Those are the very same borders that the Palestinian's refused to accept in the first place Your side launched a war,using five Arab armies to protest implementation of those very same borders We all know that you're not the brighest light out there, in fact a very dim bulb One State, of course, cross the Allenby Bridge, head into Jordan, that's where 77% of the Palestine Mandate is located

Aren't we already friends? :)

considering what Pentagon Top Strategists determined to be secure borders for Israel in 1967 which is also the requirement of UNSC 242. In today's military situation Pentagon Map gives Israel too little for secure borders.

because his Charter which he HAS TO FOLLOW requires that all Israel belongs to Palestinian Arab state. Thus he can suggest only truce with his partial demand but no peace with him is available.

palestinian state will be established either we say yes or no

ha ha ha you may not know me i am not arab or muslim i am a christian zionist who against giving up one inch of judea and samaria to the arabs so i am against lieberman plan because he is going to give up half o f judea and samaria for nothing without peace agreement and will be forced to negotiate on the rest and on jerusalem at the end of the day it is like oslo so dont accuse me before making sure if you are leftist so you will consider that lieberman is right and i am wrong so there will be no problem are you leftist???

if Israel wants to play games, then so can you. Kassam rockets would be able to strike every inch of Israel from the new state. If Israel attacks a building deep in Palestine you respond with a kassam attack on the Knesset or Prime Ministers residence. Seems logical to me that Palestinians should embrace the provisional state accorded to them under the Road Map.

Erekat would much prefer a Zion Chamutz Gadol

Every country has some oddballs, that's nothing really new There are those that would cut off their noses to spite their face Now tell us, how many decent Arabs, have you found that support the existence of a State of Israel ?

For all. Brian is NOT an Israeli citizen. Not worth getting into an arguement with him.

Its my first time to know ....wow : )

Hey gregg, or whatever name you hide under...In the so-called palistan there are only 2 kinds of people: too evil and too misguided...And Brian Cohen speeks for me Gregg and for most of the readers on this blog...Don't like it ? Go and post on el jazeera....

under Ottoman rule, the black palestinians are from Sudan, the others are mostly from whats now called egypt Jordan lebanon syria libya iraq and arabian peninsula. They came for jobs at the same time as the massive waves of Jewish return was occuring (1880-1948, and when Jordan occupied Judea & Samaria from 1948-1967) Its no big deal save for the fact that the arabs HAVE 22, repeat 22 countries, and Jordan is Palestine as its 78% of the palestine mandate and its population is 80% palestinian. It even used to be called "Palestine". And for kickers, its ruled by a non native british import who is severely in the minority ruling a huge "Palestinian" majority. Jordan is Palestine, nothing else will be a viable "state" for this made up ficticious people with no sovereign nation ever being called "palestine", ever. History books dont lie. Jordan is Palestine znd there is your solution

Kudos Jennie. Brian Cohen speaks for me too. Way to go Brian.

What are you doing there ? Come join us, it's fun here :-)

In 1988, there were only about 300,000 Jews in Judea and Samaria. Israel's government was much more pacifist than it is today. There were no Avigdor Lieberman equivalents in government. Israelis were far less right wing than today. Yet still "Palestinians" couldn't make a state. They made only a meaningless declaration. Today there are almost 700,000 Jews in Judea and Samaria, including Jerusalem. Israel's government and citizens are far more patriotic and right wing. Conditions for "Palestinian" statehood are far less favorable than in 1988. Another meaningless declaration of "Palestine" statehood is coming.

Just as small children dream about fictitious places like Oz and Neverland, where a child never has to do homework. Jew haters dream about fictitious "Palestine". "Palestine" is the dream land where no Jews live and where the media always tells the opposite of the truth. Meanwhile, in the real world, there is a rapidly growing community of almost 700,000 Jews in Judea and Samria. A guarantee that "Palestine" will always be fictitios no matter how many phony flags are raised to it. We won't allow fictitious "Palestine" on our land. Period.

No, I never was & could never be a leftist...I am a Jewish Zionist with the same agenda, just like my ancestors were ...I guess I miised reading about Liberman's plan, mentioned in your post...I'll have to look it up...Thank You, Fad, for standing up for the truth....

Unrealistic for four reasons. Giving the Palis Area B is a reward for not negotiating. The borders would be provisional thus more would be given up later. The borders would again be 9 miles wide, and finally it fails to take into account Israel's religious rights. Does anyone in the Israeli government read Eugene W Rostow?

and Israel should settle the entire land. Plenty of arab islamic countries for the newborn "pali" people. never had a country before and won't invent one now. want to live in Israel peacefully and productively-welcome. want to be like the rest of the jihadist, hating, islamic fundalmentalists? get the hell out.

....This calls for immediate discussion!!! On behalf of the Judean Peoples Front, and also on behalf of those splitters - the Peoples Front of Judea - thanks!

lieberman supported the two state solution before bibi did and before becoming foreign minister without any conditions lieberman favors dividing jerusalem lieberman supports deployemet of nato forces in gaza and judea and samaria lieberman supports giving up the triangle inside the green line to the pa lieberman initiated the withdrawl from ghajar lieberman supported the freeze for 10 months did nothing to prevent the second freeze didnt threat to resign but he is just trying to cause coalition problem to acheive his pathetic conversion bill even if that will lead to the departure of shas from the coalition supported the inclusion kadima into the government lieberman is in favor of interim agreement with the pa like oslo in which israel will give up security control in the cities to the pa and may be evacuation of settlements lieberman in favor of evacuation of settlements lieberman supports the road map on the other hand bibi supported a pa entity which less than a state with condition of the recognition of israel as the state of the jewish people after huge pressure from the us bibi against dividing jerusalem bibi against the deployement of nato forces in gaza and in judea and samaria bibi supports the israeli presence in the jordan valley bibi against giving up land in negav or galilee bibi against evacuation of settlements bibi refused to negotiate about borders in the approximity talks or during the direct talks in september bibi wants to talk first about security and the recognition of the israel as the state of the jews bibi was firm against obama pressure in general and particular when the latter humilated him in us visit in last april when he pressured him to make many gestures include: freeze jerusalem constraction extend the freeze after september removing the roadblocks transfere from area c to area b in judea and samaria and from area b to area a freeing pa prisoners transfere the abu dis to the pa lifting the gaza seige halting the demolition of the illegal arab construction in jerusalem freeze the ramat shlomo for two years imagaine all these demands on the prime minister but he stood firm bibi against the interim agreemet like oslo because he will be forced to give up land for security bibi against the road map yes bibi made many mistakes for example the bar illan speech and the freeze but he is still doing a good job www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/130720 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124057 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/129650 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123848 www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=194349 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3678816,00.html http://mondoweiss.net/2009/04/netanyahu-in-february-i-will-not-evacuate-any-settlement.html http://www.haaretz.com/news/netanyahu-israel-will-never-cede-jordan-valley-1.266329 http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=200636 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3868404,00.html http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3998484,00.html www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=197435 http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3978109,00.html please read and open these sited they are real proof of may opinion shalom and god bless israel

How does Leiberman think the Palestinians can form a state on just 50% of the West Bank. There must be over 7 million Palestinians in the territories and the diaspora.

Gregg is my real name.. I have nothing to hide. You are completely right to say that Brian probably talks for the most of you here (since no one is entitled to think for himself) - but I feel the need to precise you Jennie, that most of you here do not represent the whole Israelis

Why haven't you replied to my question about how many Arabs favor Israel ?? Can't you even find a token few to present for our edification As a refresher, it was in my post #39, this forum Don't make me feel like a bill collector having to chase after you "Now tell us, how many decent Arabs, have you found that support the existence of a State of Israel ? "

The palestinians like to live 10 in a room & 50 in 1 house. Real close.

Fad is a decent individual, whose contributions here deserve respect. Please read his second post, #25, before jumping to conclusions.

thank you so much i appreciate your comment please read my comment on # 53 the comparison between BiBI and Lieberman i am not a strong supporter or a fan of BiBi thank you again and god bless you and bless israel

thank you so much i appreciate your comment please read my comment on # 53 the comparison between BiBI and Lieberman i am not a strong supporter or a fan of BiBi thank you again and god bless you and bless israel