We came to this country to be with jews.Now some assimilated rich people try to dictate us ideals and notions which the people do not want.Take your money and weird problems and leave us alone.I hope that SHAS shall govern this country in future.

The progressive movement exists in this country too. It evolved from a group which was founded by 2 "traditional" Victorian Jews (so how are chassidic movements founded by traditional Jews more valid?). Do you know how impossible it is to make an Orthodox conversion in this country? Even though there is an Orthodox community in my city, they insist that all potential converts, leave their jobs, friends, families and homes to move to either London or Manchester. Not only does this hurt the potential convert, it hurts the existing Orthodox community which could use a new member. Often converts in my congregation are those with a Jewish parent or grandparent who assimilated, some are those that spent 4 years in an Orthodox conversion course and found it hard to adapt to an Ashkenazic shtetl mentality. The Liberal movement is one where you can mix your Ashkenazim and Sephardim, it'sthe only synagogue where the local Israeli families come on Yom Kippur. We keep kosher even if that means eating less meat, we discuss the torah portion every week, we keep families together, we support Israel, give to the JNF, our converts support Israel, our conversion classes teach traditional practice as well as modern. We're English, Scottish, Georgian, Israeli, Morrocan, Canadian, we speak Hebrew not Yiddish and we have to live in then real world!

and also came in Israel with the same feeling. But after years of living here, I prefer that Shas DO NOT govern this country. Thanks ;-)

but to destroy it is anarchy and cuts off ties to the development of Judaism. I dont agree, as a shomer shabbat non denominational Jew, with everything about reform conservative or orthodox...but Reform though it brings ahavat olam (love for the world to the table), it has no sure ties to Judaism of 3500 years before it. I could start my own religion and call it Judaism- thats basically what reform did in germany. do what you want, whenever and well stamp it judaism. No ones perfect, but the ideals and standards need to be authentic, something which reform, and conservative Judaism since ww2 has lacked.

conervative need to talk...reform (i was raised) with has leaders who are so far off the path its like inviting the lutheran clergy as Jewish reps to a conference on uniting the factions of Judaism. Reforms formations in Germany 1800.... everything but the cross

How can I be hypocrite ? Even if there are a lot of difference from on haredi sect to the other (I for instance doesn't agree with most of haredim rabbis), there still is an agreement in the whole orthodox world... Like the fact that if only the father of a child is jewish, then the child is not jewish (but zera israel, but it's another topic). Reform and Conservative changed it and are now trying to impose this. In history, when a current separate itself from the mainstream, it either overcome the mainstream or separate itself. Conservative and Reform are far from overcoming orthodoxy, especially in Israel where they are almost innexistant and where most seculars don't buy their opinion.

No reason to expect a relationship without tension -- who can blame Jewish Israelis for getting cranky when Diaspora Jews start weighing in on their national affairs? But I think it doesn't hurt to be realistic, either. How long can Israel survive as a Jewish state without the moral, economic, and political support of the Diaspora, most of whom are not Orthodox? Here in the U.S., we are already seeing waves of young Jews whose connection to Israel is frayed by the ultra-Orthodox power grab in Israel and its sneering contempt for the pluralism they see as the bedrock of a democratic society. They may be wrong. They may also not be wrong. Either way, the distance is growing. I think that can only be a bad thing, and I think gentlemen like Yishai are only making it worse.

who is a jew? somebody who was born to a jewish mother somebody who converted to judaism and follows mitsvoth 1 no jew can do all the mitsvot 2converts of any stream, specially those who live in israel, keep at least one: "yishuv ha'arets" the statement "your g-d is my g-d, your people is my people" was good enough in the past... besides, did anybody bother to think what will happen in two three generations when one will not be able to know with whom one is allowed to marry? and what about the chidren of those who do not really care? would it not be wiser to be "makel" and declare all converts jewish rather than run into a desasterous incertainty? personally, i think we should wellcome everybody who wants to join the jewish people cincerely without searching for their flauws

I wonder can if olim hadashim can have also have their nationality written in ID or only citizens who lived in Israel before 2002?