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Rabbi Wolpo: Fire rubber bullets back at soldiers
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 08.03.11, 00:22
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31. I dont get it
BJL ,   usa   (03.08.11)
The evil is surrounding Israel on all sides and Israel gets tough on its own people? Annex Judea and Samaria before it is too late.
32. foolish Rabbis
Joel ,   OSSINING   (03.08.11)
It seems that this rabbis have learned nothing nothing about history. I guess if the area is returned they will be the first ones to cry for the IDF to protect them. I would suggest that the the ayotollas, the radical imans and radical rabbis should all be locked up in a roon and fight it out and leave us out of their mishugas. The world would be better without them. They poison real religion.
33. Irresponsible.
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (03.08.11)
This man is irresponsible. He should be ignored.
34. Irresponsible Rabbi! Fanatic.
EZ ,   US   (03.08.11)
To encourage violence against fellow Jews, regardless of what the IDF has done (everyone is held accountable at some point) this man has just shown sanity he is it's enemy. Fanatics are fanatics: left or right....Israel needs neither! Toss this man in jail for incitement and let the settlers find a sophisticated and intelligent leader who'll use his cup and not emotions. What a horrible thing this "Rabbi"'has done. Shame on him.
35. Misinformation & highly dangerous talk
David ,   Shiloh Israel   (03.08.11)
I am passionate about the need to maintain a Jewish presence in our ancient homeland, which includes Judea & Somaria. However, I am equally passionate about the need to work towards a unified Jewish nation. Only when we have such unity can we fully embark upon a road that will bring peace to our Arab neighbors, be it through military intervention or hopefully by friendly means. A nation at war with itself is not able to simultaneously offer peace elsewhere. Accordingly, those on the far left that are more focused on building a Palestinian state rather than realizing a unified Jewish one, defeat their own agenda in the process of spewing hatred towards the settlement movement. The same is true of the far right who fail to understand the underlying concerns of the 'sincere' left, who basically wish to create an environment of peace...who doesn't? This rabbi fails to mention the thousands of hayillim living in settlements themselves, that have taken an oath of loyalty to serve the IDF. Why fight them? Any protest should be aimed at the government, we have a process to do that, only it takes the art of persuasion to succeed. One needs to understand the rationale of those one speaks to, this rabbi obviously doesn't. The only outcome of such dangerous words can be similiar sentiments against settlers. Let me say it clear, this rabbi does not talk for the majority of settlers. I also hope that hatred filled leftists don't talk for the majority of genuine socialists, when they embrace the concept of civil war. The IDF & other security apparatus should not be used for political purposes, that goes for rabbis as well as the government!
36. Rabbi Wolpo: Fire rubber bullets back at soldiers
Amram Yosef ,   San Francisco, USA   (03.08.11)
What kind of insanity are we talking about. Violent resistance against our own solders? We can protest and elect different leaders. We can and should use the legal system to seek redress. But I sincerely believe that it would be disastrous to Am Israel to lift our hand against our brothers.
37. Illegal govt. acts against"Human Rights residences"
sam ,   USA   (03.08.11)
38. Disgusting
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.08.11)
Two things are especially disgusting; 1. The twisting of the circumstances to the end that the Israeli government causes these confrontations. That smacks of the lies the arabs spout all the time; that Israel is the cause of all the problems. 2. The self-comparison of 'settlers' to the conditions of the Shoa and Jews against the Nazis. The arabs continually lie and compare Israel to the Nazis. 3. So don't complain when people start seeing you in the same terms as they do the arab countries that are trying to destroy Israel.
39. dont use the IDF to do the dirty work get private security
zionist forever   (03.08.11)
It is wrong to ask the IDF to be involved in uprooting settlers. They are soldiers not removals men. I remember watching the Gaza evacuation you could se soldiers crying as they were forcing people to leave their homes. At the same time make sure all the TV cameras go along for the world press to understand that removing settlements isn't as black and white as they seem to think.
40. Leadership Needed, apply at Knesset
Yakov ,   Tel Aviv   (03.08.11)
No joke here! We see a constant stream of Jewish leaders (Rabbi's and others) misusing their trust, and damaging Israel, damaging Israeli's and damaging Judaism. This is just another example. What's needed? Effective leadership. These outlaw Rabbi's needto stop. Their agenda is selfish and destructive. This is where our elected officials need to intervene, and provide effective leadership. It will be unpopular with many, but this is the charge of leadership. Populist leaders are not what we need.
41. Treason
Golani ,   and pround of it   (03.08.11)
That should be enough to put that man even if he a rabbi to jail no Israli can shoot at IDF soldiers. Those make me a shame being Jew and Israeli
42. Safe in Florida
## Marcel Florida ,   Israel   (03.08.11)
Why dont you comme to the West Bank, and fight ours soldiers your self. Please do so, remember to use a red cap so I recognize you... Because people like you, fare away from the reality on the ground, we have been in war the last 20 years with the Palestinians...
43. Rabbi WolpoDafiNejad
Maxime Love Israel ,   ISRAEL / USA   (03.08.11)
Would like to start a civil war between brothers in our tiny little Israel. Crazy! just plain crazy!!! This will make the Arab world very happy.
44. @ Golani, #41 - Treasonous Rabbis...
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.08.11)
...And what about treasonous soldiers? From Ynet report http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4035338,00.html Soldiers and police are not supposed to be masked , they must have id tags to #1 show they are indeed soldiers or police and #2 so that they can be held accountable if they violate the law. When they are masked and have no name-tags one can probably assume they are ganovim or Hamasniks and shoot them in self defense with live ammunition to send a message to those who send them to stop this abhorrent practice. A soldier must know that not every order is legal or moral. A soldier must know that an order to put on a mask and uniform with no name tags in itself shows they are being sent to violate human rights of their fellow citizens and as they are not identifiable as soldiers their fellow citizens may shoot them in self defense as common thieves in night. -- When a soldier goes rogue, or a division, or even the Defense Minister - the soldier no longer serves the Jewish nation and does not represent the IDF of Democratic Israel. Legal citizens have the right to take action and protect their own lives against criminals who put them in peril. Process that.
45. Good for him. Seculars like Avi: Live and let live,
Jordan ,   Is, Palestine   (03.08.11)
the other option is stupid for everyone. The fact is that both secular society and religion needs transformation, they both need each other, and both have issues to work out.
46. He does NOT Speak for Religous Jews Or Settlers
JM ,   Israel   (03.08.11)
As a religious Jew and one-time "Settler" - one who STRONGLY supports our right to every inch of Yesha - I STRONGLY condemn the words of Rabbi Wolpe and suggest he be investigated and even jailed right away. No matter how wrong the government may be in how they use the army and police against our own brothers, there is NO ROOM WHATSOEVER for violence against our army or police. Jew VS Jew violence must NEVER happen !!!!!!
47. Volpo is an a-hole. He does nothing except incite!
John ,   Europe   (03.08.11)
And yes, this is my attitude.
48. human rights
chaim Sheiner ,   Israel   (03.08.11)
right on rabbi Wolpo! after all the contributions Jews have made to civilization there shouldn't be anywhere in the world they cant live certainly they should be allowed to live in the land of their forfathers! I agree with you 100% that they should use the same weapons against those coming to evict them as is being used against them
49. havat Gilad
ester ,   Melba   (03.08.11)
Just ... wait, Havat Gilad is a private land correct...??? the owner gave the land to the people... correct... so why the police have the goal to be there...PRIVATE LAND CAPICCE!!! YES the way they are being treated, if it was me, i would through stone too. Why they don't do the same act in an Arab Village..... Too scared...
50. Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out!
Nick ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (03.08.11)
51. arrest rabbi for incitement
miriam ,   ashdod   (03.08.11)
52. Arrest him!
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.08.11)
This so-called rabbi should be arrested for incitement.
53. #1
Shlomo Kamera   (03.08.11)
Yes and for Palestinians too!
54. Rav Wolpe, please don't help us!
Zvi Ben Mordechai ,   Maaleh Adumim   (03.08.11)
As someone who proudly lives in the largest Jewish Community in Yesha, I tell Rav Wolpe: Extremists like you give a good cause a bad name. Please, we don't need your help! Perhaps we ought not to be surprised that someone who holds to extremist religious views (i.e. he reveres a dead man as Mashiach) should also hold to such extremist political views?
55. Jews have a right to live in Eretz Yisrael
Chaya ,   Tel-Aviv, ISRAEL   (03.08.11)
When anyone claims (or thinks) that a Jew does NOT have a right to live on some part of the Land of Israel then that person is DENYING our G-d given rights, in essense is denying G-d Himself Who gave the People of Israel our Forefather this beautiful Land. Many of the comments before this do not put the blame for the Havat Gilad incident on the Minister of Defense who ordered these soldiers to shoot settlers; that was the order for beginning a civil war, that was the first shot -from Min.Def. Ehud Barak, and HE is who to blame for starting and escalating the attacks on Jews who just happen to live in certain areas and not in other areas, all within the Land of Israel. Rabbi Wolpe's response is a VALID response when "our" soldiers(indeed these soldiers are from ALL walks of life in Israel, including those living in the Judea/Shomron area) are given ILLEGAL ORDERS which are AGAINST a Jewish Code of Ethics - of inciting to murder Jewuish settlers (or any Jews for that matter). It is bad enough that Ehud Barak is attacking Jewish citizens - but even worse, the "legalization" of areas such as Havat Gilad are waiting for the FINAL level of "legalization" - a stamp of approval - WHICH IS IN THE HANDS OF Ehud Barak. So, Ehud Barak has a "Conflict of Interest" position: he is both the address for APPROVING new villages in Judea and the Shomron, and for DEMOLISHING them. Our State MUST DIVIDE these two opposing positions which are upon one person - Ehud Barak.
56. honerable rabbis don't tell jews to fire at jewish soldiers
zionist forever   (03.08.11)
57. Honorable Statesmen Don't Let Jewish Soldiers Fire at Jews
Orly ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.08.11)
58. HIGH TREASON
Adam ,   USA   (03.08.11)
What this ridiculous "Rabbi" does not understand is that this is a political game Israel must play. To forge relationships with big nations it does not help to incite civil war and violence among your own people. He should be imprisoned for HIGH TREASON. If evacuating a settlement is the only way to keep alliances and protect the security of Israel, it must be done. As I understand it, these ultra religious hypocrites don't work, nor do they fight in the military, instead they feed off of the government and study Talmud. Since this rabbi believes the Israeli army and leaders are no different than Palestinians, he should lose his citizenship and be deported to Gaza! If not for the Israel army, he would have been killed long ago, how dare he complain about rubber bullets! What do he Iranians shoot at their people? Such men like this are a small minority.
59. Wolpo is a traitor, against Israel, and only helps the Pals
Reb L Yell ,   Carmiel, Israel   (03.08.11)
It's a war of public relations, and he's helping us lose. He's against the whole world and forgets that the only thing standing between the squatters and the Arab world is the IDF.
60. #58 Adam - your comments are based on WRONG INFO.
Chaya ,   Tel-Aviv, ISRAEL   (03.08.11)
You wrote "If evacuating a settlement is the only way to keep alliances and protect the security of Israel," this is FALSE. Evacuation of any Jewish-lived place in the Land of Israel DEMINISHES the national strength both physically and spiritually of our Land and our people. DEMOLITION DEMINISHES. You wrote that [Rav Wolpe] doesn't work - opposite: he works tirelessly (and this as without recompense) to help Klal Yisrael. Also, not everyone is FIT to be a soldier, just as if everyone is a busdriver there are no passengers. Also you are against studying Talmud? Why? Too Jewish? You wrote "this rabbi believes the Israeli army and leaders are no different than Palestinians": ABSOLUTELY FALSE. Rabbi Wolpe loves all of the Jews, we are certainly different than the non-Jews as this is our G-d-given Land. The Rabbi is a citizen and is trying to DEFEND all Jewish citizens of Israel. You wrote: "If not for the Israel army, he would have been killed long ago, how dare he complain about rubber bullets!" a) You justify using rubber bullets against unarmed CITIZENS! Against tiny children woken up at 3am viciously! Against mothers! How DARE you. b) You really think that the G-d of Israel isn't protecting His People here, after so many times that our officers refused to let soldiers fight against Arabs throwing deadly boulders??? Why do you write about Iranians, bringing a topic into the discussion not connected in any way, if only to justify your warped thinking. Adam - You are misinformed about what is going on in Israel, twist the truth and laugh at your fellow Jews.
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