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Israel's Arabs: The enemy from within?
Roni Shaked
Published: 21.04.11, 19:06
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31. #17 here is how you are wrong
Golan ,   Modiin   (04.21.11)
1st. the transfer plan was originally a plan put forward by the Labor party. 2nd, the Gaza pullout/disengagement/ethnic cleansing showed that the population transfer idea is not only legal but "humane." What can be done to the Jews by the Israeli government should be done to the Arabs. 3rd. no one is talking about expelling Arabs based on their ethnicity but on their political outlook (pan Arab National Socialist or radcial Islamist.) 4th. Israel IS a bi-national state with an overt Jewish character. And when you put the Arabs of Israel side by side with the Druze of Israel you see they are a threat, a violent fifth column, and an enemy. Never once did the Druze stand on their rooftops and call for Nasrallah or Hussein to bomb Israel. For this we better get rid of the ones who refuse to live with us in harmony. there are Arabs who live and wish to live with us in harmony. They themselves will tell you they are an anomaly. We should honor them by purging the others.
32. 7.Enemy From Within -Edward
Jay ,   Rockville USA   (04.21.11)
Sounds Rather like selective judgement ! While your busy affixing blame .,let's use the example of Ariel Sharon,historically to the "Right of Nentenyahu",Who came to the middle umilaterally left Gaza and Lebanon only to be treated to immediate rocket attacks and other acts of violence by the terrorist groups. Hamas and Hezbollah.Whether it's the acts of Israeli Arabs or Hamas or Hezbollah it is their acts of terrorism and/or reckless rhetoric,that got the Nentenyahu government which you bleat about,elected . Disproportionate criticism like yours is not in the interest of peace.
33. #17 Jake. The chilul hashem is to enpower Israel's enemies.
Chaim ,   Israel   (04.21.11)
#17 Jake. Why do you claim it's a terrible thing to pay Arabs to leave Israel? It's actually incredibly humane, under the circumstances. Far more humane that they'd treat Jews if, heaven forbid, they had their way. The real hilul hashm is to empower Israel's enemies by letting them stay in Israel and plot our doom.
34. #25 Rami of Nazareth
Jake   (04.21.11)
What you are saying might be true for some of the Arab Israelis. But what about the Arab MKs, who are voted into office by the Arab public? MK Ahmad Tibi insists that his NATIONALITY is "Palestinian", not Israeli. Haneen Zoabi described herself as "a Palestinian, an Arab, and a citizen". The word Israel or Israeli is not even mentioned in her list.
35. # 34 because its a matter of time for the true real peace
realist   (04.21.11)
36. #34 You are correct. They elect the radical Arabs
Dan ,   USA   (04.21.11)
to represent them. The radical Arabs advocate the destruction of the Jewish sovereignty from the podium of the Israeli Knesset and yet, they expect the Jews to feel secure when they side with the enemies of Israel.
37. evidence
Michael ,   Haifa   (04.21.11)
Maybe this learned and most erudite Professor can bring some evidence to support his subjective claims
38. Schufetan is right but has bad solutions
Ev ,   Tel Aviv   (04.21.11)
Schufetan is right, if arab kids grow up being taught that they are arabs and must fight for the lands of all arabs, how can we expect loyalty? This is who leads the arab communities. But like Rami said, this is still a minority, how can we punish all of our arabs for the ideas of a few of their brothers? also, i'm an arab jew, why under this plan do I deserve to stay more in the land than a loyal non-jewish arab? if we treat arabs as equals, the majority will accept us such. that is all we can do.
39. two jakes-#31 and #33
jake   (04.22.11)
1st. just because the transfer plan was originally a plan put forward by the labor party doesnt make it any less problematic 2nd. two wrongs dont make a right, the only reason why the disengagement was deemed legal in worlds eyes was because they viewed us as occupiers so when we "ethnicaly cleansed" our own from aza the world didnt give a dam (which they will when it comes to the arabs) and even with our own people it didnt go smoothly...u think they wont leave with out a fight??? 3rd. how do you intend to draw the line? and if we really consider ourselves a free democratic state similar to the US then regardless of ones political beliefs thats no right to expel someone....wouldnt it be rediculous if a president expelled all the democrats or republicans becasue the president viewed them as a threat to the character of the state?? 4th ok so your right, in the end of the day there people living among us who want to do bad things so thank god we have a security infrastructure capable of protecting us...i would rather try finding some other solution beofre we go with mass deportation and ethnic cleansing and yes even if we're offering cash to leave (in a way that still doesnt make things better) (something would seem right paying the israelis to pick up and leave from the shomron...though it would lesson the pain a bit...) and additionally according to the sources "empowering israel's enemies" (which it seems like you might be accusing me of doing) is not technically a chilul hashem, and in the end of the day however much power israels enemies obtain we will always win... kahane was not right
40. #37, the evidence you miss
Marco ,   Spain   (04.22.11)
50% of Arab public votes into office 100% anti Israel MK's from Arab parties who want to dismantle Israel as a Jewish State. Another 40% votes for majority Jewish parties that agree with Arab anti Israel positions, Meretz, Labor, Kadima and have platforms that if implemented the survival of Israel is at risk. Only 10% of Arabs vote Likud and want Israel to remain a Jewish State with full rights for minorities. What else don't you see if you are not blind?
41. ALIYAH israel needs MORE aliyah
meir kohan ,   Eretz Israel   (04.22.11)
from USA and France/Europe. only 3-4 hundred thousand from France/ Europe and 3-6 hundred thousand from USA and that will change the demographics for the next 20+ years in Israels jewish favor also israel needs to try and bring the beit avraham jewish community in ethiopia to israel and let them convert back to judaism and they number around 30-40 thousand.
42. What is democratic about a Jewish state in Arabia?
Fedup   (04.22.11)
Jews are a minority in Arabia. Quit dreaming and stop oppressing other people.
43. Israel must not accept a Palestinian state unless all Arabs.
(04.22.11)
who live in Israel accept to move there.Arabs should not be allowed to have just one more Arab state, without moving into it. If they are Palestinians, they should move to the Palestinain state if if will be stablished. why should there be a new Palestinain state only for Arabs if Israeli Arabs who call themselves Palestinians won't move into it? in 1948 U.N gave Israel to Jews and Jordan to Arabs. Now they have Jordan and they also want to live in Israel? Millinos of Arabs and Moslems have moved and are constantly moving to Western countries like Euorpe and Canada and U.S.A. so that they can live in democracy instead of living in Arab-Moslem Apartheid states. why can't Israeli Arabs move to Western countries? because they are already living in a democratic country called Isarel where they can have democracy and at the same time paln for taking over the country the same way the Moslems in European countries are already taking over. the problem is with democracy. Israel must stop thinking about democracy when dealing with the Arabs who want to destry it or do anything against it. All we need to understand is this: If today Arabs in Israel use democracy to work against Israel and plan to destroy it, when they take over they will not think about democracy even one minute. they will do to Jews in Israel as other Arabs and Moslems have done to Jews who lived in Arab and Moslem states which will conqured and occupied by Arab armies. There are almost no Jews in Arab lands. They didnt' think about democracy when they kicked thoes jews out and stole their lands and properties. there should be no Arabs in Israel , if they want Israel to let them have an Arab-Moslem Palestinian state.
44. Funny how many "experts" appeared
(04.22.11)
Suddenlt, impostors from all over express their radical Islamo-Leftist narrative with an "know it all" arrogance. Their desire to dilute the message of the article is all too visible. They use worn out slogans and racist statements, under the - wait - "human-right" veil. What a hypocirtical heap of Islamo-Leftists hateful and genocidal scum. Truth hurts, eh? You bleed when you are unmasked and exposed, eh? Good! We are prepared to fight you on every corner and on every beach, until you perish or live with the fact that Israel is reborn on its ancestral lands. The only occupation here is the MUslim OCCUPATION of Jewish Ancestral Land. Despite the fact that you and your ancestors stole, OCCUPIED, raped and then poisoned these lands, we made if flourish. We made a FREE society - something none of you have ever experienced before, and therefore you have no tools to appreciate. No amount of incitement, wars and terror will make us go away, so you either live with us peacefully, or leave. Your choice!
45. #37 evidence?
(04.22.11)
Maybe this impostor can bring his own evidence to refute HIS subjective position?
46. to jake # 34
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (04.22.11)
Like many Israeli-Arabs, I do not agree with the MKs you mentioned. I understand that arabs voted for them, but also many more voted for jewish parties like labor, kadima, meretz, even likud, shas and Yisrael bitenu...
47. I agree with Gee # 29
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (04.22.11)
seperations and segregations should be eliminated. Whether in the school system or segregated cities. We all are Israeli, all should be equal before the law and have same rights and same responsibilities.
48. It is good that at least a few Israeli Jews have remained
David ,   USA   (04.22.11)
sensible. The Arab population of Israel have been trying to destroy the Jewish sovereignty by all means possible.
49. The Arabs have tried every possible mean
Sam ,   USA   (04.22.11)
to wipe out Jewish Israel. They have not stopped trying.
50. Arab-muslims
David Fakheri ,   Los Angles   (04.22.11)
One should be so naive to not to believe that the Arab-muslim in israel are not cooperating with their brothers in Hamas and Hizballah to destroy the Jewish state
51. the primary enemy from the within
Isaiah the prophet ,   israel   (04.22.11)
"Your destroyers and they that make you waste will come forth from among you." Isaiah 49:17
52. What Isaiah said about the lefites 1000 years ago
The Prophet Isaiah ,   Israel   (04.22.11)
"Your destroyers and they that make you waste will come forth from among you." Isaiah 49:17
53. Arab Israeli, the enemy from within?
Elsie, ,   Gush Halav   (04.22.11)
For many years, i have never read an article so just plain racist, destuction of the Jewish enterprise! the enemy within!,maintain a lifestyle THANKS to the Jewish majority!, etc etc,and then the posts, deport them!, don't let them vote , and so it goes on and on ,has he talked to the average Jo?? no, because if he did he would have found that the average Jo ,loves Israel, repects Israel,etc etc. As in ALL counties in the world you will always find a group of people who are the discontent, but here in Israel most of the Arab Israeli are firmly identify with their Israeliship.So ask's the average Jo before penning such a vile article as this one.
54. once
hala ,   jerusalem   (04.22.11)
they tried to transfer any element to gold >>they were professors of chemistry ..i just laugh
55. Proof once again that the idiocy of the Left...
moshe   (04.22.11)
...knows no bounds. You morons need RESEARCH to tell you that the Arabs hate us and want us all dead? WOW! How about you RESEARCH the Koran! Nitwits! There WILL NEVER BE COMPROMISE and THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE as long as Islam and Judaism both exist on Earth. This is NOT about race or ethnicity. It's bigger than that.
56. The making of an arab state called Israel
jo   (04.22.11)
A fascinating article, by a fascinating man. There is enough for everybody to express an opinion ' pour et contre '.When one deciphers its content. some inescapable facts (in my judgement) do stand out. -- Jewish 'fairness'(compulsive), jewish leftists,jewish liberalism, human rights (a malady) ; they will eventually bring Israel down to its knees. Combined with the 100's of thousands who left the country , a steady flow,there will be nothing left worth to be saved. The balance, following a proven process, will follow lke sheeps their less than worthless leaders, the rabbis, right down the abyss, with an equally bored god's name on their lips. We happen to have a govt capable of speeding the process by allowing in it's midst the likes of a Tibi and other undesirables arabs proclaiming to the world that they are 'palestinians'. Idiocy at his best, that is us.
57. Ridiculous
Jon ,   Baltimore US   (04.22.11)
So the only way that the Jewish people can secure their state is to kick every non-Jew out of it ? You start now with the Arabs. Then the Christians ? Then anyone who achieves enough of a percentage of the population to warrant representation in a representative government ? Do you then start kicking out the "not real Jews" who have returned to the country under the Law of Return but have not been converted according to the Rabbinate? Where do you stop?
58. Arab 5th column
Olah ,   From USAto my home I   (04.22.11)
Stop deluding yourself that we can "buy"their loyalty(ha!) with education,benefits,rights-they just use these to further their destrucive, hatefull aims. Think what they & their children(who we support & educate)really believe-peacefull Islam,hate & Jewish bloodthirst!!!
59. Don't agree
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (04.22.11)
Most Israeli Arabs are good citizens who are happy to be Israeli and have reasonable demands from the country. But they have one problem: only anti-Israeli Arab leadership succeeds because they get money from the foreign-funded extreme-Left Jewish groups.
60. israeli arab problems are never about the proverty or gazans
mary of Bethany ,   singapore   (04.22.11)
arab problems are never about proverty, its plain RADICAL ISLAMIC BELIEF but they will always hide behind the poverty of the refugees, to justify their twisted mindset. just need to do a little research, you will find out that most terrorists caught from US, Asia... round the world are educated, even intellectually not wanting, financially well-off, even professionals! many have families, and great job, with friends and families members not knowing their dangerous plots at all. and not matter where they are, their mosques will always link it to the so-call "palestinians plight "! Gullible west will suck up their tonic excuses without doubting! save yourself as the only Jewish Nation in the world in midst of 22 arab nations, by: SENDING ALL ISRAELIS-ARABS over to gaza! you don't need cancerous cells to grow in your body untreated! israelis-arab will kill from within, worst than the gazan terrorists!
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