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Rose's grandmother commits suicide
Raanan Ben-Zur
Published: 20.05.11, 16:38
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1. A tragedy....
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor, UK   (05.20.11)
of Shakespearean proportions. The sad, lonely death of a grandmother, mourning and quite possibly blaming herself for the tragic death of her little granddaughter Rose. A tale of broken familes, psychologically scarred people with poor social and emotional skills, who fall through the safety net,. We need to ask ourselves: how can a thing like this happen and can we do anything to adjust/improve our social services, so we can reduce the chance that tragedies like this are repeated. I would like to think that would be the case in a more caring society, where we care about our neighbours and others in the wider community.
2. Oye! So very sad!
Amalia ,   Israel   (05.20.11)
This whole story is very sad indeed. May G-d have mercy upon all of these souls.
3. I am confused....
aline silverman ,   israel   (05.20.11)
....So who was interviewed on the radio yesterday after the court's verdict? She spoke French and was introduced as Roses's grandmother.
4. Rose's grandmother death
Donna ,   Paulden USA   (05.20.11)
How very sad for everyone involved.
5. A tragedy of course !!!!
aline silverman ,   israel   (05.20.11)
a DOUBLE tragedy !!!!
6. ...and it took the media...
Adam ,   Golan Heights Israel   (05.20.11)
...two whole weeks to report this? The media has absolutely no morality and sickens me.
7. To Aline - the grandmother
In reply ,   Israel   (05.20.11)
I assume the woman who spoke on the radio was Rose's PATERNAL grandmother, or Ronny Ron's ex-wife. As I understand it, Ronny Ron was divorced and his wife and son returned to France. In later years, the son and Marie Renault had a relationship in which Rose was born. They visited Israel together and stayed with Ronny Ron. A romance then developed between Ron and Marie Renault ( Ronny Ron stole his son's girlfriend). The son returned to France disgusted and at some point looked after Rose there. However, Marie Renault sued him for custody of Rose and won. She then brought Rose to Israel. Rose had been in France a few years and had difficulty with Hebrew. Marie Renault had another 2 children from Ronny Ron. They seemed to decide that Rose was "in the way". Ronny Ron's mother looked after her for some time but Ron collected her and murdered her. May she rest in peace poor soul.
8. Rose grandmother
Helene ,   Merkaz   (05.20.11)
The grand mother interviewed yesterday on radio is the mother of Benjamin PIzem, Rose biological father who lives in France. She met Roni Ron over 20 years ago had this son with him but never married Roni. The woman who commited suicide in Normandie is Marie- Charlotte's mother, the one who has been convicted of murdering little Rose.
9. #1 Wow, you wrote a normal post ..for once
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (05.20.11)
Keep it up!
10. anyone who murders their own child......
jessica ,   Israel/USA   (05.21.11)
deserves the death penalty - too bad they don't live in Florida! May G-D bless that adorable little girl's soul! What a sick and tragic story!
11. it wasnt ronny ron...
eporue ,   europe   (05.21.11)
well, maybe marie didnt call her... but, err, nobody else really tried to reach marie either...
12. jmho
eporue ,   europe   (05.21.11)
it wasnt murder and ronny ron didnt do it... he admitted to it, in order to protect marie - rose mother... after having read all, it seems most likely that she might have lashed out... then it was homicide...
13. The grandmother knew her daughter and should have gotten
Rivkah   (05.21.11)
custody of Rose from a court. I personally know many women who have gone to court and gotten custody of grandchildren away from the children's parents and raised the grandchildren themselves. If the child or children are taken away from the birth mother and/or father by a social worker and the police it is not difficult for a grandparent to get custody. The children are better off and more righteous when grandparents raise them I have observed than if a drug addict or mentally ill mother does. I have lived in many places and everywhere I have lived I have observed grandmothers raising grandchildren as the legal guardian. It seems like there is a generation that is in rebellion against God and grandparents must step in and protect the grandchildren.
14. Rivkah #13
Non-Jew ,   England   (05.21.11)
Perhaps it was coming to a similar realisation (but sadly too late) that drove her to suicide.
15. 14 Non-Jew, England: You are right. She realized she
Rivkah   (05.21.11)
brought a monster daughter into the world and did not protect her grandchild. That is why praying for and with one's children must begin early in life. Keeping children apart from the ways of the world they must live in is a noble goal. The grandmothers I have known who raised grandchildren learned from the errors made in raising their children who failed the grandchildren. They kept the grandchildren out of the public schools, prefering religious schools at any cost to the godless public schools and the godless teachers and godless children that are there who corrupt and prey on God's little ones if they can get hold of them. The grandmothers who are raising grandchildren or who did so that I know are far more protective of them than they were of their children, having learned from the mistake of failing to see evil where it is. The grandchildren raised by grandmothers are far more likely to be in God's camp.
16.  Rivkah # 15
female ,   TA/A'dam   (06.13.11)
How can you believe in a God after reading this terrible tagedy, what kind of God is that....maybe there is no God and the world is just a scarry, dangerous place.....
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