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MK Ben-Ari: Eradicate treacherous leftists
Roni Sofer, Yair Altman
Published: 05.01.11, 23:29
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31.  MK Ben-Ari: Eradicate treacherous leftists
Andrei ,   Ramat Efal   (01.06.11)
Stop the democracy! LET ONLY ONE IDEOLOGY RUN THE COUNTRY! This is what you want !? I surely NOT! I don't want any polemic, I just want all of you to remember, any STATE who didn't allow the right of free speech, free opinion, fre media,and freedom of expression of it, has either disappeared or is considered as a third world country!!! MK Ben-Ari is on his way to bring us there! LET MY PEOPLE SPEAK,DEMONSTRATE, FIGHT FOR THEIR TRUTH, ALL THAT WITHIN THE LAW OF OUR DEMOCRACY!!! DO NOT LET THEOCRACY TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY!!! IT WILL BE THE END OF IT !!!
32. Long overdue
Nick ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (01.06.11)
The Israeli Left has a long history of using the legal system to impose their minority views on the majority of Israelis. If there were a genuine democracy in Israel, KACH and Kahane Chai would never have been banned and we would not be facing the absurd quagmire of "the Road Map" that is the legacy of the Left.
33. Reply to John R, NYC
FG   (01.06.11)
Each and every one of your glib staement is the torture of reality, nothing else and more than cheap discredited slogans, whose validity has been profoundly refuted and discredited by serious scholars of international law. Your sloganeering is vain and untenable. Melanie Phillips on the case: melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=789
34. Xenophobia rules Israel
Baruch Norman ,   Bet HaKerem   (01.06.11)
This is the edges of our politics with their hands on the levers of power putting into action against their 'foes' a mix of McCarthyism, Stalin-style aggression and xenophobia. These are people who function on the primitive basis of 'if you aren't with us you're against us', who do not understand the reality of democracy and who learned their politics under communism which denies free speech. Anything that can be described as 'Left' becomes a target - look out Meretz and Labour! Any NGO that receives foreign funding? Does that include Keren Kayemet, the Sochnut, Histadrut Ha'Tzionit Ha'Olamit? We'd better check their foreign income disclosures too - or are they kosher because they support the settlers? This is the voice of the politics of the bully and we are losing our nation to this dangerous internal oppression.
35. @#5: Israel's Democracy is a Democracy Under Attack.
Bat Zion ,   Central Israel   (01.06.11)
It is suspected that certain countries, who also fund Madrases preaching for terrorism and Anti-Semitism in certain European countries, also support organizations such as the New Israel Fund. "New Israel" means, in the eyes of many here, that Israel is to lose it's identity. Now, you'd think that those who wish to change the nature of Israel, from the Jewish State to Everyone's State, would seek open ways to pursue their goal, and simply call for referendum - right? But, it seems they work under the surface and not out in the open, concealing their true goal, wrapped under the guise of human rights and peace activists, while their true objective is to expropriate Israel from Jewish hands. This is what we're afraid of. We do not posses the power to hold them back forever. I believe it was Gadaffi who said, that if all Arabs would spit, Israel would drown. They are spitting, John. As for the embassies in Jerusalem, well, they were shut down one by one under the pressure of the Arab League. I believe the last was went down four or five years ago. And as for what goes on in Gaza, you know full well that it is Hamas who calls the shots there. There is plenty of food and goods in Gaza - but only for Hamas' "Our People".
36. @#10: One of the sad implications of our struggle to save
Bat Zion ,   Central Israel   (01.06.11)
our Israeli and Jewish identity is the rise of rightist religious factors. This may be regretful, but if I must choose between them and converting to Islam and living the low life of a dhimmi, then I choose the SHAVIS over the Burka. You didn't stay here to help us fight - moreover, you join the attacks on us. Other Israelis even LEAD attacks on Israel. Yes, we feel betrayed.
37. Ben Ari is a fascist.
Elad Lending ,   Yahel, Israel   (01.06.11)
I do not write this lightly. What else can one call a politician who unabashedly uses the podium of his democratically elected position to attempt to silence and imprison his legitimate opposition?
38. #5
(01.06.11)
Where is between free speech and treason? Wherever it is, the left has long since crossed it.
39. it's ...
Y.G. ,   Israel   (01.06.11)
.. about time.
40. @JohnR
Y.G. ,   Israel   (01.06.11)
You really need to do your homework. The UN Resolutions concerning Israel are Chapter VI Resolutions. They are advisory. The same with the IHC. They are worth about as much as if they were written on toilet paper. So please..take your crocodile tears for the 'Palestinians' (sic) elsewhere. The land is Jewish now and until the end of the world. And say "amen".
41. Extremism “iber alles”
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot   (01.06.11)
This type of talk is reminiscent of the Nazi party talk against Jews. I do not support the left nor do I support the right, I am a middle roader. Your suggestion proves that all extremes are dangerous. All NGOs should be investigated not just the left’s NGOs. The far right and the far left must be reined in. Such talk and actions by the right are very dangerous to Israeli democracy.
42. Bravo #9
Madeleine ,   Israel   (01.06.11)
You have siad it - or rather quoted it - exactly as it is. Anti-israel groups exist the world over. It is those groups in Israel, Israelis who belong to those groups, whose aim is purely to show Israel in a bad light, that this new law is aiming to probe. While we expect biased reporting from the foreign media, flagrant biased reporting from within, without reference to the actions of the Palestinians, Hamas, Hizbollah and other terrorist groups is treachery.
43. the shin beit already know
sweeter than honey ,   far away   (01.06.11)
this whole farce is to let everyone else in on it. remember, always follow the money. and if you find that the money comes from oil mega rich union brethren in oslo, or champagne socialistas in new york, then you might truly have cause for complaint at the corruption of israeli democracy.
44. This guy is nothing except a Nazi
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (01.06.11)
He's just moving air from his mouth. The law is very clear in Israel: It's a democratic State ! There must be a Left and a Right. And that's it. He can't just eradicate us. Nobody will let him do that ! If we are like Hamas, then what is this guy? a modern Hitler for sure ! And it's always funny to see that the only political party always in trouble with the Justice is extrem right wing Sh'ass...
45. When do we start to use the F word?
Daniel ,   USA   (01.06.11)
I mean fascism. We're not there yet, but labeling the democratic opposition "enemies of the state" is another unmistakable step in that direction. As long as political opportunists can benefit from hawking this trash, I fear the trend is unstoppable.
46. Kol Ha'Kavod Ben-Ari
Lobo ,   USA   (01.06.11)
If only we had someone like that here in America. Leftism has become another word for appeasement and hatred.
47. #3 you make me sick!
shlomo ,   USA   (01.06.11)
So now right wing Israeli Jews have become the new Nazis? What's next, pogroms against the left?? With Jews like you, you don't need to worry about Iran, you will destroy Israel from within. And when Jews around the would abandon you, and sensible Israeli Jews move to other countries to escape the Jewish Taliban, what will you do when Arab armies invade?? Pray? Lots of luck then. Remember the saying "We have met the enemy, and he us us".
48. Reciprocity. Tit-for-tat.
Jules   (01.06.11)
As soon as all Islamic countries allow free distribution on their territories of newspapers with strong Zionist agenda, I will renounce the world of Ben-Ari. But not a one second earlier. Freedom of expression must be a reciprocal phenomenon.
49. How does one erradicate harmful thinking of a large part
tom ,   tel aviv   (01.06.11)
of population (note: HARMFUL, not: DIFFERENT)- The same way one erradicates the notion of religion from human-experience, which means: you tell me ! Soon Europe shall be chanting islamic , sharia- slogans in the name of democratic, all- encompassing suicidial philosophy. Democracy is the Biggest Lie of them all !!
50. never said silence
Ellen ,   Israel/USA   (01.06.11)
Those who are mourning Israeli democracy just don't get it. Ben Ari never said silence the left. Asking whose mouthpiece they really are is not the same as silencing them. No one, and I write this as a rightest feels that there shouldn't be two opinions verbalized in Israel. ( of course,many in the left have always had problem when the 2nd opinion is right) However, when you have organizations that are using huge foreign support from nations with their own agenda re: Israel ( and I am not talking about private donations from ordinary people all over the world) than you have a double diplomacy going. You have the nation saying what it will to the Israeli government and you have the same nation spending money to help NGOs lie, fabricate and denounce. Only yesterday there was an article re: a group setting up a false situation and filming it. AND that is tiny---when property is destroyed, when false reports are issued, when situations are staged, when false information makes itself into foreign reports and suddenly becomes truth, when everything is done with unlimited funds to paint Israel as the bad one on the international stage--this must stop! This is not an opposing opinion, this is being a traitor--pure and simple.
51. Really frightening!
Yakov ,   Tel Aviv   (01.06.11)
History is replete with one societal segment, perverting legitimate remedies, to destroy another. McCarthyism, the inquisition, the purges, national socialism and many others have been used effectively to destroy and repress an opposition. However, this kind of action always results in catastrophe. Look at what happened in Pakistan, this week! Is this what we want for Israel? Fear, reprisal, repression and unilateral domination. A recipe for destruction. Our enemies can just sit back, relax and wait. And, I fear, for not very long. A society needs diversity, checks and balances and opposing opinions, Short of that is fascism, and that always fails. A healthy society must engage differing opinion, and when that is removed, the end is near.
52. Response to #47:
Israeli 2   (01.06.11)
Israeli right wingers are not the nazis, Shlomo. The sick and the destroyers of Israel are the left wingers. They are traitors to Israel. If you will find a way to help us displace all of those left wing nuts out of Israel, no Arab country and certainly not Iran will dare attack Israel. You are right Shlomo. With people like you, we do not need any enemies. You have met the enemy and he is you, pachdan boged.
53. Michael Ben-Ari the national lunatic
Avi ,   Israel   (01.06.11)
Michael Ben-Ari is a dangerous man, how strange for someone who claims to be close to God he is enraged with hatred for his fellow jews. On a regular basis he fans the flame of hatred and rascism and provokes minorities in Israel, his particular style of rasicim is the lowest based on his warped mentality, the more he rants and raves the bigger idiot he becomes. He abuses the right of free speach by his incitement, and obviously hasnt heard of democracy.
54. Hitler has been reincarnated his name is MK Ben Ari
Haim ,   Tel aviv   (01.06.11)
Although this time i think hes more dangerous than before.
55. #9
Humphrey ,   Whitehall, UK   (01.06.11)
Sounds all to familar to me... in Ulster the protestants think that catholics, even if they're Britsh, are the enemy within and need to be "dealt with" (vice versa the provos do). Same goes with the ideology of a former Georgian wannabe priest (you know who) and a former Austrian who couldn't make it to study architecture... And NO, I am not from the left, but a pround cardholding member of the Tories. “Without Freedom of thought, there can be no such Thing as Wisdom; and no such thing as public Liberty, without Freedom of speech” Bejamin Franklin
56. RADICAL ATHEIST LEFTISTS are spies for the enemy!
Jason   (01.06.11)
57. #5 to John(y) from the gratest NYC
Joav ,   Germany   (01.06.11)
Johny what happening with Israels democracy you ask? I ask you in return to show us here only one single country on our blue planet under islamic rules, were is democracy? John what is WB? You meant certanly Judea&Samaria? Thats ok. everyone make mistakes. But back to occupation. John tell please why you as "american" occupated the Indian land, ban this people out of their country? John and what is about Guantamo? Again Johny, before you come here with a hole baggage of advices and recomendations, first thing you need to do to look into the mirror.
58. # 15 .sjoerd van der velde
Joav ,   Germany   (01.06.11)
I "agree" with you too. Some serious experts say that you Holland will disappear in 60-90 years. So you children will probably have such like Mohamed and Yassir or Abdul and not like Bastian, Lars etc.I wish you to have fun under Sharia law and freedom of expression. You are on the "right way" Holland. P.S. I ask myself sometimes, why are the Hollander vote for Geert Wilders if they have such "harmonic" and tolerate soceity ha?!
59. Eradicate treacherous leftists.
elsie. ,   gush halav   (01.06.11)
All groups from the left to the right should have transparency as far as donations are concern, all this witch-hunting does Israel no good, as for the "right" screaming bloody murder at everybody, well be the first to open your donation books,make yourselfs an example of openess for the others.
60. This new move in the Knesset is not
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (01.06.11)
about eradicating those NGOs generally characterized as leftist but rather the right to investigate their funding. This same proposition would also allow the government to investigate an NGO characterized as rightist. If the sources of the funding are illegal, then the NGO must either be abolished or, at the very least, penalized. Furthermore, in an open society, funding sources should be exposed and open to scrutiny. If the NGOs in question such as Peace Now and Women Against the Wall are receiving funding from credible sources, they should have nothing to worry about, and, in fact, exposure would strengthen their respective positions. On the other hand, if their (NGO's) funding sources come, for instance, from Arab sources directly or indirectly connected with terrorist groups such as al-Queda or Hamas and/or bodies bent on the delegitimization of the State of Israel, then this information should become evident for circulation in the public arena. There is much concern amongst the Israeli Jewish population and amongst diaspora Jewry as well that we (in Israel) are being sabotaged from within. The dangers were well expressed by Cicero as quoted in Reply #9. It's worth reading this Talkbacker's reply a second time. If, on the other hand, NGO funding sources are legitemate, then we will have assuaged our greatest fears. What's not to admire about this new initiative on the part of the Knesset?
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