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Bin Laden versus Yassin
Manfred Gerstenfeld
Published: 03.05.11, 23:29
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31. #14. Cut with your crap. The world is anti-Semitic
Michael ,   California, USA   (05.04.11)
The holocaust, pogroms, Arab wars against Israel, intifadas, Arab terrorism. the UNGA barrage of anti-Israel resolutions speak volumes about this anti-Semitic world. Yet, the Jews survive, advance and prosper despite all odds and the haters like you.
32. #16 there is definitely an occupation of the Jewish land of
Dan ,   USA   (05.04.11)
Israel by those who are indiscriminately firing at the civilian centers of Israel.
33. Both killed by 'infedels' LOL!
(05.04.11)
All the big talking terrorists that love to murder finally get what's coming.
34. #23 well said, Abdalla
Salma ,   Palestine   (05.04.11)
35. #25 If you think that America is not dependent on other
Robert ,   USA   (05.04.11)
nations you know nothing about the international affaird. There is a great inter-dependency in this world. Granted, we are in a better position than Israel. We don't have the backward, dictatorial and very brutal Arab states in our neighborhood but we are still dependent on the democratic countries like Israel to promote our values and make us less vulnerable to the 9/11 type tragedies.
36. To koolaid victim # 22 - 1
Yaakov ,   Beer Sheva, Israel   (05.04.11)
Sir, you and all Americans live in illegal tents erected on Indian territory you violently stole from the Indians. Acknowledging the fact of that most cruel genocide does not correct it at all; get the heck out of the land you are squatting on and then you will start having some inkling of morals to talk your arrogant babble Did you forget about the ¾ million civilians killed by your mercenary forces in Iraq? What about Afghanistan or Viet Nam and Korea? What about of your nuking two civilian populations in Japan? If Americans had any sense of honor and decency would certainly abstain from talking about this matters Our military tells in advance its enemy that we are going to attack certain place, so as to give the opportunity to the civilians to flee. You always carpet bomb and whoever falls ... falls; or you target a place without ever warning the civilians. Stop the hypocrisy!
37. To koolaid victim # 22 - 2
Yaakov ,   Beer Sheva, Israel   (05.04.11)
Your external financial “help” is no innocent help. It always comes with hooks attached, therefore no gratefulness can be expected. Without Jewish minds in your midst, and the third world raw material you robe through cruel exploitation, you wouldn't enjoy the shadow of your splendor. As a person who lived in America for several decades, and who helped through much voluntary social work the American people – immensely more than America ever helped me in any way – I feel very qualified to say that the America you extoll only exists in the minds of illusory Americans, or in the dreams of those in the world who have bought too many tickets to watch Hollywood productions. Your decadent country is inexorably falling due to its own immorality and inauspicious piracy; after all, despite of what you Americans may think, the laws of history cannot be altered and you always end up harvesting what you planted.
38. To koolaid victim # 22 - 3
Yaakov ,   Beer Sheva   (05.04.11)
What you really are number one as a country – apart from undue arrogance – is at exploiting other nations' natural resources, filling the world with your “values” of sexual corruption throughout mass media and “art,” and imposing your will by force. You are number one at infecting the world with you “values” of materialism, selfishness, callousness and greed. Need I to go on? Yes, you call your mercenary forces of world intervention at the whim of your auto-proclaimed 'world dictating leaders' “heroic liberators;” but then you also call the ruthless and genocidal English 'conquistadors' of your very recent past, “pioneers”!! Then you have the gall to call our true heroic pioneers and liberators in Yesha (Judea and Samaria, that you are dare calling “West Bank” so as to get rid of the inconvenient fact that the name 'Judea' that proclaims it belonged and still belongs to us) “settlers” in favor of the Arab squatters. Of course, ti is just a matter of a simple defense mechanism: squatters must solidarize with other squatters. Learn the true history of your country. It might do you good, and thus you perhaps shall become humble.
39. And what if it had been Bush...
Bart ,   Brussels, Belgium   (05.04.11)
I'm not sure worldwide congratulations, as now for Obama, would have been as forthcoming if the killing of Bin Laden would have been ordered at the time Bush was still in the White House.
40. #14 Liar liar pants on fire
Menachem ,   Israel   (05.04.11)
You fullfill all the characteristics of a true Jew-hater: 1) defending other Jew-haters 2) elevating lying into a profession 3) blaming the Jews for your racist pathology. 4) Demonization & double standards against Jews. Hamas is an offshoot of the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood which was established in Egypt 2 decades BEFORE the reestablishment of Israel. Hamas is like Hitler not driven by "desperation" but by dreams of wiping out the Jewish people but they will reamin disappointed because Israel is here to stay for ever. The Arabs lost their war of aggression against Israel in 1948 and have to like all aggressors take the full consequences of their crimes. We Jews were the first victims of Islamo-fascism when it entered the world stage 1300 years ago and we have shown the world how to fight this cancer.
41. Response to 16. Nina NYC
hanock ,   Australia   (05.04.11)
May I come and fight your occupation of NYC?
42. #22 Double standards? YES
Concerned Israeli ,   Israel   (05.04.11)
Most Americans in contrast to annoying hypocrites like you are decent people but let's get the facts straight: 1) Americans reside in tents on occupied Indian territory. 2) Israel has done far more than the US in avoiding civilians casualties. The number of civilians unintentionally killed by Israel is peanuts compared to those killed by the US. If Dresden and Hiroshima is not collateral damage then I don't know what is.
43. #16 YOU are the occupiers
Menachem ,   Israel   (05.04.11)
Yes you Americans who are occupying a vast land belonging to the Indians. Fighting the "occupation" is Hamas euphemism for Israel's destruction. At least Hitler had the spine to admit that he was an anti-Semite which can't be said about Jew-haters like you.
44. #13 you are wrong
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (05.04.11)
You know as well as I do that the Arabs are not "calling for returning to their homeland" they are calling for extermination of the aboriginal population of Israel, the Jews. Yassin was an advocate of genocide and colonialism. Bin Laden did not declare war against the world and as far as I know, never called for genocide. His main enemy was the corrupt apartheid statec alled Saudi Arabia. This does not change the fact that the Americans were right in fighting him for the 9/11 attack.
45. To Nina, #16
(05.04.11)
Do wake up, it will be good for your character. The only Israeli occupying the Gaza Strip is Gilad Shalit. Hamas is a genocidal organization which exists only to destroy Israel. Attacking a school bus with a guided missile does not quite qualify as resistance. Of course, if you have been brainwashed by the anti-Semitic left into believing that by saying it you make it so, then you have given up your God-given right to freedom of thought, and all I can do is pity you.
46. In response to #16
Mitchell Cohen ,   Efrat, Israel   (05.04.11)
Nina [#16]: Your theory about "having the right to fight occupiers" falls on deaf ears because: a) Hamas is recognized as a terror organization by the US and Europe b) Yassin was responsible for terrorist incidents against Israeli CIVILIANS (including children), within the "green line".... So, are you saying that ALL of Israel, including within the "armistice lines" are occupied too, Israel does not have a right to exist, and that EVERY Israeli (civilian or soldier, child or adult) deserves what he/she gets?
47. "wheelchair"
Z ,   London   (05.04.11)
I cannot believe people are trying to use the excuse that Yassin was in a wheelchair to object to his being killed. For a start that's discrimination! Most importantly, he was a terrorist, directly responsible for Hamas terror attacks that killed innocent Israeli civilians. Yes, even though he was in a wheelchair.
48. a firefight is different
Sam ,   ME   (05.04.11)
than being killed in wheelchair no matter how you look at it.
49. #48 What firefight?
Menachem ,   Israel   (05.04.11)
The Americans admit that Bin Laden was unarmed when he was eliminated. The only difference between Bin Laden and Hamas is that Bin Laden's Al Qaida is against the whole free world whereas Hamas is "only" or mainly against the Jewish people.
50. Double standard
michael Pielet ,   boca raton, Israel   (05.04.11)
There is no double standard. The US when it suits its interest kills terrorists. For example Bin Laden. Israel in contrast negotiates with terrorists, Arafat, Oslo; Abbas, peace process. Israel even goes so far and brings terrorists from Tunisia, Arafat and his terrorist thugs to the land of Israel in order to facilitate the murder and maiming of more Jews! All in the name of the "peace process". Rabin and the leftist press, trumpeted your make peace with your enemies. Therefore the world says make peace with your enemies and objects when you harm the terrorists. Its not the world, the problem is Israel.
51. response to 'Palestinian'
NYJew ,   Rye, NY USA   (05.04.11)
Excellent idea. And then the surrounding Muslim countries would of course recognize the concomittant right of Jews and other infidels who have been driven out of Muslim countries during the same time period. And Israel should treat its Muslims exactly the way the Muslims treat the infidels. You know . . . burning and desecrating their holy places, murdering innocent Muslims, driving them out under threat of death, confiscating their property. Excellent idea, Mr. Palestinian.
52. response to Concerned American
NYJew ,   Rye, NY USA   (05.04.11)
You don't state it, but you imply Israel is different. Like . . . they don't drop leaflets warning people that a building will be targeted; you seem to imply that Israel doesn't try to limit collateral damage. And as for 'we try to apprehend and arrest the 'suspect.' and only use deadly force when we have to . . " Do you not read the news? Obama has sent dozens of predator missiles to kill terrrorist and those around them in Afghanistan. And now its coming out that Bin Laden was unarmed. There was no intention to 'arrest the suspect.' This was a pure kill operation. And that's exactly what Bin Laden and every terrorist deserves.
53. #22 I beg to disagree
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (05.04.11)
I have nothing against the US, but you should get your facts right. Obama admits that Bin Laden was unarmed and that he ordered his killing anyway. Obama recently murdered Gadaffi's a noncombatant son and three grandchildren to get him to surrender and did not blink an eye. Obama has admitted to killing close to 7000 civilians in Afghanistan since he took power. American (and UK) forces typically kill 2 non-combatants for every enemy combatant in an urban environment. Nothing to do, war is hell. In "Cast Lead" Israel set a record, killing only 1 non-combatant for every 2 combatants, And lastly: Israel has never "set up tents" in other people's land. Name even one example.
54. Missile into a wheel chair is not exactly a surgical op.
Ali ,   Washington, DC   (05.04.11)
55. can't wait for treasure trove of bin-Laden documents
Carl ,   USA   (05.04.11)
to prove that al-Qaeda is working hand-in-hand with Hamas!
56. Ali #54 right!
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (05.04.11)
Dropping a couple of dozen missiles on houses is a surgical op or at least it is according to NATO standards. It obvious is a very surgical op since it got the right target and only his human shields. Compared to the US and it's allies killing 10 civilians to 1 combatant (current average) versus our 2 combatants per civilian ratio is indicative of the great care that we take than the rest of the West. Then there is the Arabs, that average over 1,000 civilians per combatant.
57. To Mr's Sarah B
Luiz Felipe Haddad ,   Brazil   (05.05.11)
Dear Mr's Sarah B. I agree with you about Israelian rights, including some strong acts in order to defend her territory and her own existence. But not about your suggestion "to (Israel) get rid of some thorns in our side". Although I understand your revolt against Muslim Arab terrorism, I think that the Jewish State must never give up from the good values and from the respect for Law. Remember Adolph Eichman, whose death penalty had derived from a fair trial, with full defense and discussed evidences. The greatness of Democracy resides exactly on it. PS: in Brazil, next Sunday, we will commemorate the Mothers's Day. Then, I congratulate you, and, in your name, all Israelian and Jewish mothers.
58. #54 Yassin planned terror from wheelchair
Cynthia ,   USA   (05.05.11)
The "surgical op" took place when he left his house to avoid killing his family. You can put the violin away.
59. I can see the difference!
Chaim ,   Brooklyn   (05.06.11)
the terrorists of Ertz Yisrael ימ”ש Ym”sh, even they are horibly not right, they fight for land that they claim back. yet, Bin Ladin fights for NO GIVEN REASON, and kills people anywhere in the world, no matter who they are. Yet again: “both are wrong!” but still “I can see the difference of how the world looks on it”. Just as wee look when the Russian minority when they kill Russians, and afterwards when Russia Assassinates them, we wouldn’t equivalent it with the assession of Bin Lodin.
60. Ohh, David, David
Amir   (05.08.11)
If you can't see the anti-Semitic double standard applied by the UN and the western world towards Israel, then I simply have nothing to say but: you are blind.
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