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EJC: European attitudes 'deeply disturbing'
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Published: 20.03.11, 07:23
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1. Facts
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (03.20.11)
It's quiet a fact that some of us actually use the Shoah for their political agenda ! There's nothing wrong about this statment, since it's true. We too often play the "victimization card" and people aren't fool, they obviously understood it a while ago !
2. Lieberman can fix your broken P.R machine ; )
Salma ,   Palestine   (03.20.11)
I'm Not Anti-Semitic--I'm Just Anti-"Israel"...... Don't you dare call me an anti- Semite! Don't you dare.......the Palestinians are a semitic people.
3. hypocrites and stupid as well....
Yael ,   Israel   (03.20.11)
So it bothers them that Jews use the holocaust to remind the world of their victimization?? But for some odd reason they are not disturbed by the Arabs whining about their victimization at the hands of Israel for 60 years. Oh no!! That is a "legitimate" victimization, but 2000 years of Jewish oppression culminating in a mass murder operation is negligible. That is why we are treated amongst the nations in precisely the same manner that Jews were treated thru the centuries. Demonized and dehumanized and blamed for the ills of the universe. Suck it up folks!
4. murder and inherit
ryddi ,   jerusalem   (03.20.11)
those were perpetrators of the Holocaust or their willing helpers now they want to keep property they rob.
5. Typical reaction
bob ,   TA   (03.20.11)
EJC and other pro-Israeli lobbyies: Instead of showing "shock" at world reations, try once to think critically of ISRAELI ACTIONS. When former British Ambassador in TA was leaving his post last year, he was clear: "We are not interested in you hasbara, rather in your actions". Wake up, before you kill another thousand "terrorists" in Gaza or build another thousand settler homes in West Bank. THIS is what makes people sick of Israel.
6. Polls conducted
Ralph ,   Caesarea   (03.20.11)
in muslim areas
7. Terrible.
noa ,   israel   (03.20.11)
But if there was any way to deny the role as actively participating in the most heinous crimes in world history (and there have been some big ones), what an opportunity for these countries, by turning the victim into an agressor who deserved it. We must actively fight such escapes.
8. Salma, always a pleasure talking to an idiot.
noa ,   israel   (03.20.11)
Salma, over half the Jews in the world live in Israel.
9. Playing the victim card
Jacob Erickson ,   Holon, Israel   (03.20.11)
I do think a lot of politicians play the holocaust card a bit too much, there are plenty of more convincing arguments to use, and I think overusing the victim card is much of the reason why not as many people like us.
10. 80% of the Israelis and 100% of all the
di   (03.20.11)
Jews in the world strongly believe that the greatest majority of the Germans, Poles and Hungarians took willful advantage, misused and abused the Jews all through the history. With such a "fine" anti-Semitic tradition no wonder there are still lots and lots in these countries (and others) who contemplate the same hatred against the Jews under the umbrella of anti-Israeli, anti-Zionist fight. The only thing unclear and incomprehensible to me is why waste money and energy on something that goes without saying !?
11. Yes, Salma, you may be some sort of
(03.20.11)
Semite but you are surely a certified Jew hater ! Your blogs obviously qualify you as one !
12. Jews are the victims of what the world is doing to us.
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.20.11)
13. So Israeli from Russia German Poland Hungaria ..
Samy ,   Palestine   (03.20.11)
can mistreat Palestinians and take their homes?
14. Anti-semitism
R ,   Israel   (03.20.11)
Anti-semitism never died, it just became temporarily not "politically correct", and is now dressed in the costume of anti-Zionism or anti-Israelism. Since the majority of the Germans, Poles, and Hungarians were willing participants in the murder and obliteration of European Jews, the survey is not at all surprising. The writing is on the wall, as it has always been to those who can read: We can count only on ourselves. Israel is our only refuge. In light of the hostile outside world, the Palestinian PR machine, and the depedence upon the oil of the Arab countries, we are left no choice but to arm ourselves to the teeth and remain prepared to defend ourselves.
15. Holocaust Big Business
EM ,   Ra'anana   (03.20.11)
Sad but TRUE! Starting with the lawyers who charged exhorbitant fees to help the real victims get payments from Germany. Move on to Israel government agencies that took the restitution payments from physically/mentally unstable victims while 'sheltering' them in pathetic, unsuitable, understaffed, 'homes'. We know about these agencies and people who have turned the holocaust into a big business opportunity...so why are we so upset that other people are aware of it?
16. 2 You're misojudaic! And that's anti-Biblical!
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (03.20.11)
It also means that you're entire religion and philosophy is built on a lie. There is no other historical basis beside the Bible for your connection to Avraham and Yishmaeil or Esau the Edomite. Yet, if you accept that the Bible is true then the Bible defines your Quran and Islam and a displacement theology; invalid, illegitimate and false. On the other hand, if you hold, instead, that the Bible is unreliable then you're no different from the atheists: your entire religion and philosophy is predicated on a false premise and, therefore, ex falso quodlibet. Either way, your religion and philosophy is demonstrably false and your "prophet" Muhammad is false. Like the displacement theology of Christianity (and some baser elements of Judaism), it's a religion dependent on ignorance. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Torah-reverer Jew: Teimani, Baladi, Dor Dai Advocate for Logic as Hermeneutic Halakhic Authority Welcoming all who choose to keep Torah (When questions to me go unanswered, they have refused to post it. Find our reply in our Web Café at www.netzarim.co.il)
17. #8 for me, it's not a pleasure to talk to a settler.
Salma ,   Palestine   (03.20.11)
18. The Jews 'USING the holocaust.....
tiki ,   belgium   (03.20.11)
What about those Gentiles USING the lies of the 'so called killing of Jesus' by the Jews for CENTURIES of Progroms, blind Jew hate and Holocaust? Those polls are totally irrelevant because WE KNOW the truth. These Europeans are the same Anti Semites USING the Anti Zionist Mantra, trying to wash away their own guilty contious for the MURDER of' 6 million innocent Jews, for the only reason of being Jews. And as it appears, THEY havn't learned a thing, because if Israel/Jews wouldn't USE these true realities of the past, they would gladly repeat it all over again in the present, "finish the job" so to speak. So YES, Jews use the past as a (much needed) warning, and NO the Europeans can NEVER wash away their guilt, it will always be a stain on their 'otherwise o so clean blazon?
19. Poor .. pooor ..babies
Jack   (03.20.11)
20.  # 18- Who did it then?
Brod ,   USA   (03.20.11)
21. # 2 You are a certified idiot
Joanna ,   California   (03.20.11)
...but as the saying goes, don't teach a pig how to dance, the pig won't enjoy it and you will end up covered in mud. By the way, why do you insist on reading an Israeli publication? Your Arabic daily rags aren't satisfying your needs to spew your hatred ?
22. Poles are profitting off Katyn
Dan Kelso   (03.20.11)
I wonder how Poland would react to that if 72% of Jews believed that. What this poll proves is how stupid left wing Jews are for wanting a 1 state solution.
23. Oi gevalt...this is disturbing
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (03.20.11)
I guess we'd better start thinking about getting our tushes back to Eretz sooner than later...
24. It appears that Ynet likes to keep
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.20.11)
their postings to a 6rd grade level intellect. So everyone can remain comfortable in their 'Media conspired' distorted reality. Except for Leftists everyone knows exactly what an anti-Semite is and why, but Ynet would never print that.
25. No root in reality
Rune F ,   Oslo Norway   (03.20.11)
It has no root in reality that Jews try to take advantage of having been victims during the Nazi era .Is it the media lies that make people so blind?
26. What do you expect?
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (03.20.11)
The Israeli Left, starting with the likes of Yeshayahu Leibowitz, continuously say that Israel is a fascist regime no different than Germany in the 1930s. If that is what Israeli Jews say, what do you expect from the Poles and Hungarians?
27. why should the palestinian pay the price
one ,   World   (03.20.11)
for something , they have nothing to do with. The Europian treat you badly for 2000 years not the palestinian!
28. This is our problem
Esteban ,   Argentina   (03.20.11)
Our problem is that we are too few. If Jews were 1.500 million in the world instead of 11 million, then nobody would dare to offend us. We are an easy target and Israel is too soft with the enemies at the world foreign press.
29. @27 Because Eastern Palestine is for "palestinians"
Trumpeldor   (03.20.11)
whereas Western Palestine is for Jews only In case of disagreement, you google 1920 San Remo International conference still binding and valid chapters ! Thanks
30. European poll
Bob ,   New jersey. Usa   (03.20.11)
Europes final reward for their mistreatment of jews will become Muslim states.
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