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Say no to Palestinian state
Uri Orbach
Published: 23.05.11, 00:49
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1. NO to a palestinian state
Raddai ,   Jersualem   (05.23.11)
facebook.com/nopalestine Totally agree! Join us on Facebook!
2. Beautiful sombre truth. Will Israel say it ?
Nathan Rai ,   Bangalore   (05.23.11)
3. "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow,
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (05.23.11)
...segregation forever"
4. Almost right, but.......
Joshua ,   USA   (05.23.11)
While I mostly agree with Mk. Uri Orbach, I think that he misses one MAJOR point - the Palestinians have a right for their own state. That state already exists, albeit - wrongly named: Jordan. A state where 70% of the population is Palestinian, should be called Palestine. Such a state will have the critical mass to absorb their refugees, have access to a seaport, and could sustain itself if properly managed. There is NO WAY a Palstinian state could be established in the West Bank!
5. Good views
john ,   cardiff   (05.23.11)
Lieberman will love to adopt it fully.
6. Justice
Paul ,   CA, USA   (05.23.11)
President Obama, you don't need the Jews to win the next election there aren't that many of them out there!
7. Abram was born/came from Ur, Babylonia as emigrant
Samy ,   Canaan/Palestine   (05.23.11)
8. Palestine and Israel in peace
Lisa   (05.23.11)
All those who Support Zionism are Anti-American, they are destroying our country!
9. bibi speech must say no
moron ,   galut   (05.23.11)
arabs think they will get what they want from obama by always saying no..bibi must impose cost on them and also make it plain they will have something to lose grom their tactics..cant trust BHO because he still has emraced linkage and put all the real pressure on israel as there is no way to pressure arabs
10. Palestinians as our dhimmi- dumb and racist
Avi   (05.23.11)
11. Definite applause to Uri and his dream speech.
Israeli 2   (05.23.11)
WILL BIBI ACTUALLY SAY IT?!?
12. Israel must compromise
Nick ,   NYC, USA   (05.23.11)
or we in the US will stop blindly supporting Israel. We have our own problems. You can argue the matter ad nauseum, as many in this forum have done for years. But it won't change the facts. The US will continue to demand a two state solution. By the way, Bibi's not so tough, even though he talks the part.
13. Sounds good to me, go for it
J1 ,   Earth   (05.23.11)
14. on Uri Orbach
joel ,   usa   (05.23.11)
THERE WAS NEVER SUCH ATHING AS PALESTINIAN STATE UNDER THE OTTOMAN TURKS WHICH MADE THE ARABS IN THAT LAND THEIR SLAVES, UNTIL THE BRITISH CONQUERED THE AREA AND DROVE THOSE "TURKEYS" BACK TO THEIR "NEST", OK? AGAIN, THERE WAS NEVER A PALESTINIAN STATE AS HISTORY HAVE TOLD US, SO THERE IS REASON FOR SUCH CLAIM WHICH IS DECEPTION!
15. PEACE
YACOV ,   MIAMI USA   (05.23.11)
JORDAN IS PALESTINE, IT IS 75% PALESTINIAN.......THE ARABS ARE NEO-NAZIS.. JUDEA AND SHOMRON ARE PROMISED TO THE JEWS THROUGH ABRAHAM AND IN PROPHECY.. THE MOSLEMS WILL NEVER GET IT THEY ALREADY HAVE 52 COUNTRIES WHY DO THE JEWS STILL HAVE A GHETTO MENTALITY??
16. Orbach's delusion
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor, UK   (05.23.11)
"We shall offer livelihood and limited self-rule, we shall propose realistic co-existence, and we shall improve freedom of movement. We shall no longer offer a Palestinian state, but rather, the separate, in depth handling of each and every issue." In other words. Orbach's offers the Palestinian a reservation or a bantustan, an Israeli form of Apartheid. Is this guy nuts? Is he so delusional, that he thinks that the Palestinians or the outisde world, will accept this?! What will happen is that the Palestinians will engage in a civil rights struggle, the struggle for equality in a secular, non-sectarian, democratic state; one man, one vote. Just like the blacks did in the USA. And they will win!
17. Bravo Uri. That's what it will be
Eran ,   Singapore   (05.23.11)
18. Poetry...
Y.G. ,   Israel   (05.23.11)
... pure poetry.
19. Just say NO
Excuse ME ,   Israel   (05.23.11)
ANY "P" state means death to Jews & Israel
20. Perfect time to reject monstrous Two State Final Solution.
Chaim ,   Israel   (05.23.11)
All in all, Obama's disgusting speech serves Israel well. It removes Obama's mask and reveals his true Israel hating nature. If there was any doubt. Which there never should have been. The outflow of American support for Israel, as a result of Obama's loathsome speech, demonstrates that most of America would support Israel in firm rejecting the monstrous Two State Final Solution. Although Israel must reject it, no matter what. Judea and Samaria legally belong to Israel and are vital for Israel's survival. Now is the perfect time to announce Israel's official rejection of the Two State Final Solution.
21. PA State = National Suicide
BJL ,   usa   (05.23.11)
22. No No NO To Your "Peace" Mr. Uri Orbach.
Salma ,   Palestine   (05.23.11)
Listen, the only peace that we can accept is : Palestinian state on the pre-June 1967 borders , all of East Jerusalem as its capital and the return of Palestinian refugees. if you say No to OUR Peace then you have one choice , Annex West Bank & Gaza to " Israel", and give the 3.5 million Palestinian the "blue ID cards". plz remember that the neighboring Arab regimes are today barely able to maintain its survival. boker tov every body : )
23. MR. ORBACH, ISIT SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU ?
FO ,   Belgium   (05.23.11)
You write "We shall demand and realize our just rights in our homeland in Judea and Samaria our ancestral land". Nice i But why don't you add that these rights are included in International Law as voted in an unanimous vote by all the 51 members of the League of Nations, the 24th of July 1922, an irrevocable right, unaltered in International Law and valid to this day due to Article 80 of the Charter of the United Nations ? Of whom are you scared to utter this basic truth?
24. Why would any Palestinian look forward to such peace?
Native ,   Historic palestine   (05.23.11)
My Openion... There will be no Peace, No PA. There will forever people live under military occupation in Palestine. They will resist, and sooner or later Israel may pay a heavy price to its irrogance. Palestinian State is to Israel and US favor, at the end Palestinian accepting to go for less than 10% of Historic Palesine.... Can anyone imagine that in 1948!!!
25. #7
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (05.23.11)
Thank you for the history lesson. Abram, the forefather of Jews and Arabs, immigrated to Israel. And then the land of Israel was given to his children the Jews, and Arabia was given to his children the Arabs. It is all written in the Koran which is really all that matters, don't you think?
26. #22
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (05.23.11)
I respect your honesty and I think that within your "narrative" your demands are justified. You are even moderate, not demanding the expulsion or murder of Jews like the majority of the Arabs. The problem is that the only people who respect you enough to listen are in the Israeli Right wing. The Leftists who say that they want peace treat you with contempt and ignore what you say.
27. Ahh the right rises again
Gabriel ,   Tel Aviv   (05.23.11)
In all its stupidity. It's like "hey world, please boycott us". I also love how every right-winger uses the same logic" The Palestinians don't want a two-state solution, they want to destroy us which is why we don't want a two-state solution". There is no other choice for Israel long-term. Either we make peace or we will not exist. The world (including the US) will not allow us to keep taking land so that settlers can live on a hill top somewhere.
28. @7 Abram was born/came...All with Allah's blessings.
(05.23.11)
Just like the modern state of Israel.
29. 12 "Bibi not so tough", but enough to put BO in his place.
(05.23.11)
You want to compromise with terrorists? Good luck with the new 9/11's.
30. @22 Rejecting peace again, eh Salma??
Eli   (05.23.11)
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