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What about Arab racism?
Shaul Rosenfeld
Published: 06.01.11, 16:22
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31. calm down
Unknown ,   Canada   (01.06.11)
Waw have lot a hate.. All your comments are discusting. you guys d on t beleive in something called humanity. I guess you did not learn your lesson. What kind of racism you re talking about you all look the same to me. Grow the f*** up and stop complaining
32. #24 - when Chabad moved into elitist N. Tel Aviv
William ,   Israel   (01.06.11)
The secular Israelis when bezerk! They led protests, screamed loudly, and petitioned to keep the "religious" from "invading their city". A truly racist reaction by those who claim to uphold human rights and democracy. Happens all the time in Israeli Left neighborhoods, and usually among the older rich or younger with an undeserved sense of entitlement.
33. #30 - except that most of Salma's posts support racism
William ,   Israel   (01.06.11)
and violent attacks on Israeli civilians. Her post in #1 fails to address the fleeing of Christians from Muslim abuse in the West Bank, while claiming that "all forms of racism" should be addressed. What you failed to do - besides read the article - was to ask yourself and we ask ourselves, why is one form of "racism" considered acceptable while another is considered "racism"? A question purported by the article in regards to the constantly justified Arab racism, which is both rampant and very deep (over 90 years now) is why is any racism not addressed as bad and thus eradicated?
34. It's time to overcome this FEAR to tell the truth
Marcella   (01.06.11)
Some of the news published by INN and fearless bloggers never make it to other media. Not because they're untrue but because the leftist media are careful to publish only a fraction of Arab misdeeds - while exploiting any issue they regard as reflecting negatively on the Jews and Israel. Thus we see tons of reports and columns attacking the rabbis' views on renting to Arabs, for example. Government authorities at all levels on the other hand, have a wider agenda: They want to avoid an increase in Jewish-Arab tension, at the expense of the truth. They take pains to downplay and even hide Arab misdeeds. Acts of terror are characterized as merely "criminal" or "accidental". Jewish reports of Arab violence are often not registered by police, much less investigated. Official rates of Arab crime do not represent the actual figures. In the meantime police, as Barak promised, treat the settlers with an "iron fist", in an attempt to keep them submissive in face of Arab aggression. Israel has to get over this fear because those Arabs who break the law and who incite or perpetrate violence against Jews with impunity ARE AWARE of this Jewish fear and take full advantage of it. One of the most outrageous cases is the government deliberate policy to ignore racist and inciteful Arab media and textbooks. Jewish politicians who make speeches about European anti-Semitism pretend not to see the hatred being propagated by some Israeli Arabs and their brothers in the PA. Perhaps Shaul Rosenfeld may want to address this government fear in one of his future columns.
35. racism against criminals
Benny ,   Lyon, France   (01.06.11)
So, the Palestinians should love the people who came from abroad to steal their land and kill them?
36. SHAUL ROSENFELD
LT COL HOWARD ,   WASHINGTON DC USA   (01.07.11)
Since, I folow he Palestinian, Egyptian, Syrian Jordanian Lebanese, Saudi Arabian,etc. media I can testify to the vast amount of vitriol that daily appears concerning Jews worldwide and Israel in particular. Since, most Israeli Muslims cannot find it within themselves to condemn murder of Jews it seems to be far-fetched to cite instances where there is distrust among Jews toward Arab neighbors. I wish that the efforts expended by the Jewish intellectual chattering classes was devoted to supporting Israel and its institutions rather than undermining Israel's legitimacy in the world media. I never believed in the term “self hating Jew” as a descriptor for these individuals. However, unfortunately, this term fits them exceedingly well.
37. "If he did it, so can I" Are we children?
David ,   Los Angeles   (01.07.11)
38. Racism
Erudite ,   Australia   (01.07.11)
Its fascinating to see how quickly the outside world participates in Jewish discourse which is part of who Jews are. Discussions debates has been part of jewish life from time immemorial.opinions of racism in Israel is part of multi debates that are tossed around .Now enter the Quasi Anti-Semites or should I say the "political correct " Anti-Israel multitudes of intellectually dishonest and usefull idiots jumping on their soapbox vomiting their diatribe while ignoring the reality of what and who is Israel.Authenticity of Israel lays in its vibrant democracy which its arab population enjoys and are represented in the Knesset and benefit the highest standard of living of any Arab nation and to be sure would never want to be part of a greater Arab society. Is there racism? sure .Show me a nation where minorities dont have to deal with this issue, there is not one. Want to talk Racism? 57 Muslim states how are Christians and Jews and other non Muslims faring there. The majority have been driven out or Murdered. Look at Europe the leftist political correctness is slowly evaporating .Not to mention Asia, Africa. African refugees escaping MUSLIM discrimination are crossing the negev to Israel. Its a testament of their knowledge to try and reach a JEWISH country whilst avoiding MUSLIM nations where they are murdered or best ransomed for there life.All you Ignoramuses and usefull idiots get a life and some education.
39. Israel"s Survival
M.D. Green, MD ,   Boston,Ma. USA   (01.07.11)
I would hope in the MAD (mutually assured destruction scenarios: That Israel makes it clear that if say: Tel Aviv and Haifa were badly hurt or destroyed: that Mecca & Medina would follow!!! Any Arab or Moslem that began such trouble would become the most hated Moslem in the world FOREVER. Wonder if Iran's leader ever imagined this outcome? End of the hajj, and radioactive, the area could not be visited or rebuilt. This idea should end all risk to Israel. Cordially, M
40. loyaty oath
alexsei   (01.07.11)
lieberman's loyalty oath makes total sense. Soon, the do gooders barak, livni, and bleeding hearts olmert and oron will be passed by israeli arab behaviour. Alll israelis must take the loyalty oath once it becomes law. Those who cannot take it or whose behaviour contradicts the oath, would then have their citizenship removed, benefits cut, and shipped out of the country after a legal hearing. This will be necessary to deal withthe huge israel arab issue.They then will be removed from the country within a certain time period. Zoabi, tibi, sana and others behaviour has provoked the loyalty oath. Without the oath, arab treason will continue and become more extreme. Aside from their behavour, except for many druse and christian arabs, one could not ever contemplate a more ungrateful bunch.
41. Well done and written Shaul Rosenfeld
Eran ,   Singapore   (01.07.11)
42. To: No. 35
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.07.11)
Steal "their" land? When Jews first arrived in the First and Second Aliyah, fulfilling our destiny to re-establish our State in its ancient homeland, Palestine was desolate, barely populated; swampland in the north and desert in the south. Besides, the land was PURCHASED -- repeat, PURCHASED -- from the Ottoman Turks, whose land it was to sell. The ersatz "Palestinians" did not start to arrive in Eretz Israel until the Jews had reclaimed the land, inch by backbreaking inch. Those stories they like to tell about "olive groves" and "fruit orchards?" Pure fantasy. You cannot steal what is yours, and the Jews did not. As to "killing" them -- perhaps they should not have started six wars or engaged in seven decades of unrelenting terror and violence. The Jews had as much right to kill these violent terrorists as the Resistance had a right to destroy the Nazi war machine in France. The difference? The French targeted the Nazi military hierarchy and Nazi collaborators. Arab terrorists target only civilians. You need to study the true history of the region. You will find it enlightening although perhaps not to your liking. Don't worry -- I don't think very highly of the French.
43. I can see...
FG   (01.07.11)
the International League of the self-hating Jews from LA, NY, Belgium, Spain (?) and, where else, Israel came out of the woodwork to this piece. Too bad they only proved their, er... self-hatred, irrational racism of "soft bigotry of least expectations" and their, er... general thoughtlessness, i.e.: stupidity.
44. The Selfdeceived Leftists Foolishness and Idiocy.
Orao. ,   Srbia.   (01.07.11)
Even if the rabbis’ letter is no more than an improper, foolish initiative that brings minor benefits but causes great PR damage, it at least granted us another opportunity to ascertain the nature of the hypocritical mechanism adopted by our cultural, media, and academic elite. And so, a great gulf exists between a rather large Jewish public, who believes that loyalty to the state and failure to sympathize with its enemies are significant components in granting rights to its citizens, and an academic, media and cultural elite that is horrified by any such conditioning, viewing it as clear proof of Jewish racism. Some go as far as comparing us to certain states in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s. Comment - The Selfdeceived Leftists Opinion of Equality is the Cause. Everything that in Their opinion differ from that is Racism. There is only 3 Races, and Arabism and Israelism does not pertain to Racism, but Nationalism. The Leftists has Perverted the Truth, and therefore always come up with Perverse Opinions.. When One makes a Partial Truth, as Equality, to the Whole Truth, is seems as Truths stands against the Truth, or other Truths. This is the Works of the Evil One, and Only God can heal such a Perverted Personality, Because, Those shall I call them - Usefull Idiots - can not understand that the Truth of Equality, can be wrong. It is not wrong, but only Their Application of that Truth to Reality is. And there is many differenses/Partial Truths, in Equality. Orao.
45. A Jewish Claim
Michael ,   Haifa   (01.07.11)
Not only are we different from other nations but we claim that "we are a light unto them"
46. to #35
Erudite ,   Australia   (01.07.11)
So the Algerians should love the people who came from abroad to steal their land and kill them. What did France have to do in Africa. Or for that matter in the pacific detonating nuclear bombs. Jews returned to their land that they inhabited before France even existed. To many frogs legs and escargot makes one stupid Mr Vichy
47. #10
jerusalem   (01.07.11)
israel is nothing more than a self proclaimed "democracy" with dictatorship qualities. The Arabs should enjoy this mockery that israel is putting on and keep the mere name positions in the Kinesset since surely no Arab will become president and any attempt will be neutralized from its infancy. Dont people like you get tired of pulling out the "anti-semitic" card whenever you dont have people with the same (racist, biased) ideology as you? Your 'educating' anyone wont go farther than your own like, so its actually a good thing that you havent wasted your time (and our's!). In short, your unbelievably small and limited, 'much apprised intellect" goes as far as your huge nose and other opinions (not racist or blindly following) seems to have a better chance for the sake of sanity in this world of the fittest.
48. # 6, 15 Selective outrage.
tejas ,   India   (01.07.11)
Jewish people in Israel are 0.08380727156660767% of the total world population. Does it really matter what they do. Why do you wnat that all the morality and and human right loyalty should be followd by very small amount of people, and it doesn't even matter whatever entire world is doing. Selecting the certian community to criticize, what else can be the definition of racism? . Where do you get this kind of discriminative education.
49. to 48
salmahna   (01.07.11)
sure you are from india and the racism here is in israil or in palastine it is a small country to be like india but if it is a problem in india you will put it in another words .. i raed most of the posts here many are against the author article and there are somewith him i think the post in any way depends on the word --racism -- in general and the feeling of it in particular so it differ in a big range even i think the author put his article under the two ways -in general and the feeling as a response to some saying against israil /// it is like a man see a needle and want to write about its penetrating his skin sure this writing will differ from after it will be penetrate deep to his muscle /// hahaha ha be quiet t Mr.. waite a while then write your article
50. Nr 44.
Orao. ,   Srbia.   (01.07.11)
Further - The Word Equality in Equals means that, there is at least Two Differenses that is Compared, but, Equality as such in this, Pertains to - BEEING - and not - BECOMING. Beeing is something You are, and not something You do, whereas - Becoming is something You do, and not something You are. Nationalistic Arabism and Israelism is Becomings/Differemses/Actions and not Beings as such, even when those Becomings is in Being. And Good And Bad Actions of Becoming, is not Equals, not even Differenses, but Opposites.. Orao.
51. Nr 48.
Ora. ,   Srbia.   (01.07.11)
Where do you get this kind of discriminative education. tejas , India (01.07.11) Comment - Why do You Yourself Discriminate Between - TEJAS - and the Opposite., and INDIA and Israel. Further - Jewish people in Israel are 0.08380727156660767% of the total world population. Does it really matter what they do. Comment - So Differense of Good and Bad Action as such, does not matter then Selecting the certian community to criticize, what else can be the definition of racism? Comment - So in your own Definition You are an Racist. You seem more than Foolish to me, even an Idiot. Orao.Srbia.
52. # 49
tejas ,   India   (01.07.11)
Pardon me. But I am not able crack your code.
53. number 30
ester ,   melbourne   (01.07.11)
make sure that from Italy the land of the perverse, the Mafia have the same respect for any life like the jews have to the arabushim in Israel. your country is full of african prostitute that your people bring from Africa. It reminds me of the blind leading the blind
54. # to Ora., Srbia.
tejas ,   India   (01.07.11)
What is the matter with you? Will you please stop posting these ciphers. Are you not able to express your feelings in simple words which everyone can understand. Using the abysmal words and brain teasing logic is not going to make you a philosopher. It shows your confusion and vague perception.
55. to 53 - Dear, I agree with you and...
Alberto ,   Italy   (01.07.11)
I am preparing aliya to join my two sons in Eretz Istìrael. So, since I care, I try to discuss, not to insult, other readers. Try to grow up, see you in Israel..
56. To: #2
Justaguy ,   CA, USA   (01.07.11)
It's possible you may be missing the truth shown in the article - that many who protest racism are shown to be false by their bias (i.e., highlighting Jewish racism, while ignoring even more widespread, more severe Arab racism). If in fact, the media doesn't really care about racism, then it raises the question as to what they truly oppose. For my money, the media in question is opposed to ideology - the more the ideology or culture is consistent with the Creator's character, the more they are opposed.
57. to nr. 28.
sjoerd van der velde ,   hoorn-the netherland   (01.08.11)
what is your argument/opinion with sense about this article in ynetnews.com? perhaps you can convince me if you have better arguments. please show them to me. perhaps i still can learn something i donot know! lots of success and mazzeltov.
58. So this is a dostor of Philosophy...
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (01.08.11)
..in Israel? Explains the habit of many posters who excuse the most egregious violations of International Law and human rights perpetrated by the state of Israel. If an innocent Palestinian dies, the Pavlovian Zionist response is to talk about Paliwood and crimes committed by American forces. It is worth noting that the moral bankruptcy is not limited to the institutions of the military and Knesset. Whether the racist is a young man firing rockets from Gaza or a New Yorker who dismisses the death of an innocent Palestinian, they are both obstacles to peace and the possibility of peace. It is often the racist who denies the possibility of peace because he/she cannot reconcile their animosity for whom they consider to be the "others". You were right Salma.
59. Muslims can Marry Christians and Jews
Ali   (01.08.11)
Muslims can Marry Christians and Jews. Islam permits it. It happened in past and continues as we speak in US and Europe. So what racism does this guy talk about?
60. Arabs never claimed to be Western democrats
Kojan   (01.08.11)
The writer forgets that the difference between Israelis and Palestinians is that Palestinians never presented themselves as the front line defense for Western civilization and values. the West heaps aid upon Israel because they believe it's a Western democracy. Well, it's not. The West never thought of Palestinians as Western Democrats. Hamas does not pretend to be Western Democrat. So you understand why the world is shocked to see this hideous side of Zionisms. Zionist spin vs Zionist reality. So no matter how many times you try to defame the Palestinians, it won't save the Israelis. Your survival depends on the West believing you are like them, not like the Arabs. That's not what they are discovering.
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