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The price of moderation
Martin Sherman
Published: 06.03.11, 19:13
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31. complete tunnel-vision
Brian (from #2)   (03.07.11)
Mr. Sherman, your humanitarian option is only according to the paradigm by which you have chosen to view the predicament. Your point concerning UNRWA deserves greater consideration as an operational goal for the UN, however everything else is a 'rightists' dream of what would happen if only the Palestinians had no minds. Next time you use statistics - please quote (i) your source, (ii) how many people were 'interviewed', (iii) and how they were sampled.....
32. How people can get involved in the Herculean Labor
The principal lever for turning back the Palestinian ship seems to be: the author's above logical arguments and alternative plans combined with Israel's legal entitlements stemming from the Mandate for Palestine and other documents traced through all subsequent agreements and developments up until the present day. Here is how people can get involved in the Herculean Labor: People who have skills useful in accomplishing this Herculean Labor should join established organizations that already have this as their main mission. Please e-mail me and I can provide a list of such organizations. I do not know if Dr. Martin Sherman also has a group working on this. In any event, all such groups need to team up, for no one person or group can be Hercules in-and-of himself.
33. awful, awful article this = 1 state solution
anat ,   israel   (03.07.11)
Even if Israel controls the entire west bank and incorporates it into its sovereign territory, it would stop being a jewish state in the end because of the high arab birth rate plus the absorbtion of an extra 4 million arabs from the WB... in the end the arabs will take over through the political system
34. Bibi says binational state a disaster..
DaveB ,   Kfar Sava   (03.07.11)
so how does the writer reconcile the negation of a two-station solution with Bibi's statement that a binational state will be a disaster for Israel ?
35. @anat 33 :Jewish demographics up,arab down
Trumpeldor   (03.07.11)
Read Ettinger's reports ! 4 millions arans in WB ?? Where ???? Biggest "arab " city is HEBRON 160.000 people !
36. To # 34 (DaveB) see # 19 How to avert "disaster"
MARTIN SHERMAN   (03.07.11)
To # 34 (DaveB) See # 19 on how to avert "disaster"
37. Pure genius
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (03.07.11)
Bravo Mr. Sherman for distilling the absolute non-ideological pragmatic truth into one sentence. And for those who criticize Sherman, he wrote exactly what Arafat always said: there is no room for two countries, so you must choose a Jewish state or an Arab state.
38. #6 not so clever
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (03.07.11)
What you were trying to write was "Lebensraum", the German term for "living space", and imply that Israel is analogous to the German regime of 1932-1945. That is like saying that because that regime used dogs in their army, any army that has dogs is like that regime. There used to Jews in Czech, but there aren't anymore because you did not want to live with them. I accept that, just like I accept that other European countries and the Arab countries have a problem living with Jews. My solution to the problem is to bring the Jews back to their homeland. What is your solution?
39. Viability is the Palestinians' responsibility
Ehoop ,   UK   (03.07.11)
not Israel's, although Netanyahu support the importance of building the Palestinians' economic institutions, and he is certainly right in that. A viable Palestinian state need not mean Israel's return to Auschwitz borders. Andorra is small, viable and does not feel threatened by France or Spain. Monaco is not threatened by France. There are Vatican City, San Marino and Italy. There is Liechenstein and Switzerland. The Maldives are no larger than they happen to be. Nor is Mauritius. The Palestinians have no legal entitlement to any area that Israel controls. Yet Israel wants to give them the gift of a state. The Palestinians do everything in their power to avoid negotiations and, in doing that, reveal their true intentions. Israel won't collapse however much pressure they apply. If they are genuine about peace, they should get on with it. Some years ago I bought a house. I needed to move in by a certain date. I offered a price to apply for that date, a lower alternative for the month after, and a lower alternative still for the month after that. The seller went for the highest price. With the Palestinians unwilling to negotiate, perhaps some gentle incentivisation along those lines is called for.
40. Simple solution: Pay Arabs to leave Judea/Samaria.
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.07.11)
It's mind boggling that the evil Two State Final Solution ever got off the ground as far as Israelis are concerned. A mere glance at a map is all that is needed to prove it would be suicidal for Israel. Does anybody seriously believe Israel could survive permanently with an 8 mile (15 minute tank ride) waist? The real solution is simple. Pay Arabs to leave Judea and Samaria. Arabs are already leaving Judea and Samaria by the tens of thousands without Israeli compensation. Most have been telling pollsters, for decades, they want to leave. With a fair Israeli compensation package, we could solve the problem completely in a few years. It's win/win for everyone. The Arabs get the new life they want. For Israel, it's a one time investment with permanent returns.
41. # 38
Jarda ,   Czech republic   (03.07.11)
Your solution is not working. Most of Jews don't live in Israel.
42. Two state solution,not a three state solution
Michael ,   NY   (03.07.11)
Its called Jordan, which was the original plan for the partition of Plaestine.
43. I just reread the article referred to by
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (03.07.11)
Professor Sherman #19, an earlier piece appearing in Ynet. It's thinking is out-of-the-box; it's on target; it made sense when I first read it and even more sense now. I strongly urge all Readers to refresh themselves with this article in mind.
44. #41 you are avoiding me
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (03.07.11)
The Czech people are known as brave and don't run away from a challenge, yet you are different. You criticize my solution but refuse to say what your solution is. Don't be ashamed, don't be afraid, no one knows who you are: what is your solution to the Jewish problem?
45. This is already widely known: only lunatics...
EZ ,   US   (03.07.11)
...don't accept the realities behind the article. The lefties refuse to leave their comfort zone and continue to show their true foolishness and closed-mindedness since the truth negates any value of their position: people simply HATE to be wrong and will even support murderers to ensure their opinion is upheld. Today's fanatics and terrorists are the leftists, activists and their funders who support those animals who do their dirty work. The article is very articulate and well researched as well as clearly documented with a wide swath of matching opinions from pragmatic and respectable sources. Only the frenzied mentality of a 'last-ditcher" would assail the realities in this article. That means virtually the entire left: they, more than anyone, are responsible for so much of the worlds woes today. Altruism is natural: stupidity is a choice guided by a lack of wisdom or a huge ego. Enough lunacy already: the world has been prejudice against the Jews for far too long. So glad Israel has nukes: that is the strongest deterrent here and may it always stand.
46. #1 FO. Israel hides proof Judea/Samaria 100% legal.
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.07.11)
#1. You make an excellent point. The Jewish right to build our communities in Judea and Samaria is legally unassailable. Our communities in Judea and Samaria are 100% legal. Calling them "illegal" is pure politics. Not law. Why does Israel hide the proof? We should be shouting it from the roof tops, filling the newspapers and airwaves with it. Our proof is strong enough to convince any open minded person that we are totally correct and that "Palestinians" and their Jew hating supporters are completely wrong.
47. simple - pay Jews to return to US or Europe
Dave Berg ,   usa   (03.08.11)
Since over 20% of all Israelis live abroad anyway, this is an easy solution. First, pay the ones who are obviously living on stolen land and then allow the Palestinians to return to their land.
48. #47. "Palestinian" land no more exists than Oz land.
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.08.11)
#47 Berg. Since there has never been a "Palestine", there is no "Palestinian" land. Nor has Israel ever "stolen" any land. Judea and Samaria are the ancestral heartland of Israel, and have been for thousands of years. "Palestinian" land no more exists than Oz land or Neverland land.
49. #9 PixelatedDwarf or MentalDwarf
Carla ,   NYC   (03.08.11)
The Indians are free to live where they like. The Reservations are their territory where US laws don't apply, but ANY AND ALL INDIANS are US Citizens with ALL THE RIGHTS of Citizenship and Free to live in any City in US.
50. to40 chiam
(03.08.11)
do you think that you can replace evryone head by a box of money ...no sir .. iam sorry to say it is not the solution to palastinians at least
51. THE PRICE OF MODERATION
Simone I. Cohen ,   Winnipeg, Canada   (03.13.11)
Isn't anyone building consensus for annexing ALL of Judea & Sumeria, and then moving all the Arabs over into Jordan? THAT'S where they can lobby for a state, and call it whatever they like. There'll be screaming and ranting at Israel, but what else is new?
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