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Ex-MI6 chief: We kept intel from Israel
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Published: 31.03.11, 16:02
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1. the Brits...
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (03.31.11)
Anyone who has read some of the history regarding the two faced-ness of the British in dealing with Israel, will not need this article. Britain has long loathed our country and our people. Perhaps it is they who can not be trusted!
2. Double faces Brits
(03.31.11)
Israel should not share any information with the Brits.
3. From the guys who traded the Lockerbie killer for oil
David ,   Israel   (03.31.11)
This, from the Brits who traded the Lockerbie killer for oil contracts. There is no end to British hypocrisy.
4. Dearllove would be better named Disgusting Hate
Jay   (03.31.11)
British hypocrites, condemning Israel at every turn - may you continue the glug down the toilet of history at an ever more rapid pace
5. brits the hypocrites
izzie irgun ,   usa   (03.31.11)
The confessions of M16's former leader just goes to show that the Brits are no friends of Israel. They intentionally kept data from israel because they knew it was actionable and instead choose to protect their terrorists friends. Even now he admits that the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization and we still have Cameron running around talking about a democracy in Egypt.It is now obvious that the brits brains have turned to mush ever since they were taken over by muslim imiigrants. They have lost their british identity and have become another two bit multicultural state that clings its former role as a world leader but is now a door mat.
6. I hope Mossad is similarly restricting intel to UK
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (03.31.11)
After all, we don't know how the intelligence would be used by the UK. Nothing Sir Richard says surprises, as the UK has a long history of betraying their obligations to those in the Jewish homeland. It's still not safe for Israelis to travel there because the UK has yet to fulfill their latest promises.
7. "But it is at heart, in my view, a terrorist organization,"
Galut ,   Selah   (03.31.11)
that says a lot ...about the Muslim Brotherhood seems like everyone else is being politcaly correct and playing that down.
8. This Mi6 chief
Moshe ,   No consequence   (03.31.11)
can't be serious.He screened intelligence from an ally because he might not like what use Israel put that intelligence to? i think it's a case of jealousy. What he admires is Israel's effevtivenes but can't achieve that level in his "correctly british agency."
9. the best way into a brit's heart is...
oferdesade ,   israel   (03.31.11)
through his butt. obviously this is a crass generalization. but name 3 things they've given us (a brit will say a state, democracy... but we have that in spite of them, and if it wasnt for the jews, we'd be like india)
10. Tku 4 nothing !!!!!!!!!!
bobpulga ,   Rio de Janeiro   (03.31.11)
11. Brits and France
David ,   Tlse, F   (03.31.11)
I am always puzzled by the Israeli 's complaisance towards UK. They don't seem to realize that France is in essence more friendly and understanding wrt Israel that any UK governement will be (Even with guys like Chirac). Even le Monde is less anti Israeli that the Guardian.
12. Different Rules
Jacob Erickson ,   Holon, Israel   (03.31.11)
We play by different rules because we play a different game.
13. and this is why no doubt mossad did the same
ralph   (03.31.11)
14. Sir as your very own Princess Royale would say:
Violet ,   of Israel   (03.31.11)
"Oh for goodness sakes, Do go Naff off!"
15. Cheeky bugger!
(03.31.11)
16. A reminder.
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (03.31.11)
The Americans never really trusted the Brits, and they knew why. Remember Kim Philby and his associates.Some things never change.
17. Brits are the enemy
Ralph levy ,   USA   (03.31.11)
The Brits should be considered the enemy by israel and treated as such. Mi6 spies on israel through Israeli left wing groups and possibly politions. I would sooner trust the Russians with the security of israel and the jewish people. By the way why was Peres there?
18. MI6 isn't there to protect British interests, not Israeli
Pro-Israel Brit ,   Britain   (03.31.11)
MI6 withheld intelligence from Israel simply because it was in their interests to do so. It was well-known that Meir Dagan was insane and presumably considered not fitted to be entrusted with sensitive intelligence by any astute intelligence agency. Most likely they didn't want the cover of undercover agents blown by Dagan's sledgehammer approach to eliminating threats. Do stop taking this all so personally.
19. Refusal of MI6 to employ Jews
stuart ,   Netanya   (03.31.11)
According to the authorised history of MI6 they reused to hire jews from the lte 1940's to 1970's-this despite the major contribution of Victor Rothchild. Also London was an open haven for arab terrorists until 7/7- "with friends like this etc."
20. Every intelligence agency holds things back from others
Zvi   (03.31.11)
even if they are friends. The US and UK hold info back from each other, too, though probably not as much. The fewer people know a secret (think wikileaks), the less likely it is to be discovered by potential enemies. At least Dearlove is being honest about the policy rather than mouthing platitudes about the nonexistent "unshakeable relationship" between Britain and Israel. The comment that the Israelis play by a different set of rules is probably true too. Israel plays by a set of rules based on the need for survival in a rough neighborhood. The Brits play by a set of rules based on the UK's status as a once-great but fading European power that is not the target of nearby genocidal enemies other than the local terrorist sort. The Israelis also play by a set of ethics rules that are far more stringent than any with which the UK government is required to comply. So Dearlove need not sound so "snooty" about Israel's rules. If the British are holding back information that they think will cost Israeli lives, however, that's a pretty serious statement about the deeply untrustworthy nature of the British government and particularly its intelligence agencies.
21. Brits
james ,   uk/il   (03.31.11)
We just hate to call a spade a spade....sorry but well mmmmm oh! sorrry ,please,excuse me,thank you is most important.... the truth we do not wish to hear.....sorry but ive moved to Israel where a spade is a bloody spade!
22. @9
Smith ,   TA, Israel   (03.31.11)
1. The foundation of Israeli laws (most are based on the British Mandate laws) 2. The Balfour Declaration 3. The rail network I can go on if you like.....
23. You think MI6 is unique?
Smith ,   TA, Israel   (03.31.11)
I'm fairly certain that the CIA withholds intel from Israel, as do other allies of our like the British. Let's not forget a certain Jonathan Pollard who if he had been caught during G.H.W. Bush's presidency would have really landed us in trouble; we were lucky Reagan was president at the time. Also after the Dubai affair it is likely that the Australians and Germans will be withholding a lot of intel from us. This is international politics and this is espionage. The Americans withhold intel from the Brits and the Brits withhold intel from the Americans. There is nothing new here to read
24. M16
assaf ,   tel aviv israel   (03.31.11)
Thank G-d Israel plays by a different set of rules:I entirely agree with Moshe - smacks of jealousy - if I had a shekel for everytime M16 have screwed up I would be a millionaire
25. fake passports
yigal ,   north   (03.31.11)
the British were appauled by the use of fake passports by Israeli agents. So much, that they used them themselves Captured SAS unit: Libyan rebels release special forces team ... I wonder what the South Africans got to say about this..
26. To Pro-Israel Brit. Please explain your claim.
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (03.31.11)
The Brit writes, "It was well-known that Meir Dagan was insane and presumably considered not fitted to be entrusted with sensitive intelligence by any astute intelligence agency." That's patent nonsense. Dagan is widely regarded as perhaps the best Mossad leader *ever*. Even some of Israel's enemies referred to him as Superman for his successes, only a few of which we're aware of. No one lasts eight years in such a post if he's "insane".
27. Of course
Shmuel ,   Au   (03.31.11)
Intel supplied by Pollard was passed by Israel to the Soviets resulting in many US agents deaths...just one of the many reasons info is not shared.
28. and i am sure the Mossad kept stuff from MI6
Danny   (03.31.11)
29. #6 Raymond Don't Hold Your Breath
Brazen   (03.31.11)
for the stiff neck brits to fullfill their promises. Allegedly Winston Churchel Had an Idea about hittler's plan?
30. silly sense of superiority dissolves in face of historical..
dante ,   uk   (03.31.11)
dearlove's silly and arrogant sense of superiority dissolves in the face of the historical record. think about british crimes in ghana, uganda, kenya, WHEN THE EXISTENCE OF UK WAS NOT THREATENED or british crimes during the WWII.
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