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Tradition trumps diplomacy
Dan Calic
Published: 25.05.11, 23:51
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31. Jamal: you prove Calic's claims
Yitzhak ,   Israel   (05.26.11)
with your claims of victimhood by a ruthless Israeli/Jewish enemy in which the Israelis are completely evil and the Palestinians completely innocent. Do you want to trade atrocity stories? We can if wish. Let's start with the Palestinian massacre and ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Jews of Hebron. Or the Palestinian rioting and massacre of the Jews in Jerusalem in the same year. Or, the Palestinian massacre of the Jewish workers at the Haifa oil refinery in early 1948. Or the massacres and/or expulsions of the Jewish residents of Gush Etzion, Yad Mordechai, Gush Katif or Jerusalem's Old City during the 1948 war. Or the massacres of Jews all around the Arab world, such as the 1941 massacres of hundreds of Jews in Baghdad and Basra, or the massacres of Jews in Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Syria, Algeria BEFORE Israel declared statehood. Or, the mere fact that the Palestinian political leadership collaborated openly and enthusiastically with Nazi Germany including planning with the Nazis to assist Nazi armies invade Palestine and exterminate all the Jews there. This didn't happen only because the Nazi Afrika Korps were defeated by the British in Egypt, to the disappointment of millions in the Arab world. Want more history of Arab misdeeds? I have reams of it. Want to stop the tit for tat nonsense? I would be delighted to do that all the more. Let's face it, your side and my side have innocent blood on our hands. The only real question should be how to stop it and move forward. Interested? I hope so.
32. Jamal #26 you just proved the author correct again
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (05.26.11)
Sabra and Shatila had 700-800 people (civilians not proved) by CHRISTIANS seeking revenge for hundreds on terrorists attacks. Sharon was not held to directly responsible for Christian-Arab actions. Not one single Jew was involved ever. As for those 1200 years of shelter included hundreds pogroms and massacres, care to comment about that? Bet not - the Arabs have proven to liars, thieves and murderers.
33. #3 Wrong
Madeleine ,   Rehovot Israel   (05.26.11)
The land was not stolen, it was given to the Jews under a signed agreement. The Arabs then fled at the behest of the invading arab armies, who needed a clear route for their tanks and armies. They were encouraged to go to their "brethren" in syria, Jordan and Lebanon, who put them in refugee camps and keep them there to this day. israel did not force them to flee, but encouraged them to stay and those who did enjoy full Israeli citizenship and rights. The so-called refugees gave up any rights when they left here, hoping to return when all the Jews were did. Please stop this stolen land myth.
34. #13
simchah ,   haifa,Israel   (05.26.11)
I guess 6 million Jews volunteered to be slaughtered on anti-Semitic, blood-soaked Polish soil!I lived in Poland as a child & was constantly cursed & told to"Go to Palestine!". Thank G-d I am in our beautifull Israel-come & see how we build,while PA only destroys!
35. To Moise#3. Israel was created on land given by YAHWEH.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (05.27.11)
YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord, gave the tract of land called Israel {which includes Judea & Samaria (nowadays known as the West Bank), the Golan Heights, and other parts} to the Jewish People as their Homeland -- as reported by Moses the Lawgiver in circa 1250 B.Chr. So, Moise, Israel is established on the land given by YAHWEH (the Supreme Owner of everything in the universe) to the Jewish People. But you say Israel is established on stolen land. So, it boils down to your words against the words of Moses the Lawgiver. Whose words will be accepted by sane people of the world -- your words or that of Moses the Lawgiver ? What do you think ? SANE persons will accept the words of Moses the Lawgiver. No sane person will accept your words. IF the broader world goes against the decision of YAHWEH the Supreme Lord -- the broader world will be severely punished by YAHWEH the Supreme Lord.
36. Jamal, funny how you guys
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (05.27.11)
always bang on about Sabra/Shatilla and Deir Yassin. Were we Israelis to respond by naming every Arab atrocity directed towards Jews, we would have to write pages. Get an education, boy - you've lived too long listening to the old guys in the cafes bawling about their lost orange orchards that never were, and rattling their rusty keys which probably opened outhouses.
37. to Jamal 4
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (05.28.11)
Read post 23 and the answer him.I would love to read your reply.
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