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Grad rocket fired at Ashkelon; mortars hit western Negev
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Published: 10.04.11, 13:57
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1. dont fire at us and we wont fire back
pini   (04.10.11)
2. A word has no value in Muslim Arab culture. It is time
JBI ,   Israel   (04.10.11)
we all realized it. Cease fire means the time passed from one firing to the next.
3. Hamas needs to be toppled.
Jonathan   (04.10.11)
Whatever it takes. And regarding the fact that it has been 'elected' by the people - I hold the people responsible for it !
4. MORE HAMAS LIES
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (04.10.11)
Why is anybody talking about a ceasefire? When none exists, what LULL? So if Hamas fires just 3 mortar shells and just 1 rocket, that is the new definition of a lull? Pardon me, but all firing of any kind should stop for lets say, 48 hours, is that too much to ask? Gosh when it comes to Israel, people love to redefine what words mean? Let me put it another way, if Canada fired 3 mortar shells and 1 rocket across the Detroit River at Michigan, do you think we (the USA) would call that a lull, or an attack? CASE CLOSED
5. #4 - Detroit/Windsor - bad analogy...
seadog1946 ,   ArthurKill, NJ   (04.10.11)
For starters, The US has not built a fence/border around the Windsor area in Canada nor does it maintain border crossings on the Canadian side of the Windsor border and certainly not a free fire zone within that border. The US has not closed Windsor's air-space nor has it maintained a blockade of Windsor's access to the Detroit river. If someone were to fire several artillery rockets from Canada into Detroit, I doubt that the US would immediately bomb Ottowa or extra-judiciously assassinate Canadian officials.
6. #5
AD ,   Toronto, Canada   (04.10.11)
Your analogy is not relevant. Israel is doing what it needs to do in order to protect the lives of its' citizens from the terror of Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc ... I wonder if your response would change if a mortar shell, a grad missile or a kassam rocket would land on your home maiming or even killing one of your family members.
7. #6 - you are right... playing "what if"
seadog1946 ,   ArthurKill, NJ   (04.10.11)
is pointless. Trying to superimpose Israel's situation with the Palestinians onto the US/Canadian situation, is an attempt to gain grassroot US support for Israeli policy and to demonize all Palestinians. Your hasbara is transparent.
8. #5 seadog1946 , ArthurKill, NJ
Observer 1 ,   Choumi, Nigeria   (04.10.11)
I don't know what's peeving you? If Ynet ever allows my talkback to be seen by people like you, then just know that a ceasefire is more than the time spent between two attacks. But then, people like you are so dense in your own bs that you wouldn't recognize your left from your right were it to be shown to you physically. Crawl back into your hole, you petty mind.
9. #5; seadog, Wrong question
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (04.10.11)
When you only tell half the story we call that "lying through omission", that's what your doing. You speak of Israeli actions without mentioning what prompted those actions? Now that would tell a whole different story wouldn't it seadog? It's called self defense, as you correctly mentioned, many of those actions were in fact nonviolent i.e. fences, blockades, closed air space etc., sounds reasonable. It also proves Israel looks for ways to avoid violence, right?
10. From what I understood
Talula ,   Israel   (04.10.11)
The Iron Dome will not fire a missile if it calculates that an incoming grad is going to land in an empty space. Oh my GOD that's sooooo cool!!
11. Blood of Our Women and Children Will Not be Spilled In Vain.
Douglas Fireman ,   Chicago, USA   (04.10.11)
In my opinion, Hamas is totally responsible for war crimes directed against their women and children. If Leadership wants to limit deaths among their population, then they should be building bomb shelters rather than constructing bunkers, and positioning rocket launchers and other weapons of mass destruction midst their citizenry- in effect using them as human shields. And now, they are calling for another ceasefire which they already broke by firing a Grad missile toward Ashkelon. As I see it, militant leadership cares nothing about their people and should be punished for war crimes directed not only against Israel, but against their own people.
12. #9 - it works both ways...
seadog1946 ,   ArthurKill, NJ   (04.10.11)
you speak of Canadian actions without mentioning what propmted those actions... isn't that also "lying through omission".
13. To: No. 5
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.10.11)
Okay, how about the U.S. border with Mexico? Because of the drug and gun smuggling, any airplane attempting to approach the U.S. in that region is shot down first; questions asked later. Did I mention that the U.S. has built a fence along its border with Mexico? Portions of that fence are even electrified! Has Mexico ever launched any missiles against the United States? Has Mexico ever kidnapped a member of the United States armed forces? Has Mexico ever set IED devices along the perimeter fence?
14. negotiations
mr sunset ,   u.s.-mexican border   (04.10.11)
negotiating with soverign nations is tough enough. But with religous zealots, who are supported by those who wish to destroy Israel. They would deal with satan if they had opportunity.
15. # 12 Seadoggerel
Hal ,   Usa   (04.10.11)
Your point is nonexistent since your arguement is as artificial as your logic, such that it is. It is not what passes for an opinion that exposes your ignorance Seadog, it is your lack of intelectual honesty, but blather on as you want. If you could transmit the wind coming out of your vacuous mind kinetically to an electrical generator, you could sell power back to your utility co. at a profit. So, that is why you post here. You know Seadog, you are much smarter than one could expect.
16. #12;seadog, No it doesn't
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (04.10.11)
My remark was to make point, which apparently went over your head. The point was that 3 mortar attacks; and 1 rocket attack do NOT constitute a "Lull".. A Lull would be a total cessation of all attacks. Then the Detroit River was used as an example. you took that example removed all context, and made a baseless claim about Israel using only half the story.. Surely your not that dense. Look we all know your simply an apologist for the Arabs, that's fine. It's a free country, you choose to side with Evil. I choose to side with Good. Unprovoked attacks upon school buses and civilian towns by Hamas is evil. The Israeli defensive response is moral and justified. It's what any country would do when attacked. Now if you want to make excuses for the Arabs fine, but we all know why you do that!
17. #13 - fences...
seadog1946 ,   ArthurKill, NJ   (04.10.11)
Israel is building a fence to keep out African infiltrators/migrants. Have these Africans fired missles into Israel, set IEDs along the fence... no. The US/Mexico border fence has many justifications... socio/economic to some degree but primarily, the US is tired of having to deal with raped/murdered/dehydrated/dead illegals littering the southwest's highways and primitive areas... and to those who do make it into the US hinterlands... they are exploited... but then we don't want to go into the exploitation story too deep, do we.
18. #16 - motives... since you don't have the
seadog1946 ,   ArthurKill, NJ   (04.10.11)
slightest idea of what my motives are, you make them up as you go along. Well, I too have a good imagination so here's two to chew on, cracker... being that you're ensconced in Georgia, you've overdosed on way too many RCcocolas and MoonPies which has caused you to become a purveyor of Israeli hasbara, and... you're still miffed that the south lost the "War of Northern Agression".
19. To: No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.11.11)
Good fences make good neighbors. Unfortunately, that has not proven to be the case .... either with the United States and Mexico or Israel and Gaza. The only difference, of course, would be the missiles and mortars that continue to rain down on Israel from Gaza -- a dubious "privilege" the United States has yet to "enjoy." Explore the issue of exploitation all you want. We can start with the way the Hamas so-called "leadership" exploits and cruelly uses Gaza civilians by using them as human shields.
20. #18; seadog, excellent attempt at...
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (04.11.11)
Changing the subject, tough to admit when your wrong and you get busted. The proof of course is the conversation devolved...on your part...to a personal attack. The sure sign that you have nothing to offer as a defense. All anti-Israel writers love that term "Hasbara", it is the one word attempt at ending legitimate debate. The implication being that the defense of Israel is NOT true, or propaganda. Yet NO proof is ever offered to back that claim. Like in Wars even the written defense of Israel is denied and maligned by the anti-Israel writer. The ironic thing is this, often the anti-Israel writers complain. They say when they are accused of antisemitism, that is the way all Jewish people try to stifle legitimate political debate about Israel. Suddenly they become heroic martyrs, standing up to the powers that be, risking life and limb to get out the unspeakable TRUTH, that a secret Jewish conspiracy is trying to hide from the world YEA RIGHT!! I've got a bridge for sale too! Yet you and your ilk, use precisely the same tactic you complain of, you accuse those who disagree with you or defend Israel, of "HASBARA", and that should end the debate, what laughable hypocrisy. But I do love the irony if it.
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