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Our claim to the land
Yoel Meltzer
Published: 01.04.11, 16:17
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31. Kofi Annan: 'How can the whole world err in this question'?
Jouko ,   Kuopio, Finland   (04.02.11)
UN chief Kofi Annan said about the Israeli -dispute that 'the whole world cannot err in this land question'. But the amazing thing is that God Himself will carry out His promises to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. We will see the land to reach from the Egyptian river to the Great river Eufrat! (GEN 15:18)
32. Given by God
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (04.02.11)
Even God has no right to give away other peoples land,Israel belongs to the Jews because thats the place where Jewish History and civilization was born,and even a more important reason,Israel was virtually created by Jews,clearing swamps,conquering the desert,turning rocky hills into orchards,can any member of the muslim brotherhood in Islamiah or Euro islamia point to a Jewish willage,town,taken away from arabs at gun point,prior to the arab attack on Israel May 15.48 ?.all the land owned by Jews was purchased from arabs with good money,the mufti,General of the ss,amin von huseini,admited that Jews are purchasing land legally,the irony is, that today,Egypt,Jordan,Syria,enemies of Israel,would like to see Israel strong and rich,as a young Egyptian said in 79 :now we will have a European country as a neighbor,in the past Israel saved Jordan from syria,today Israel will have to save Syria from the crazy alla huachbar muslims,strange world.
33. Being strong,best argument.
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (04.02.11)
With G-Ds help.
34. Israel has EARNED it's place in the world.
solomon ,   bklyn   (04.02.11)
We cannot convince the world through religion. There are too many with too many different points of view. The only common denominator is the law. First, read #17, #19, #20- all good points. Next: 1. Yes, we were there first. If you don't believe in pronouncements by G-d, then take it as a history book; proven by archeology. 2. We have always been there. Not always in control, but Jews always lived there. 3. During the first alyot, Jews bought almost worthless land for exhorbitant prices. 4. They cleared the land, started a life, and tried to co-exist with the arabs: dressed like them, learned arabic, etc. 5. Many, not all, arabs didn't like so many Jews there and started pogroms. 6. The Jews defended themselves. 7. The UN decided on partition. (Again, see TB's noted above for legal stuff) 8. The Jews agreed, even though it wasn't all they wanted. 9. The arabs did not agree, and attacked. 10. The Jews won, improved the land, resettled immigrants, Shoah survivors and escapees from arab lands. 11. Sinai Campaign (Egypt tried to strangle Israel), Fedayeen, Six-Day War, Yom Kippur War (Israel was almost defeated/annihilated), Lebanon 1&2, Cast Lead, etc.----all because of arab attacks and threats, all won by Israel. 12. Israel has EARNED it's right to stand as a nation with all territory now under it's control! I have been saying all this for years, and now am finding out that not everyone has been noting this (for me) obvious point.
35. The backbone of Israel lies in the
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (04.02.11)
Yeshuvim east of the Green Line. The people devoutly believe in our ancient heritage, in our rights to dwell where once our prophets walked, in our IDF and in our belief that we not only should but that we possess the capabilities of defending ourselves. This is borne out by the high proportion of the Yeshuvem in the IDF as well as the sacrifices made by the civilian population in residing here in the face of government vacillations.
36. #18
J ,   USA   (04.02.11)
Thank you so much! G_d bless you.
37. #18 & #36
Cerita ,   USA   (04.03.11)
Yes and Amen.
38. Israel's Land
Rev. M. A. Divine ,   Lake City, FL USA   (04.03.11)
Right on! It does not matter what any man says, The Word of God, The Bible, declares that God gave the land to Israel! That is absolute truth! If someone doesn't like it, that's just too bad! Go ahead and try to disprove it! Show us all your facts!
39. #5, Jack's Fantasy
Howard Immanuelson ,   US   (04.03.11)
Jack, If you'd bothered to follow up on your own asinine point, you'd find that DNA sampling of Jews HAS been done and unsurprisingly the DNA pointed to common ME ancestors. Then again, you seem to lost to your hatred and anti-Semitism so I'm sure you could never be convinced.
40. Re Howard's comment, #39:
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (04.03.11)
A huge DNA study was carried out by Ostrer et al 2010 and it was found that the DNA of Ashkenazi Jews (European) and Sephardic Jews (North African and Mideastern) were identified at a scientific level of sufficient significance to conclude that the two groups of Jews were related to one another.
41. To the various talk-backers
Yoel Meltzer ,   Israel   (04.03.11)
Thank you for the many thoughtful comments. The following are a few clarifications: 1) I agree that we can promote our connection to the land via history, law, etc, etc. However, at the end of the day it comes down to God and faith. There's a good chance things are going to get more difficult here in the coming years so unless you really believe that God gave us this land and that we’re here for a larger purpose it will be increasingly difficult to hold on. 2) Also, I'm not trying to convince the world with the "God argument" but rather trying to get my own people to wake up! We need to convince ourselves of our right to the land before we can convince the world. Obviously I welcome support from non-Jewish talk-backers and it's very, very appreciated but my main goal is to get my own people to start thinking. For years we've been heading down a dangerous path because we're stuck in a certain way of thinking with a flawed mindset. This needs to be changed. If anyone is interested in further discussion or additional articles, you're welcome to come visit my new blog at http://yoelmeltzer.com/.
42. Israel was attacked the Arabs lost
Zev ,   Israel   (04.03.11)
That's enough without all of the other facts showing this land belongs to the Jews. Throughout history that was enough for borders to change and countries established. Had Israel lost, the world would have been silent when the Arabs took over. Why is it different when the Jews win???
43. DNA
Jack g ,   Us   (04.03.11)
Pity we have already done thet DNA test. 70% of Jewish y-chromosomes are genetically identical to 50% of the Palestinian y-chromosome (having a genetic drift of 2000 or so years) with another 30% of the Palestinian y-chromosome being closely related ( having a 2500 year genetic separation indicated by drift). To put it simply, Both diaspora Jews and Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Israelites. It is written in their DNA. We are just to ignorant to grasp the significance. I suppose you will continue the fratricide. How sad. To review the actual data, google "Palestinian Jew y-chromosome" and search for research reported by Hebrew university. They did a broad genetic data acquisition years ago and have been crunching the numbers ever since. Some of the analysis discuss all kinds of different jewish and nonjewish groups. Please note that since the Palestinians were the population that stayed, they are related to a broader spectrum than any others. That is, the diaspora was taken from their genetic pool as were the lost tribes. Cool data but the results don't really support either sides story.
44. Question
Saul ,   country   (04.03.11)
#43 Can you please inform us of the racial demographics of the ancient world lets say from1900BC to 586BC. You the DNA man, please explain to us as described in the Bible and the Torah the way these people characterized themselves.
45. Historical and Archeological facts...
Patrick ,   Texas   (04.05.11)
... rest on the side of the Jewish state. There never was a Palestine (in a historical or biblical sense) nor is there ANY archeological evidence linking ANY people to Israel, other than the Jewish people. Besides, I do not see any Arab states offereing up any of their property to help their poor, vicitimized, "Palestinian" brothers and sisters. I agree, you got it, possess it, own it, and you deserve to rule it.
46. Land of Our Inheritance
Doug ,   Layton Utah, USA   (04.06.11)
It's clear that the God of Israel gave the land to Jacob, took it away from Jacob, and will give it back to Jacob. It's been clear from the writings of the prophets for 1000's of years. Esau rejoiced over Jacob's calamity and the God of Israel will answer it upon their heads, as described by Obadiah. In doing so, he will bare the arm of his power in the eyes of all the nations!
47. His Chosen people, Israel
Bill ,   Spring Lake, U.S.A.   (04.08.11)
It is the unwavering belief that the Land of Israel was given to the Jewish people by God. Now what and who is larger then our Heavenly Father, no Nation, no government has such authority or power. The United States stand with Israel and His chosen people, for His Will, His Will, will be done. Not the will of mankind or any foreign nation, but the Will of G-d. The Holy Bible, His Holy Spiritual inspired words are promises made to the Jewish people. G-d does not break promises, only mankind. May our Heavenly Father with His Holy Shield protect and defend the Nation of Israel against all those who wishes Israel harm. From Millions of Christian Americans you are not alone, we stand with you against all hate and killings of innocent Jewish families and children. Shalom,
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