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Police: Palestinian cell murdered US tourist
Omri Efraim
Published: 26.01.11, 13:52
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1. where was the police since
droreishen ,   tel avivas   (01.26.11)
all the crimes in the past of the cell and they was realesed i shocked droreishen
2. Where are you, "Matty Groves"?
Tahl ,   Ashdod   (01.26.11)
Just after this murder you refused to acknowledge the obvious (that this was a nationalistically-motivated murder by Palestinian terrorists) and instead you stubbornly and cynically insinuated that the two women had a spat and ended up at each other's throats. After all, being the Arab-apologist that you are, you would do anything to divert blame from your beloved Palestinians and smear Israelis instead. Now as the details of the terrorist cell responsible for the attack are revealed, I believe you owe the two women an apology. But somehow I doubt a hypocrite like you has the moral capacity for it.
3. Aha !
Salma ,   Palestine   (01.26.11)
would you free them after 27 years in prison? Or Yona Avrushmi is an exception?!
4. #3 - In the normal country they wouldn't see a day light
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (01.26.11)
And you would look at the Land either on TV or from way across the river.
6. # 3
Birdi ,   Israel   (01.26.11)
As a pally you just cant accept the fact that some of your "innocent" people committed murder.You have to spew your garbage here, dont you. Yeah, its fun to kill for the sake of killing,isnt it?
7. #2 - good memory
Eyal ,   USA   (01.26.11)
8. Aha - #3 Salma
Df ,   Beer Sheva, Israrel   (01.26.11)
Avrushmi was convicted of 1 murder, non-premeditated. These people are indicted for at least 2 murders, 2 attempted murders, rape, burglary and who knows what else. All premeditated which puts it into a different legal framework. While I may disagree with Avrushmi's release, these characters are in a very different class. Question is - are you justifying what they did on the grounds that Avrushmi is being released after 27 years ?
9. Go Tahl! As well as the other deficit talkbacker who said
Scott ,   Haifa   (01.26.11)
it was a plot by Kaye Wilson. Oh, I pray they rid Israel of these feral creatures with a fair legal proceeding and subsequent death penalty - and not trade them in a later deal. We don't want to pay to keep them alive, just put them to death. God help us.
10. Innocent till proven guilty..
vernon marriott ,   Tel Aviv   (01.26.11)
..I thought "innocent till proven guilty" was a principle in Israeli law. If so, why the headlines and the angle that these "are" the culprits. In countries where there's jury system such reporting would not be allowed - and people would not be jumping to conclusions. Secondly, could it be that these are just petty thieves who've been set up? How were the confessions extracted I wonder?
11. # 2
Birdi ,   Israel   (01.26.11)
Kudos, Tahl.
12. Dear WhineNet: it is hard to guess your criteria for censor-
tom ,   tel aviv   (01.26.11)
ship, sometimes you do , sometimes you don't. I was merely observing, that the "'Cell" didn't turn "nationalistic": it turned animal. I know that I was violating animal's good name but there is no other , PC-approved way of describing the Practintioners of the Religion of Peace, so go and find something else to do with your Net-Life!
13. Their faces tell it all !
Joan ,   Uk   (01.26.11)
If you can read faces, any normal person can see they have murder and hate on their evil faces.
14. Tahl@2 Nice one!
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (01.26.11)
15. Salma--There really is something
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (01.26.11)
merciless and despicable about you. In the end, you are one more illustration why Jews who have experience with Muslim Arabs always remind us that Arabs are a people without compassion, a cruel people who would backstab at a moment's notice. Your cultures are so far removed from Judeo-Christian cultures that it is wrong for us to even contemplate intermingling amongst you. Best if Europe sent all their harsh Muslim population packing and, yes, perhaps Israel too. Thanks for help clarifying what you people really are, Salma. In this manner, you do make a contribution.
16. To: Tahl at No. 2
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.26.11)
Bravo. BRAVO! What do you want to bet that "Matty Groves" slinks off to her stinking midden and declines to respond? Me, personally? I'll bet the farm. "Matty Groves" is a fraudulent jackal. Oh, but we knew that already, didn't we?
17. To: No. 23
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (01.26.11)
Your attempt to conflate apples and pears doesn't work, Salma. Please try and do better next time.
18. # 12
Birdi ,   Israel   (01.26.11)
Ynet uses an automated censoring system; a software device which is used for censoring our talkbacks,
19. #10 - Innocent till proven guilty
Df ,   Beer Sheva, Israel   (01.26.11)
Read again Vernon. They admitted perpetrating the murders, etc. Also the dna on the knife used to stab one of the "culprits" matches the dna of the "culprit" himself. The fact that stuff was not stolen kills your theory.
20. As to "Matty Groves", #2, he really is a
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (01.26.11)
Ynet "has been". His responses lost their initial impact over the years since he first began commenting on Ynet. The information he presented became less up-to-date and altogether repetitive. It's possible that he was a paid propagandist. In the main, his socalled "contributions" were very predictible. He was certainly more sophisticated in his approach than most anti-Israeli anti-semitic Talkbackers, however. Some of these unsophisticated ones show up on Ynet for a while, i.e., "graczek", but don't last very long. You can also find examples of pure Jew hatred on Maan News in its Talkback section. Sometimes I go there just to combat it and to discover what Maan is putting out. The "Opinions" section is rather thin, i.e., Uri Avneri, and, unlike Ynet, news items and opinion articles change very slowly. On the other hand, and to Maan's credit, they do not appear to censor Talkbackers no matter their perspective and no matter how foul their language. I used to read Haaretz, incidentally, and engage in Talkbacks until it became gradually obvious that my responses were being refused. On occasion, I've read the exact same thing from Talkbackers on Ynet (about Haaretz). In some sense, even Maan is more admirable than Haaretz. Okay, so much for my little rant. Slow news day ...
21. There is nothing unusual in this, Vernon #10:
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (01.26.11)
In Canada, where I reside when not in Israel, the news will also read that there are suspects and, if they have admitted guilt, the article will go on to say that. In the meantime, the suspects (culprits) will get a trial unless proceedings are waived and some agreement about the charges and penalty is agreed upon. So, in this manner, the journalistic approach and judicial system is not unlike that of Canada's. What would not be of benefit is not to inform the public when heinous crimes are investigated. Unfortunately, I have found that the Israeli system, whether due to journalistic inadequacies or judicial ones, do not update us on major crimes and terrorist attacks which have been committed such as the one on four murdered Israeli Jews who were driving through the territories about four months ago.
22. #8 "in a very different class " ! Aha ,again.
Salma ,   Palestine   (01.26.11)
Question is : isn't killing is killing regardless of the motives or race ?
23. Palestine
Neil ,   Brussel Belgie   (01.26.11)
Intrigued by your blog but note that jews kill non-jews at a ratio greater the 5 to one. The jewish state can survive only in a state of perpetual war. Damn you. Damn you all.
24. OF COURSE WESTERN WORLD WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THOSE CRIMES !
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25. You're ridiculous, Neil, an illustration of
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (01.26.11)
the kind of confounded logic which ends up, in your mouth "damning us". First, where did you obtain your statistics? Second, unlike Israel, Belgium is not surrounded by enemy states whose main preoccupation is to render us extinct. What would you expect from a nation which refuses to go under? But I suppose such a threat is beyond your meager comprehension, right, Neil? Better, in your eyes, to do away with the Jewish people. It's not going to happen, however, Never Again!
26. Salma #22: It's obvious that you're not
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (01.26.11)
only a Jew hater but an uneducated person who likes to pretend she isn't. Here's a short lesson: In the western world, the judge and/or jury always considers whether the killing was premeditated or not, whether there was a conspiracy involved, what was the motive for the killing, the mental state of the alleged killer, whether the killer was anti-social, a psychopath or a terrorist and many other factors before providing judgement and sentencing. No, all killings are not equivalent, Salma. I hope this commentary helps and provides you with an opportunity to engage in self-education. Over the past several months that you have been responding here on Ynet, I have not noticed any increase in depth or change in perspective. So why do you bother with Ynet anyway?
27. Bravo Tahl!
Rachel ,   US   (01.26.11)
For Matty Groves it was always the Jews fault, regardless of the evidence. He probably blames the riots in Egypt on Israel.
28. to #2 indeed good TB.
ghostq   (01.26.11)
29. More sneaky tactics from the left.
Jay3 ,   Israel   (01.26.11)
Why do they say they were only criminal motives at first when they only attacked and robbed Jews. Call it what it is Ynet......racially motivated against Jews. And the author also tries to use the death of a Hamass leader as motivation, but i suspect these terrorists are Fatah. More whitewashing by the leftist Authors Greenberg and Glickman.to try and make Fatah look moderate, when in reality they are far from that. and have omitted more terrorist acts than Hamass.
30. only in israel
Palestinian   (01.26.11)
Palestinians are convicted by the media, the police or idf and most of the time convicted and shot without any trial or court hearing. Settlers and hooligans are never convicted or even charged but commended for shooting and uprooting trees because their god told them so. Let the court convict them first -Israeli court anyway- they are innocent till proven guilty
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