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The sinking US empire
Yaron London
Published: 21.02.11, 18:19
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31. This Is Great News Because Now the
Brazen   (02.21.11)
arabs and jihadists have No reason to immigrate to the declining U.S.. And if you live in the U.S. and are arab MOVE somewhere ANYWHERE just pack your hudda and GO. Masalami !!!
32. TO HARRY, #5, THANKS FOR THE POSITIVITY
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (02.21.11)
AND REALITY CHECK TO MR. LONDON. THE DOOM AND GLOOM REPORTS ARE GETTING ON MY NERVES ALREADY. ISRAEL NEED ONLY TWO THINGS AND TWO THINGS ONLY: EMUNA AND ACHDUT.
33. I live in Israel and voted for Ron Paul twice
eli ,   nahariya   (02.21.11)
When Israelis stop relying on America and recognize their strength comes from their unity they'll have a lot more security -- the world will acknowledge the greatness of their wisdom. And God will receive honor from it.
34. Don't worry America Israel will protect you unswervingly .
Lee ,   Manchester UK   (02.21.11)
like you shoud've done with Israel. The world will learn that Israel can stand alone and will do just that.
35. Are the rats deserting the sinking ship?
crackerjack   (02.21.11)
Zionism has a record of exploiting and then deserting. The Balfour Brits and The UN serve as examples. Will the US be next in turn and who will take its place? China? The EU?
36. Israel has no "Ally"
franz von fear   (02.21.11)
Likud Israel has no ally, save a handfull of lunatic evangelists in the US. The US administrations alliegence is soley a result of AIPAC and other Israel Lobby Groups blackmailing every US administration since decades.
37. What a piss & moan session
Cameron ,   USA   (02.21.11)
The very essence of self-indulgent fearmongering. Serious credit to zionist forever at #10 for laying down some real clarity and truth on this matter.
38. as long as china buys dollars
sweeter than honey ,   far away   (02.22.11)
to devalue its own currency to make its exports cheaper then the usa will probably go on printing paper money (quantitative easing i think it's called). as soon as china stops buying paper then its exports will become expensive. they can and do make to a price. and they are capable of great quality. whether the israeli or other consumers will pay for that is another matter. whichever way they chose to compete economically is not to the detriment of the usa's economy, the opposite in fact, as the so called free market looks like it will get much bigger in time. oh yes, they're selling budweiser in saigon too, business being business etc., etc..
39. ''He who curses Israel will be cursed !''
Ben Zion   (02.22.11)
Thats the reason for the decline of the US ( and europe ).
40. American Jews Share Blame
Dan ,   USA   (02.22.11)
American Jews, overwhelmingly Democrats, gave of their time, energies, money and votes to help elect the Kenyan born, communist, Muslim Obama. To a large extent his socialistic /communistic views are shared by them. Despite selling out Israel, which most of America's eleitest Jews believe stands for all that is wrong with the world, these same people will again in 2012 donate their time, energies money and votes to keep him in office. We Jews just never seem to learn.
41. #40 Dan
solomon ,   bklyn   (02.22.11)
What world do you live in? You may not like Obama, but he is neither Kenyan born nor communist nor a Muslim. And please provide facts to back up your statement that most of America's elitist Jews believe Israel stands for all that is wrong with the world. One thing that is wrong with the world is your statements.
42. God bless America and end to any radicals.
kidane ,   eritrea   (02.22.11)
God bless america and end radicals in any form from any society and Israeli people should wake up from the trauma of what jews have exprienced and try to select good politicians not like the present ones. thnx.
43. Do not underestimate the US
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (02.22.11)
It is still the greatest country on the planet - bar nobody. The American people are not the Odumba administration. The US is undergoing an extended tough time, as is most of the world. The US can and will emerge from this as the only superpower in world. They have an incredible set of resources, people, technology and firm grounding in democracy. We do not need American aid, in fact just the opposite. We do need to end it. If the US feels the need to do so, please stop it and we will continue to thank the American people for their support in the past and in their moral support. Ungrateful we are not, please end your support to all these dictatorships. It will make us far safer than any aid you might give us.
44. Sarah at #27
Cameron ,   USA   (02.22.11)
That was you in the old, classic mode. "giant glowing cinder" Alas, it does seem an inevitable march in that direction.
45. # 16...my but you are desperate!
Edithann ,   USA   (02.22.11)
What territorial rights and security was Israel ever guaranteed? Yes, those irrelevant words were written by demented Rabbis trying desperatly to hang on to power...What else could they say that would make their frightened followers go out to kill innocents for land...This is the second time..You're just repeating old behavior patterns....but remember how it ended 2500 years ago, as I recall it all ended badly for Jews..and they finally ran away to reap havoc on the rest of the world for centuries.. We began sinking when we supported Israel at the UN..remember? TATA
46. U.S. HAS PULLENTY OF IT'S OWN OIL
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (02.22.11)
Barak Hussein Obama won't allow it to be dug up and brought to the surface, he's banned drilling in Anwar, the Gulf of Mexico and quite a few other locations that are close to the U.S. mainland Bahrain, a main harbor for servicing U.S ships, is really an asset, the people are trying to overthrow the Government Same can be said for Yemen, remember the S.S. Cole ? You seem to be jealous of rich jews, do some work, maybe you can also make some money
47. #11
mark ,   ca   (02.22.11)
"If the Chinese decide they will no longer buy American debt ...". Chinese have no choice but to buy America dept.US is the largest market for Chinese goods and without this market their economy would collapse very soon.Rest of your comments are not worth of response.
48. America is Declining
MA ,   USA   (02.22.11)
Wiil, Who is at fault for the decline of American Power. israel can only blame themselves. They are killing the Golden goose. By over using Aipac for everything now. nytenyaho has refused to stop settlements for three months with billions of dollars in Aid. He made Obama and America look week and ridicules.
49. "The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated"
Zeev   (02.22.11)
50. Israel is fully capable of standing on its two feet
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (02.22.11)
Every nation with a sense of self worth and self respect would insist that it should stand on its two feet. Israel can do that and as far as I understand the people of Israel want to stand on their two feet - with or without American support. Second: America is no "empire" - it doesn't intend to exert control over sovereign states. There are American military bases all over Europe and Asia and I haven't heard that those nations are in a particular hurry to get rid of the Americans. America is an independent and sovereign country - a superpower still, lead by an impotent Moslem Communist who is dragging America's good name through the mud. Obama is weak - America isn't and will recover. No downturn lasts forever. "Empire"? Are you telling me that American puppets are sitting in every Arab and European nation? Even the so called cosy friends such as Mubarak, King Hussein and the Saudis are in essence deeply anti-American and anti-Israeli/anti-Semitic. They are or have maintained at best correct relations as they feared America and were offered economic aid. As the nr 1 talkbacker said, "time for the US to cut off all foreign aid". USA should certainly do so with brutal despots and so called "friends" of America. Make no mistake: neither the population nor the governments of the Moslem world are pro-American - neither the "pro-American" Saudis drowning in US aid or Islamofascists such as Ahmadinejad of Iran. Third, America is not declining. I don't see any state whose economy is even close to the size of the US economy. China is second I believe and does not even represent half - maybe only a third of the US economy. No European nation can compete with the USA in terms of quality and quantity. Japan can't, India can't, Russia can't, Brazil can't and China can't. India, China, Japan have no history of anti-Semitism or Israel hatred. Corrupt politicians in China maintain cosy relations with Arab oil barons to safe guard Chinese industry's oil consumption and harmony in the Chinese economy - that's the only interest the Chinese government has in the Middle East and the Arab states. By contrast, Israel has increased its trade with Japan, India and China and sells high tech to all three. Yaron, may I recommend you to relax, take a sip of a coke and just enjoy life. I understand that you journalists are desperate in creating "new" stories but nervous and meek Jews have been bellyaching about the "end" of the Jewish people for the past 2000 years and Moslems have been bellyaching for the past 1400 years that they hate us and want us dead. What exactly is "new"? What is new is that we have IDF and nukes.
51. it is --- Must-
namera ,   jerusalem   (02.22.11)
first i take care of myselfe my health to be ready to take care of my family then tocare of the big family the country the state at last it is the care of the world usa is from that world .israil is from that world also .but the first is myselfe my family and so on
52. America and us
(02.22.11)
Does anyone really think that giving up all the settlements, the Golan, and half of Jerusalem will bring us peace? The fact is that the Arabs do not want us here at all, not even in Tel Aviv, which they say was built on top of some village of theirs. They do not keep their thoughts secret, they've said all of this out in the open many, many times - especially when they speak in Arabic to their own people. And America has too many of her own huge problems; we can not count on her to always support us.
53. To Flavio, #4, Brazil
Proud Jew ,   Israel   (02.22.11)
What you wrote is very good, but what solutions do you propose?? Giving up the settlements, the Golan, and part of Jerusalem is certainly not the answer, as then we will be an even tinier state than we are now. The Arabs do not want us here at all....that is the whole truth. We have this one miniscule country that you can't even see on the globe, and the Arabs and Muslims have huge amounts of land, but they just can't stand having any Jews here. May G-d help us!!
54. To Ron Paul supporters:
Isaac   (02.22.11)
To the Ron Paul supporters: I live in the South and many of the Ron Paul supporters here had been vocal isolationists and vocal anti-semites. I am not saying he is anti-semitic; nor am I saying all his supporters are. I am saying that you should be careful of where you hang your hat because of the unintended consequences. As for aid or loans, part of being influencial is being able to pull the purse strings.
55. #45 Edith Ann -Your DEMENTIA
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (02.22.11)
Just to clarify a point, the e-mail address I use here is specifically designated only for these forums I don't know what deluded you into "thinking" that it revealed anything other than what I wanted to put forth Now, back to basics, I have asked you several times to back your claims to what you call "Palestine", merely by answering a few relatively easy questions Whatsa matta, having a problem coming up with the answers ? You cast aspersions on Rabbis, while in the name of your Prophet, slaughter is ongoing on a worldwide basis, and the latest is Muslim on Muslim violence, Look at the news, your brothers and fathers are engaged in a revolution & killing frenzy www.therelgiionofpeace.com
56. To: Cameron at No. 44
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.22.11)
The ancient Mayans predicted that the world would come to an end in 2012. Might have something there ....
57. #45 Edithann
solomon ,   bklyn   (02.22.11)
Actually, Israel's territorial rights and security was guaranteed in Resolution 242; Israel was promised secure and defensible borders. It was recognized that the 1948 armistice lines were neither secure nor defensible.
58. Nr 56.
Orao. ,   Srbia.   (02.22.11)
Well - GODs Prophetic Timetable may begin then, called The Endtime - Dan 9 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week; and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. And for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." - The World and the Civilisation will continue to Exist even after that though. Orao. Srbia.
59. To: No. 54
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (02.22.11)
A vote for Ron Paul would be like a vote for David Duke. Paul puts on a veneer of sophistication and makes all the right noises, but what lies underneath is a well-spring of anti-Semitism. I'd go with Huckabee (no great prize) before Ron Paul.
60. Israel grows exponentially stronger while America weakens.
Chaim ,   Israel   (02.22.11)
The author is correct. America is in a state of rapid decline by virtually any criteria in which the health of nations is measured. This is a reality Israel must plan for. It has never been a good idea to rely on American guarantees. Ask Hosni Mubarak. Egypt receives as much American aid as Israel, and is considered America's number one Arab ally. Yet Obama's America threw Mubarak under the bus. Today , it is sheer lunacy to depend on American guarantees. Israel must wean herself off American aid and stop relying on American support. Israel grows exponentially stronger while America weakens.
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