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CA Evangelicals oppose circumcision ban
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Published: 20.06.11, 07:49
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1. Laws upside down
Beaulah ,   Chennai, India   (06.20.11)
While there is no one standing out to ban the riduculous abomination - homosexuality why is that humans stand against the pure laws of the Creator always?
2. if evangelicals oppose it
federa   (06.20.11)
then its bound to pass. Cant stand in the way of progress. In 50 years time all three religions will be history...hopefully. Imagine a world without Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Sounds pretty good, huh..
3. The ungodly of San Francisco are shaking their fists at YHWH
Rivkah   (06.20.11)
Not too bright of them. Especially with the Poles shifting this year and more earthquakes expected and San Francisco is near the San Andreas faultline. I was reading to day about the prophesies of Zechariah. He said that a third of Israel which includes America (Josef the hammer of the whole earth and Mansseh) will survive the coming nuclear holocausts and fires. A third of America and a third of Judah (Israel in the Middle East). A third! That will be supernatural and do you know what that means? The wicked, vile, perverted, gays and lesbians and transvestites and sodomites and murderers and rapists and all the other refuse of San Francisco are going to be crispy critters while YHWH preserves His elect...who happen to have circumcisions for their baby boys on the eighth day after birth. All the vile uncircumcised God haters are going to fry. Their opinion won't matter much at that point. They are bringing on their own destruction, but YHWH will preserve His own. As Isaiah in chapter 14 says, YHWH will walk His own through the fires and the floods...but chapters 65 and 66 says YHWH will not protect swine eaters or those who eat unclean foods. The uncircumcised in Scriptures means the heathen. God's people have their boy babies circumcised.
4. you know circumcision makes sense
foreskinman   (06.20.11)
when someone of Rivkahs intellectual stature endorses it as a supernatural protection from Gods coming wrath of fire and brimstone. What should I do about my foreskin. Hmmm. Get someone to cut it off? Yeah right--about as keen on that as having someone lop off my lips or my nose.
5. bris ban
nosson tzvi ,   J-M Israel   (06.20.11)
First of all, I don't think that the good people of California would join the wicked Russian Communists in banning circumcision. These "Liberals" would ban christenings of babies because the babies can't say no. The PA. Dutch fled Europe because they were Anabaptists- which means that they delayed the ceremony until their young people could make the decision on their own. Bullies and wicked people can play their nasty games from either side of the coin.
6. AT RIVKAH: WITH TALK LIKE YOURS...
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (06.20.11)
IT'S NO WONDER SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ANTAGONISTIC TOWARD RELIGION. YOU MUST BE ABSOLUTELY PERFECT, EH? I AM RELIGIOUS AND HAPPEN TO AGREE THAT THERE WILL BE A PUNISHMENT FOR GOING AGAINST HASHEM AND HIS LAWS, HOWEVER, THE WAY YOU WAVE IT IN THE FACES OF NON-BELIEVERS AND HOW YOU ARE SO CONFIDENT ABOUT WHERE YOU STAND, IT MAKES ME A LITTLE NAUTIOUS. AND IT ALSO MAKES ME FEEL THAT WITH YOU I'M NOT IN GOOD COMPANY. I CANNOT STAND THIS KIND OF TALK. THE 'YOU'LL FRY IN HELL' TALK. HASHEM WANTS US TO BRING AS MANY PEOPLE AS WE CAN BACK TO HIM AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO IT IS WITH LOVE. YOUR HATEFUL TALK AND SELF-RIGHTEOUS ATTITUDE ONLY TURNS PEOPLE AWAY FROM HASHEM AND I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT WILL PLEASE HIM. PERSONALLY I THINK YOU MIGHT NEED A LITTLE HELP.
7. 'FORESKINMAN' I THINK YOU ARE A BIT CONFUSED...
JANEY   (06.20.11)
IF YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS YOUR BODY PARTS THAN YOU ARE ONLY THE SUM OF YOUR PARTS, NOTHING MORE. WHAT ABOUT YOUR SOUL? HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT? YOUR BODY IS TEMPORARY. YOUR SOUL IS ETERNAL? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT?
8. Hey Federa #2, In 50 years, you'll probably be history!
Sargent Preston ,   U.S.A.   (06.20.11)
When ever someone predicts the demise of the Jews, it just never seems to happen. Other religions aren't about to vanish either.
9. to 42
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (06.20.11)
you are not Jewish-it does not apply to you.You obviously worship the foreskin -good for you.
10. 6 settherecordstraight: Darkness hates the light.
Rivkah   (06.20.11)
11. Leaving the religious issue aside........
Mike Carmel ,   Rishon le Zion   (06.20.11)
Circumcision is good for several reasons. A circumcised penis is cleaner, more hygenic, less prone to infections, more sensitive and achieves stronger erections than an uncircumcised one. All good reasons to get circumcised!
12. #2 The Jewish religion, the oldest religion
Yehuda   (06.20.11)
has been around for 3,323 years. What makes you belive that in 50 years it'll be history? In fact, it seems that the Jews and the Jewish religion will be around for longer than any other nation. As Mark Twain said in 1899: "The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?"
13. 8
fedora   (06.20.11)
you are right - organised religions will not vanish so long as there are millions of people like Rivkah in the world.
14. 12
fedora   (06.20.11)
I dont really believe those three religions will disappear. It is just wishful thinking. I believe the world would be a better place without them. For a start circumcision could be banned without everyone getting their knickers in a twist.
15. Hashem is smarter than you.
Devorah   (06.20.11)
A baby's blood is at its peak ability to clot on the 8th day. They didn't know that back in Abraham's day, but Hashem did. Homosexuals don't like circumcision because it supposedly decreases the thrill, and what's more important than the thrill right? I hope the evangelicals win.
16. I'm waiting for the law suits
Bless israel. ,   United States   (06.20.11)
no one has the right to step in between religious rituals and their own Dr. no one. If a parent wants the child circumcised, and if the law penalizes them, certainly a judge can straighten it out. San Francisco is apparently unaware of the legal and costly grandstanding they are trying to initiate by this anti religious stance. They haven't got a leg to stand on. Too many years of successful circumcisions have already taken place and these gays trying to stop it are nuts and should not only be challenged in courts, they should be removed from office. The uncircumcised male may be okay with them but, have they asked a women what she thinks? NO. Uncircumcised men are ( to me ) physically repulsive and unclean.
17. Religions wont go away but, you will.
Bless israel. ,   United States   (06.20.11)
18. # 12 Yehuda thank you for this post.
Bless israel. ,   United States   (06.20.11)
Many forces have tried to eliminate the Jews. They mistakenly believe that once the Jews are gone, so is our religion and, our G-d. The reason we survive is our G-d, ( whether or not we are observant . ) Once He makes a promise, He always keeps it. Those who make war with the Jews make war with G-d. They cannot accept that our G-d is the only G-d and they war in vain. Shalom.
19. #14 A better place without religion you're saying?
(06.20.11)
If there's no religion, there are no laws and the government can decide on the laws they want to enact. You'll end up like Nazi Germany where murder was the law.
20. BACK AT RIVKAH: U CALLING URSELF 'LIGHT'? YOU'VE GOTTA BE
SETTHERECORDSTRAIGHT   (06.20.11)
KIDDING!
21. Hail the circumsized penis.
Talula ,   Israel   (06.20.11)
They are much nicer looking than non circumsized ones. I don't care for the religous reasoning - they just look nicer.
22. SAN FRANCISCO IS THE MODERN DAY SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
GLENN ,   YUCAIPA,USA   (06.20.11)
23. No. 21 Talula
NYC Girl   (06.20.11)
I'm with you. In fact, I have several non-Jewish girlfriends, and because we're used to men being circumcised in this country (regardless of their ethnic background), a lot of these women would rather not get involved with those men who aren't circumcised. So these anti-circumcision guys can talk all they want about "losing feeling" if you're circumcised. But what good is it if you're not "getting any" because a lot of women don't like the way it looks in the first place?
24. #2 Sounds like USSR...
Ezra   (06.20.11)
... and nobody enjoyed it !
25. 23 LOL!!!! you are so right!
Talula ,   Israel   (06.20.11)
They don't get 'it' because they have ugly looking willies, that's funny!
26. Missing the point :)
Hugh7 ,   Porirua, New Zealand   (06.21.11)
All this misses the point. Cutting a baby's genitals violates his right to choose what parts of his own body to have or have cut off (almost certainly none of them) and his right to practise the religion of his choice - when he is old enough. This is not like any other decision parents make for children, because it's an irrevocable reduction. @#23 Talula: people like what they're used to, and where circumcision is not customary, people have no problem with men who have all they were born with. Isn't it the man on the other end who matters?
27. #23 NYC Girl
David   (06.21.11)
The same arguments about appearance can be used in favor of circumcising baby girls, but that does not make it acceptable.
28. #26 Of course the man matters - but still,
Talula ,   Israel   (06.21.11)
I wouldn't date anyone without a circumsized willy. They are just not very attractive - and excuse me for the vulgarity - gunk gathers in the hood. Not nice!
29. #28 Talula
David   (06.21.11)
have you had plastic surgery to tidy up your own appearance down there?
30. Abraham was not on Mars
Chris ,   Dallas, America   (06.21.11)
Yes, I can imagine a world without Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. It's called a very distant planet. Earth, of course, has such realities and there have been blessings and curses.
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