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UK, France may back PA's bid for state
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Published: 05.05.11, 01:21
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1. UK doesn't want peace
elhrac ,   USA   (05.05.11)
they want Israel destroyed. they have supported Israel's enemies since 1948.
2. UK, France may back PA's bid for state
E ,   City Of Angles   (05.05.11)
Israel should do what is right for Israel! should the euros, asians, americans north and south all endorse a fakestilian state, it wont change things on the ground. things will be a litlle harder diplomatically but it has always been hard for Israel in the diaspora. be more concerned for your own than the enemy wich is the arabs/fakestilians!
3. UK Gets what It Deserves!
Hinda ,   SF Bay Area   (05.05.11)
So Britain will support a terrorist country? What would Churchill think? No wonder the Ravens are dying at the Tower of London. The UK is sinking into the black hole of appeasing the enemy!
4. The Emperor has no clothes!
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.05.11)
Why should the "Pals" talk under these conditions? The Brits and French just handed them exactly what they want, as well as control of the "no talks" scenario. The irony is that it is the "Pals" who refuse to talk seriously. All they want is to get exactly what they want; no compromise. And would the Brits or the French negotiate with those who don't recognize them? Of course not? The "Pals" are playing bad-cop, good-cop. In addition they have come up with a nonsensical arrangement in which Hamas is part of the government...but also isn't. And the EU is buying it. The Emperor has no clothes!
5. For this, UK will lose its last island - England !
Jaacov Baumann   (05.05.11)
'' He who curses Israel will be cursed ! '' Woe to you , England - you support those who want to destroy Israel ! Therefore destruction is your destiny !
6. I back londistan being taken over by muzzies and forcing the
Countess Mara   (05.05.11)
monarchy out. Especially with that wedding fiasco last week. No more dukes, dutches, kings, queenies, etc. only mussizes to be in total control now forthem, I think it is about time, we are tired of waiting for this to happen. WE vote this in now.
7. UK & France are blackmailing Israel.
Harry Wright ,   UK   (05.05.11)
They have learnt well from the islamists in their midst. They are willing to create another Arab state because there are no "peace talks" going on. Hm...that justification is just brilliant. You know, it just has to be brilliant once it comes from British and French luminaries. You know, it just has to be based on deep deliberations and insightful reflections and considerations. Oh yes! They are just dazzling us with their brilliance. I hope Netanyahu tells Cameron to just do what he thinks is the right thing and let his conscience be his guide. Blackmail is deplorable.
8. The UK has become weak, schizophrenic
EZ ,   USA   (05.05.11)
The UK has become exceptionally weak, dependent on the US for it's military and leadership while it flounders about aimlessly on the political stage without ryhme or reason. The once 'mighty' imperialists have decayed into a worn out old shoe: nostalgic unto itself only but not even worth the goodwill drop-box for the world. If anyone thinks being as Vicious to the world as Britain has been will not effect their well being in the long run: I'd point u to Babylon, Egypt, Assyria, Greece, Rome, Spain, France, Portugal, Holland, the Nords, Germany and Russia. Not ONE of these nations applied nearly enough understanding or compassion to any of their dealings: they were tyrannical, deadly,brutal and repressive. Now they sit in the dustbin of history as lessons of WHAT NOT to be. The US is still the greatest social/political experiment in world history and while it clearly has it's weak points and bad raps, it is bead and shoulders above the powers of history due to it's charity, generosity, understanding and respect for culture. When we look at nations like Australia, who EXTERMINATED the Tasmanians, we see the influence of the crown. When we explore the crusades, we see how lowly the crown stooped to secure it's greedy and silly exploits: when we look at Britains war time policy of murdering civilians en-mass (while the Americans refused and lost thousands of pilots fighting respectably)...we see NO difference between the crown and the a sued excuse for a modern democracy has changed Britain a bit. Now the schizo leader of Britain "stands behind Israel" on one hand and on the other "will recognize a PA (hamas terrorist) state unless Israel goes back to the table. It's simply a disgrace to see Britain attempt to assert itself when it has no teeth, respect, authority and a horrendous history of violence. WHO IS BRITAIN, OF ALL NATIONS, TO MAKE DEMANDS ON ISRAEL, A SOVEREIGN NATION FIGHTING FOR IT'S SURVIVAL AGAINST MONSTROUS LIARS AND MURDERERS!? Once again BRITAIN IS SHOWING JUST HOW TYRRANICAL, HATEFUL & VILE IT TRULY IS. BRITAIN/ENGLAND IS A DISGRACE AND DESERVES NO RESPECT FROM ISRAEL OR THE US. NONE. Britain and Cameron can back off now, apologize and butt out or they can go to hell!
9. Oh please ,Israel!
Keren ,   IL-BR   (05.05.11)
Kick the butt of these old cynic bullies and unite yourself with China. China needs brains and they revere Jewish people because they are intelligent! But make an union with them based in economic interests, not letting them ,and nobodys else, mix in our politics anymore. Kick these british and french to their own caverns to let us alone!
10. Israel was forced in Palestine, time to force Palestine also
Ann ,   UK   (05.05.11)
11. Netanyahu in Britain
Steve ,   New York USA   (05.05.11)
Shame on Cameron; Fatah and Hamas made peace; Hamas said Obama is a criminal for killing Osama bin Ladin; and Britain wants Israel to negotiate?? Has evreyone gone totally mad??
12. netanyahu
fad egypt   (05.05.11)
must stop the policy of appeasement and must annex the unpopulated areas in judea and samaria like the settlements blocs and the jordan valley or all area C and must say NO to any pressure thats the only solution for the PA threats in 1999 netanyahu said if arafat declared a state unilarely in september 1999 he would annex area C or the judea and samaria so arafat decided against the unilateral declaration shalom
13. Cameron has just killed the negotiations he claims to suppor
zionist forever   (05.05.11)
David Cameron says he wants a solution reached through negotiations but then he says he may recognize a palestinian state if negotiations stall where is the logic? Where is the incentive for Abbas to talk if he knows he can have it all anyway? All Abbas needs to do is sit it out a little while longer and he gets his state without having to make a single concession which he would have to do if we were looking for a negotiated solution. He needs to do is say this is what I demand and the pathetic appeasing Europeans will say we support you and all your demands unconditionally. its going to be another screw up by Europeans who won't stay out of things that don't concern them. If Abbas does state declare unilateral statehood then Israel counter this by doing as much as it can to make things as hard as possible for this state.Let Abbas know who is in charge and demand concessions No corridor through Israel connecting the two halves of their state, if little Mohammed living in Gaza wants to go visit his sick grandmother in Rammalah let him travel to Egypt, fly - Jordan and then travel to Rammalah. They need Israeli territory and we don't have to give permission. Israel should stop supplying them with electricity, let the new palestinian loving Egyptian government provide it Its good for us because there is less pressure on Israel's electric grid so no need to build as many power stations.. Let Egypt supply them with oil & gas The new government wants to stop supplying Israel with gas so plenty for the palestinians as long as they pay market rate. Cancel all work permits for palestinians who work in Israel. If they introduce it then refuse to recognize the new palestinian currency which will make it harder for businesses to trade with them. We make it so bad that Abbas will regret ever going it alone and the Europeans will regret getting involved in issues that don't concern them and they don't understand them just to satisfy the egos of their leaders who want to be noticed and praised.
14. Create another failed state. Congrats, idiots
Zvi   (05.05.11)
15. Anglo Arabphiles didn't support IL statehood
Kerwood Derby ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (05.05.11)
And has supported everyone who tried to kill Jews before during and after IL's declaration of independence.
16. The world is nucking futs I swear....
BJL ,   usa   (05.05.11)
Didnt Fatah and Hamas just get together? Oh yeah.....lets just give them a state!
17. Britain and France are weak and irrelevant
Richard ,   USA   (05.05.11)
Two nations that cannot even fight Lybia's dictator without US leading the way are truly irrelevant. They cow tow to their Muslim population. they are vassel states already.
18. Not "may" back PA state, they will.
Matt C ,   Canada   (05.05.11)
If France and the UK have declared they "may" back a unilateral PA state (in violation of previous international agreements) then nothing Israel does can prevent that decision. It would be ridiculous for France and the UK to announce a desire for a PA state and then back down because Israel made further compromises to facilitate that state. That is not how international politics work. Even if Israel surrendered tomorrow to every single current PA demand France and Britain would still vote in favour of a PA state. Because this is not about Israel, it is about appeasing the much talked about “overwhelming moderate majority” in the Muslim and Arab "worlds", which France and Britain wrongly believe can be accomplished by ignoring radical tendencies in much of the Islamic “world“, like in Turkey and post-revolutionary Egypt, and even on the streets of Malmo and London, and by throwing Israel under a bus. It does not even matter what the Palestinian Arabs do: terrorist violence, Holocaust denial, systematic violations of previous agreements, honouring terrorists and teaching their children to endorse genocidal violence, none of this has been enough to cause France and the UK to criticise them. Even if tomorrow Abbas went on TV and announced, in English, that he had just become a member of Al-Qaeda, it would not be enough to change France and the UK's minds on a PA state because they have already made their decision to appease. This is why Abbas was so confident he could get away with joining Hamas in a unity government that rejects even the most basic demands that the Quartet have made of the PA. All of this talk about how Israel somehow needs to do "more" to restart negotiations is just diplomatic talk designed to pin the blame on Israel for a decision that has already been reached, just as Czechoslovakia was blamed for not appeasing the Germans fast enough, even though surrendering to Nazi demands would ultimately lead to the occupation of the entire country. The leaders of Europe refuse to admit to themselves just how widespread radicalism really is in the Middle East and hope that by embracing Muslim demands and censoring those brave few who try to tell the truth about radicalism they can continue with politics as usual in Europe and the world. It would require a real paradigm shift in Europe's view of the Muslim "world" to prevent France and the UK from backing a PA state, so whether or not Israel gives in to appeasement does not actually matter.
19. My Dearest Mr. Prime Minister,
Israeli 2   (05.05.11)
I know that you read only my talkback on YNet. Therefore I am asking you to politely give them the finger. Threaten them back politely. Tell the to shove it ...very gently...and finally Sir, declare Jerusalem and all the reconquered areas including Gaza under Israel's jurisdiction.
20. Fine, Bibi can tell them Israel is considering a military
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (05.05.11)
solution where gaza and the west bank is put under full military control of the IDF and there will be no freedom of movement.
21. stab in the back
Golan ,   modiin   (05.05.11)
the Americans and Europeans promised Israel that if it takes risks then Euros will support us. Now we see that the entire land for terror campaign had nothing to do with peace or European naivete but downright anti-semitism. Let the Arabs declare a state, let us annex our land and expel the Arabs as the only way to have security. The Arabs will still launch rockets at us and we will still pretend its rain. At least we will remove the demographic threat from Hebron, Jerusalem, Jaffa, and Tamra.
22. finally the world sees bibi's true colors
abdalla ,   plantation   (05.05.11)
23. This is the stupidest thing Britain has done since Sir
Rivkah   (05.05.11)
Winston Churchill voided the Balfour Declaration of the League of Nations with his White Paper that vastly reduced the amount of land for the Jews. If Britain helps in the formation of a Palestinian State and divides Jerusalem, Britain will be a goat nation when the Lion of Judah comes to deliver Israel from the goat nations that attack. Is Britain to be forever a goat nation or a sheep nation? There is no inbetween. If Britain backs a Palestinian State, that means Britain is calling YHWH and the Holy Scriptures a liar. That is so stupid it is unfathomable.
24. Do not let UK dictate to Israel
Rachel ,   US   (05.05.11)
The British and French are nobodies.The do not demand that Hamas recognize Israel. So their opinions means nothing.
25. If the Nazizs were "Ying" then the British were "Yang"
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.05.11)
Every year ,come the Holocaust Rememberance Day I find myself "discover" anew the British role in the killing effort of the Germans. Actually every time a Jew utters either "England/Britain/Queen..." one should go: Tfoy, a kepurre !!!
26. no surprise
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (05.05.11)
The Brits have historically done every thing since the Balfour declaration to destroy the Jewish state. It is no surprise to me that they would recognize even Hamas as a state.
27. No more land-grabbing status quo!
Me   (05.05.11)
That's a given. Nobody is fooled anymore, rightly ignoring the usual partial broker that are the USA.
28. it allowed into the UK. UK is drowning in
Vardina   (05.05.11)
its own dirt.
29. The UK has brought the world ARC
Annmarie ,   USA   (05.05.11)
ARC is the Alliance of Religions and Conservation, founded by the Duke of Edinburgh. It's a push towards world earth worship. Ban Ki-Moon is involved, and lead the 'Many Heavens, One Earth' project for ARC through the UNDP in 2009.
30. israel lost all creditiblity in cast lead
sammy   (05.05.11)
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