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Lenin's Jewish roots confirmed
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Published: 24.05.11, 14:38
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31. Well, we know Ghandi wasn't Jewish man.He just slept with em
Mike ,   Atlanta USA   (05.26.11)
32. Sprotje , Most great Contributors to Humanity
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (05.26.11)
were Jewish . But you have descendants of Jews , with a converted jew as grand parent , who behaved badly too . And , when a "Jew" comitted crimes , it was NEVER as a Jew , but as a goy .
33. #29
Harold ,   USA   (05.26.11)
I used to be a Jew before baptism. I love the Jews but I don't like Zionism and the leaders of Israel. Jews are nonviolent people but the leaders of Israel who immigrated from Europe and America are not hundred percent Jewish.
34. Every time there is an evil meglomaniac
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (05.26.11)
somebody comes up with a theory that they are Jewish. I dont believe any of it.
35. 26 No Harold...
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (05.26.11)
you were not a Jew before baptism. It doesn't work like that. To be a Jew you need a Jewish mother or to go through a formal conversion. If a real Jew gets baptised he is still a Jew, but a sinner. If he later wants to come back to Judaism, he doesn't have to convert, only to repent.
36. Jewish people is the cream of..
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (05.26.11)
humanity,and needs more than any other society PURITY-not to turn sour.
37. 35 - To be a Jew you need a Jewish mother
split ,   US   (05.26.11)
Despite all those wars, an invasions enslavement's and what comes with it a RAPES since Abraham's days the Jewish mother not only survived but also untouched ;) ,... Yeah right ;) ,...
38. All Lies, Lenin Never tolerated Jewish zionist movements!!
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (05.26.11)
Any person who read Lenin, know his works full of fight with Jewish zionist groups Especially BUND, jewish zionist workers. Besides Lenin is not jewish origin, he may have jews in ancestors by marriage, however he is rather tatar-asiatic origin. He is one of the greatest genious of last century whether you like his ideas or not. Just look over his NoteBooks of Philosophy or other some notes, you will see his intellectual depth is uncomparable to any other. He knows almost 10 or so languages, I am not sure of exact number of languages he knows, but English, French, german, italian, latin, greek..., and some slavic dialects etc. I have not chanced Hebrew among them! As for Jewishenss he was ateist and not a believer of any religion.
39. #20 read post #8. that's it. end
yoav ,   frankfurt germany   (05.26.11)
40. Harold USA: You are brilliant
yoav ,   frankfurt germay   (05.26.11)
41. #37 Did get the concept right?
yoav ,   frankfurt germay   (05.26.11)
42. #35
Harold ,   USA   (05.27.11)
To be a Jew I have to have a Jewsih mother. That happened just after war world two so that a Jewsih woman can get gentil sperm to change the Jewish image. Nothing more or less. By the way baptism is a seal and no one can remove it until death.
43. 41 - Did get the concept right? (End)
split ,   US   (05.28.11)
Yes I did and I think it's a nonsense to insist that let say a woman enslaved by Mongols and raped gave a life to a half a Mongol daughter that was sold to a Tajik gave a birth to a girls that were sold to a Buryat got raped again and on and on for generations can still give a birth to a Jew related to Abraham the way the Palestinian or anyone from that part of the world is,...
44. Lenin and Ben Gurion?
Chris ,   Dallas, America   (05.30.11)
From my studies, yes, the Communists were not real thrilled with Zionism and Jewish nationalism; however, an intriguing bio of Ben Gurion that I read in the early nineties placed him in Moscow on the heels of the Revolution, going to various conventions representing Jewish worker issues and so on. And, of course, Israel didn't really break with the USSR till the Nasser period, when the Russians took the Arab side in those pre-Quartetish days. This is actually an intriguing topic. I can see many sides of it. One quesiton: Does anyone know if Ben Gurion had any contacts with Lenin? He seemed to have many links to Moscow as well as helping to foster Labor Zionism in the Holy Land. BTW, if anyone was Joshua in the modern times, Ben Gurion was it.
45. Lenin's Tomb
Chris ,   Dallas, America   (05.30.11)
If indeed Lenin was of Jewish background, his present status as a public curiosity would be rather strange, I would think. Time for a proper Jewish burial? Of course, as one can see, there are theories about HItler, Ahmadinejad, Qaddafi, etc. No doubt, Karl Marx was of provable Jewish background, as was Mr. Trotsky, etc. Somehow I don't see Mr. Lenin's remains going over to Jerusalem for very proper burial anytime soon.
46. Chris
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (05.31.11)
The good relations between Israel and the USSR cooled off after this country showed his antisemitism with the "doctors plot" trial . This anti Israel politic began when the USSR undertood that Israel will not become their satellitte state in the middle east , major reason for their support in the late 40' . This cooling happened some years before Nasser's accession to power . Regarding Lenin's remains : no reason to transfer them to Israel . He was NOT Jewish at all , did'nt do anything in favor of Israel [ he died in 1924 ]
47. Thanks, Charles
Chris ,   Dallas, America   (05.31.11)
I appreciate your point about the USSR and Israel. That seems to make a lot of sense. As to Lenin, Hitler, Ahmadinejad, Qaddafi, Arafat(yes), Bin Laden, etc. being Jewish, these things won't die and I wouldn't put too much stock in them one way or the other, since the historical results won't change. And, of course, most of us are aware of how the Mormons view some of these issues. Bottom line is we all breathe the same air, put our pants on one leg at a time, and are all mortal. The rest is commentary at the end of the day.
48. Chris
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (05.31.11)
Roger Peyrefitte has written a book "les Juifs" where he tells that De Gaulle and Queen Elizabeth II , amongst others , have Jewish roots . So if you go far enough , many people certainly can have Jewish ancestors . In the other direction , many Jews must have non Jewish asncestors too .
49. Charles
Chris ,   Dallas, America   (06.01.11)
The late Dr. Gene Scott sent me a genealogical chart of Queen Elizabeth's with her ancestry going back to King David. Pretty heady stuff, to say the least. It does seem in the Old World Jews mixing with non-Jews or Christians was something of a taboo issue. In the USA during the 19th and early 20th centuries, the issue was Native American mixing with European;however by the 1970s or so that was pretty much a non-issue. And, of course, the very explosive issue was between Black and White, especially with Jim Crow laws and the one drop rule. That seems to be levelling off in most of the country,although I'm sure some will continue to make it a problem. The issue of Jew and non-Jew in the states seems to be more of a religious issue between families than anything else, but on a societal level it's pretty tame. Adam and Eve, eh? How long have these two been doing their thing? Seems they will always transcend our limitations vis a vis race, religion, class, ethnicity, etc. Gotta watch em like hawks :^).
50. 48 49Thanks for most interesting...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (06.01.11)
information. Good example of what TBs could be.
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