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Who wants Palestine?
Sever Plocker
Published: 15.05.11, 23:53
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31. Haifa Guy- I Love you! #2
Rachel ,   US   (05.16.11)
When I read that sentence how the US always get what they want , I thought the same thing (WTF). I will add another to your list: communist free Cuba! Israel is going to be just fine. Do not listen to the doomsayers like Barak!
32. who wants palestinian state?
masrawy ,   egypt   (05.16.11)
heck no one............ other than those 105 states willing to recognize it
33. Send them all to Jordan so we can all live happily everafter
Nick Sporek ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (05.16.11)
34. The EU want it
Danny   (05.16.11)
35. Oh Salma, if only you Arabs did indeed think" for yourselves
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (05.16.11)
Salma - you Arabs have spent your entire existence being pushed around and dominated by dictators of one form or another. Even now, there is no "Arab Spring". There are some attempts by Arabs in Egypt and elsewhere to achieve freedom and liberty, but they aren't even close to it yet. You Arabs who call yourselves "Palestinians" have repeatedly refused independence and repeatedly subjected yourselves to brutal leadership of Fatah and Hamas. What "free people in the free world" are you talking about? You mean that freedom loving people who live in free western democracies want a new country called "Palestine" (that never existed before, as we all know) that will be just another brutal Arab dictatorship? Dream on, Salma. Ain't gonna happen.
36. Yes But there are opposing considerations on both sides
Shalom Freedman ,   Jerusalem Israel   (05.16.11)
Israelis do want a Palestinian Arab state if that means an end to the conflict, no violence anymore, end to the process of undermining Israel's legitimacy, absence of Palestinian Arab efforts to make life miserable for Israelis, a true kind of peaceful relationship between peoples, no security threat. And Palestinians do want a Palestinian state , if it is a means toward undermining the security of Israel and eventually destroying it. i.e. The great majority of Israelis do want Peace. The great majority of Palestinian Arabs do want the destruction of Israel. Thus the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state will always be for Israel a gamble, a risk in the way Oslo was. Oslo did not work out. Will a Palestinian Arab state? At this moment it does not seem likely or even very attractive. But the alternatives do not seem very attractive either.
37. #15 - who wanted Israel?
Michael Gerson ,   Paris   (05.16.11)
Who wanted Israel? The League of Nations after WW1 and the UN after WW2 . The Palestinian Arabs don't want a state of their own actually - but they do want one thing above all: to destroy the Jewish state and grab all its assets.
38. You just don't get it
ginger ,   Providence, USA   (05.16.11)
The land of Israel belongs to Jews. Those Arabs who remain in Israel, some of whom have been crafted into a group called Palestinians to be a torn on the side of Jews, will have to go. All this talk of state and non-state is not consistent with the land belonging to Jews, and therefore a waste of time. The sooner Jews realize this and unite behind it the sooner we will have peace.
39. The implementation of UN Security Council Resolution, 242,
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (05.16.11)
is the only realistic and sustainable way out of the Arab Israeli conflict. The "Palestinians" refuse to implement it, as is, because the very thrust of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) has never been but the elimination of Israel and not the achievement of an accommodation of peaceful coexistence between Arab and Jew, between the Muslim-Arab world and the nation-state of the Jewish people. Sadly, the present occupant of the Oval Office is still no aware of this reality...!! It is time for a change...!!
40. the answer is very simple
gdfathermax ,   tel aviv israel   (05.16.11)
build. build. build in the west bank, historically always the land of our people, another million or two jews and the fake pali state will disappear in dust.
41. is sionism a crime?
ale ,   italia   (05.16.11)
of course. it's a terrific crime. sionism isn't bi-partisan, but is a privileges system only, racial system. in this deviated world ( where settlers are heroes and others only goim) that's israel, there are journalist that write wrong words, and sionists that believe in this crazy words. journalist ( " the Palestinians themselves don’t want a state" ) is out of mind, sionists are in the right land: israel, where others are simply goim........... all world, all people in the world ask Palestinian State. so , Peace, raises in all world..... stop settlers , start Peace. but sionist don't understand.... they haven't journalists...
42. lets start packing..
Karina ,   Finland   (05.16.11)
I think Palestine should move to Germany ! ;)
43. "who wanted Israel?"
Karina ,   Finland   (05.16.11)
I do! so you would destroy Israel and then everybody is happy?? strange people..
44. How own´s the Land of Israel
AH ,   finland   (05.16.11)
#15.the Holy book of christians and Judish people tell that the land of israel belongs to the jahve; God himself and that He has given it to the decendants of Abraham, Iisak, and Jackob(Israel). So thats makes it very clear and everyone howdon´t know can read this form Genesis 13:17 and Genesis 15:18 and Gesesis 17:19. and What happens to Israel it will never disapear. And what happens to the neibouring countrie read Ezekiel 35,36. Good Day to all of you. My God, Jahve, Elohim is Great and Awsome God. There is no other God than Him.
45. Beware of US foreign policy...
Sobieski ,   Germany   (05.16.11)
it mostly leads to disaster
46. they would like to resolve religious, ideological and st
wael ,   Palestine   (05.16.11)
they would like to resolve for religious, ideological and strategic reasons. this the truth in this article
47. and I say Amen to that Haifa guy!
Moragh   (05.16.11)
48. I'd like to start the country "Noodleland" in the West Bank.
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (05.16.11)
I promise to let all my "settler" brothers stay and build as much as they want. And maybe even a few token Arabs can stay also, as long as they behave themselves.
49. #48, Noodles...I hope You will take me in
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (05.16.11)
!!!!
50. And what's the difference of a Palestinian State and
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (05.16.11)
Dearborn Michigan????? They just showed up......and could care less if they have a state. Given enough time....they will rename the place...The United States of Palestine.
51. All free people in the world ?
pierre   (05.16.11)
Salma, # 26. Did you mean Lebanon, Syria,Jordan,Kuwait,Tunis, Yemen,Saudia, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Qatar, afghanistan, Maroc, Sudan, Oman, Somalia,Egypt.Gaza. I feel sorry for you, endorsing a band of cutthroats, stealing from their " beloved people " trillions $ ", killing them by the thousands if they dare to oblect, living in palaces, while the masses must do with the gutter, cemeteries, carboard or plastic shacks..Except for Obama, America doesn't want a palestine, The EU dito,Russia and China couldn't care less about a palestine. It leaves the 1.4 billion of you less the listing above who despise you. SO, were the hell are you going to build your country . Israel is here to stay, Jerusalem as always will remain Jewish. They might be able to squeeze you in the north pole .... !
52. Relax - It will NEVER happen
Jay Bales ,   NJ, USA   (05.16.11)
Plocker has it right when he says no Arab entity - Pals included - really want a Palestinian state alongside Israel, although the US led by O enthusiastically supports it and even Israel would go along with it under reasonable circumstances (which will never materialize of course). What he misses, and what it seems everyone posting also misses, is that there is also no interest in a Palestinian state INSTEAD of Israel. If Israel heaven forbid WERE destroyed, do you think a Palestinian state, democratic or otherwise, would pop up? Not a chance. Egypt would grab one piece, Jordan a slice and Syria the rest -- and that would be the PERMANENT end to the dream of a Palestinian state. Let 1948-1967 be your guide.
53. Only the American Le;ft feels this way
sbenard ,   Bountiful, USA   (05.16.11)
Most Americans I know disagree with forcing Israel to accept a Palestinian state. Only the American LEFT wants this, and they are only about 20% of the population. Unfortunately, one sits in the White House. The rest of us support Israel!
54. then let God solve it
funkybodhi ,   India   (05.16.11)
if God had been so kind to give his/her own land to Abraham and his clan how about getting him/her to come up with the paperwork ! Look at all the trouble God has created
55. 10 - far less than the American Indian reservations.
split ,   US   (05.17.11)
What they want it's not a prosperous and an independent neighbour that they would have to compete with but a cluster of cheap labour ghettos with sheepish, pacified population dependent on them, called a swiss cheese,...
56. to nr.26.
justice for all ,   world/planet earth   (06.14.11)
you are right. it is not up to plocker whether a palestinian state is to be established or not. he should mind his own business with his own country and people.
57. to nr. 21
justice for all ,   world/planet earth   (06.14.11)
i do not agree. the us should mind its own us- business and leave the rest of the world alone. down with us-lecturing what other countries/peoples must do and to hell with us-dominance/hegemony/rule/imperialism over the entire world. we are all equal (in value), the entire mankind and all countries/peoples.
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