Get a grip people. Jews have been opposed to interfaith marriage since the days of Shechem and Dina. When your grandmother told you not to date a non-Jew, was she being "just like a nazi"? Like I have said before, if Jewish women prefer to date Arabs, maybe Jewish men should ask themselves what makes the Arab men so attractive? Jewish men also ask yourself, what is so attractive about Chelsea Clinton? Hooray for Mark Mezvinsky, he has HIllary for a mother-in-law. Sux to be him.
26. Nothing to do with Hitler
Yaakov ,   USA   (12.29.10)
Exterminating millions of people is VERY VERY different than saying "don't marry outside the tribe." The fact that you think these are the same shows your dangerous distance from reality and logic.
27. Tzipi Hotovely is racist
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (12.29.10)
to imply that every jewish woman marrying an arab man is going to get abused is down right racist. Many jewish women get abused (even killed) by their jewish husband. If she truely wants to address domistic violence in Israel, she should call for a special session or propose new law
28. #23: Mizrahim are victims of Arab racism
Yitzhak ,   San Francisco USA   (12.29.10)
Sorry Qirrish, but you are getting this wrong. Perhaps two generations ago the Mizrahi Jews of Israel spoke Arabic, but now they speak Hebrew and many are married to Ashkeanzim. Once Mizrahim did speak Arabic, but it was Judea-Arabic, a Jewish dialect written in Hebrew letters. But, this once vibrant Jewish community was destroyed by Arab nationalists, with the support and urging of Palestinian Arab nationalists. Arab governments expelled, or otherwise pressured to leave, nearly one million Mizrahi Jews. These governments took all their property. If its true that Mizrahi Jews as a whole are more hostile to Arabs don't you think it may have something to do with the brutal manner in which they were treated by Arabs?
29. #24 demonstrates how a little knowledge can be dangerous
Yitzhak ,   San Francisco USA   (12.29.10)
We have to assume that #24 Michael gains his "knowledge" of Talmudic teachings from the internet, and most likely from sites not overly learned in Torah and Talmud, to put it generously. I don't know if Michael knows the difference between the MIshna and Gemara, and how they together comprise the Talmud. Or, if he knows how many tractates there are of Talmud, and how many chapters. All basic stuff. But, he does seem to know what "the Talmud" teaches about non-Jews: "they are animals!" Well, no. Not at all and infact just the opposite. The passages he quotes are taken out of context and mistranslated -- does Michael know the languages of the Talmud (Hebrew, Aramaic, a little Greek)? Does he know the difference between the Talmudic concepts of "adam", "ben adam" and "ha-adam"? All could be mis-translated as "man" or "human" especially by modern Hebrew speakers. But, the Talmud's Hebrew is not modern Hebrew and has nuances absent from modern Hebrew. To Michael my only advice is: go and learn!
30. This should be explained furthur to avoid the rift"
Sojourner ,   Jerusalem   (12.29.10)
Anat Gofstein made a statement, "We engage in the girls' rehabilitatin after they emerge wounded and battered from the Arab villages." Would she be able to elaborate on this as to give the audience a better idea of what she's talking about? It seems like rather than saying Arab, she's meaning any non-Jew. Muslims pride themselves in taking care of their women and giving up their daughters for marriage as virgins. They also contend that their wives are treated with an extreme amount of love. And in the case that there would be a divorce, the wife is left with a certain amount of money. They make Islam sound like the way it suppose to be: no prostitutes, no whores, no child molesters or the law will get the perpetrators. Is this the difference between the Kingdom and the Wilderness or the Christ and the Evil one? What's happening to the daughters of Zion/ Fair Zion (two books, two phrases)?
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