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PM: I agreed to freeze, US didn't
Roni Sofer
Published: 03.01.11, 13:17
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31. Bibi's promises???
Seppo ,   Finland   (01.03.11)
When making his first freeze Bibi PROMISED that no more. Now he is ready to make another freeze even if settlements are completely legal. Bibi KNOWS that they are legal. He should only prove to the world that they are legal. EU is still attacking on this. But Obama and Clinton confirm that they are legal. After this confession who can trust in Bibi's promises. Making peace with Abbas he needs to give everything what Abbas demands. Abbas will not make any concessions after Bibi repeatedly talks about his main target to make a peace. Good bye Jlem, wellcome refugees. For peace under these terms Abbas will add that before signing peace with Syria is also needed. Good bye Golan. Failure in any talks is clearly visible and there is nothing what Bibi can do about it. I don't believe that he is ready to capitulate.
32. To: Lippy at No. 26
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.03.11)
What happened is that the Obama administration recognized that the American people got a little tired of all the bowing and scraping being conducted by the United States towards the ersatz "Palestinians." Americans support Israel. Period. Full stop. If you think the November 2010 elections sent a message, wait until November 2012. The American people are going to send the phony in the White House packing, with his tail neatly tucked between his legs. I'm sure there are plenty of neighborhood organizer positions out there; that's about the extent of the experience that Obama has, anyway; not to mention ability. Presidential, he is not.
33. #30
Harold ,   USA   (01.03.11)
There was no state of Israel before 1948 either. There was no Kuwait, UAE, too before 1948. Super power countries can created any state they want. They created Israel in Palestine and can create The Palestinian State in Palestine. Wise-up and wake-up. Are you new on this planet??????????
34. #24 Nour Aini
Harold ,   USA   (01.03.11)
Well said and I enjoyed reading your comment.
35. Breaking news
US ,   USA   (01.03.11)
the WH just called him a liar he lied in 96 and he is lying now .
36. Why is Bibi the leader of Likud?
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.03.11)
What kind of strange hold does Bibi have over Likud? Bibi doesn't stand for Likud values, which are massive Jewish settlement and permanent retention of Judea and Samaria. Bibi backs down whenever any amount of pressure is applied against him by anyone. Nor can Bibi win elections. Bibi threw away a huge lead over Kadima in the last election to lose to it. He is doing the same now. The Israeli right is stronger than ever before but Likud is losing. Why is Bibi likud's leader? When will Likud stop tolerating Bibi's constant betrayal? Now can
37. We need to remove our enemies from office
jason white ,   afula,israel   (01.03.11)
We have to replace bibi, livni and peres. They are our worst enemies. They only care about themselves and their power. All politicians should be limited to two terms and their children, grandchildren and great grandchildren banned for life from politics.Politics should not become a life long career and we do not need dynasties!
38. Palestinian state, failed!!!!!!!!!!!
Lengualima ,   I   (01.03.11)
Palestinian state: We have nearly 46 years of hearing that theme. They tried to create it with wars, failed. With economic boycotts, failed. With maritime blockades, failed. with terrorist attacks such as Munich. failed. With aircraft hijacking and murder of passengers, failed. Using its overwhelming majority of UN power, failed. Next move, FAILURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
39. ISRAEL LUCKY TO HAVE MR NETANYAHU
Ian ,   ניוקאסטל אָן טיין   (01.03.11)
I don't know what all the moaning is about.The fact remains that,in the end,Mr Netanyahu gave away precisely nothing and left Israel's interests intact. He seems to have been a pretty smart operator and got out of what looked like an impossible situation and made two big gains: 1)he left the bully Obama so bruised that he'll think twice before trying to push Israel around again, 2)he exposed Abbas's and his cronies' position as being so intransigent and inflexible as to be recognised as unrealistic by the US administration.Abbas became so entrenched that he's trapped himself and destroyed his own credibility as a negotiator.Abbas and his cronies are yesterday's men still twitching.Good riddance to them. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
40. "Palestine" is no more real than Oz, Atlantis, Neverland.
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.03.11)
If Fayyad and Abbas declare "Palestine" statehood in November 2011, as they've threatened, it will be nothing new. It's been done before. The result is nil. Empty declarations do not make a state. Judea and Samaria have belonged to Jews for more than 3,500 years and always will. Soon we will have more than 1,000,000 Jews in Judea and Samaria. "Palestine" is no more real than Oz, Atlantis or Neverland. "Palestine" is simply a much less pleasant fantasy than the other three fictional places.
41. #32 Sarah Baby
Shlomo Kamera   (01.03.11)
Americans support Israel. What? 40%?? If you want Somalia, then go and take it Queen of Zion. Free, free Palestine. BDS.
42. The Truth is the Arabs Don't Want Peace
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (01.03.11)
Israel gave them a freeze, they waited till the end of the freeze, then the first issue was to ask for an extension of the freeze, what idiots. .Proof positive these guys don't want peace. For the Arabs it is just a PR blame game, and what the West doesn't get, is they will play it for next 100 years. What they hope for is public opinion to change at some point (in the Arabs favor), and that world pressure will force Israel to make a deal that is dangerous for Israel. Here in the U.S., so far, public opinion has always supported the Israeli's by a majority. We know the difference between goo and evil. Any lifestyle that preaches you go to heaven and get 72 virgins for killing innocent civilians is evil. Only in Europe do the suckers fall that crap.
43. Sarah dear they let you out? don't forget the pills honey...
Avi ,   TA   (01.03.11)
44. #43 Avi. Simple rhetoric from a simple mind.
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.03.11)
#43 Avi. There is an old adage that a fool should keep silent. Than people may think he is a fool. But if he speaks, he'll remove all doubt. Your one line put downs of Sarah's marvellously reasoned posts leave no room for doubt. Simple rhetoric from a simple mind. Keep up your puerile put downs, Avi. I know you will. Meanwhile, Sarah and others infinitely brighter than you, will continue to increase the level of debate about important issues.
45. #6. Most Israelis know Judea & Samaria are ours.
Chaim ,   Israel   (01.03.11)
#6. It takes the most cursory glance at a map to prove that Judea and Samaria are not only ours. They are necessary for Israel's security and survival. Without Judea and Samaria, our enemies could cut our Homeland in half with a liesurely three hour jaunt. Most Israelis know Judea and Samria are ours. Virtually no Israeli supports another racist anti-Jewish building freeze. Your post demonstrates a complete absense of self respect and Zionism.
46. Arabs and compromise
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (01.03.11)
Is kind of like Arabs and 'Palestine' they cannot spell or pronounce either.
47. There will never be a second "Palestinian"
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (01.03.11)
state in addition to Jordan and all the endless bla bla about freezes will not change anything... Abbas and Hussein Obama are losers and will disappear from the political stage more sooner than later and their replacements will not do ANY better...
48. #47
Pal ,   Palestine   (01.03.11)
palestinians and israelis agreed to 2 states solution . you stay in Germany my friend and solve your own problems. leave ours to us please and so everyone who is not from here ..be polite and keep your $$$$ to yourself . we already have too many chiefs with no indians .
49. say it Bibi:
observer   (01.04.11)
the moment I agree to freeze WITHOUT getting money and arms, I'm out
50. true American democracy
observer   (01.04.11)
American are free to reject any deal which involves money and arms in the guise of a freeze
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