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Rivlin: Proud of 'Jewish' title on ID
Moran Azulay
Published: 21.06.11, 19:21
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1. nationality on ID card
kibbutznik ,   Israel   (06.21.11)
first of all the word for Nationality should be Israeli What Ishai wants here is "Religion" ! So what if someone comes from a long line of Orthodox /Jews and says he is secular, or agnostic? Are they going to come around to each household and check what people are doing on Shabbat? Since when did Israel change it's name to Iran?
2. YIshai's mess comes home to haunt him
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NY   (06.21.11)
There is no way to fix the mess Yishai made when he decided to defy the High Court decision to label as Jewish all converts regardless of religious affiliation. Now 9 years later he is reopening this mess and will get the same response from the public and the High Court. He forgets that seculars use the Internet, and that the Internet never forgets.
3. The Decision to Reinstate Nationality in ID card
Roman ,   IL   (06.21.11)
I think Yishai's decision to Reinstate Nationality in ID card shows his spineless attitude towards Israelis (Jews and Arabs alike). This proposal is Jewish on inside but Racist on outside. Unfortunately, Israelis are faced with a dilemma: To be Jewish state by Halacha or Democratic state by international laws and norms. Theological pressure really makes Israelis to look like Iranians, and this is simply wrong.
4. Can I choose NOT to have nationality written? Say "secular"?
Michael ,   California, USA   (06.21.11)
5. I like having yehudi in my ID card
golan ,   modiin   (06.21.11)
and it is not a religion but a nationality. I am a Jew because my mother is a Jew and not ****
6. Jewish nationality
Yehudi europi ,   France   (06.21.11)
If we're talking about Jewish nationality (ethnicity) as opposed to religion, then people with only a Jewish father should also be counted as Jewish if they so desire (like in the US). Why should religious or halachic criteria be used to define who is Jewish from a national point of view?
7. It already reflects it with the hebrew b'day or not
Yoni ,   Bnei Brak   (06.21.11)
Your ID card only gives your birthdate in hebrew if you are Jewish.
8. Should I make a DNA test?
Mark ,   J-lem   (06.21.11)
Honestly, this all looks like a spit on a law of return. Next thing you know, we are going to check for how much Jewishness someone have: "Oh! You have only 89% of Jews in your bloodline. I am afraid we can't allow you to vote... But you still have your right to pay taxes you know. That's still something! Just keep to positive things in life."
9. id card
david renous ,   raanana   (06.21.11)
please inform the ministry of interior to allowed All Religions to be allowed in the ID .....I am Tao/Confucius
10. NATIONALITY
Rick ,   Florida   (06.21.11)
Nationality: ISRAELI no need to divide Israelis like what this fascist Yishai is proposing!
11. discrimination
judith ,   tel aviv   (06.21.11)
even in these nine years that the clause was removed, in my renewed ID (lost the old one) my birth date did not appear according to the Jewish calendar, since only my father was Jewish, which on the other hand was enough for making aliya according to the Law of Return...so the whole thing is just a formality...
12. #6 Yehudi Europi, France
American Jew ,   Los Angeles, USA   (06.21.11)
You are ABSOLUTLEY RIGHT!!! I have never quite understood why the orthodox will not consider me Jewish, even though my Father is a Jew. It simply doesnt make sense in terms of ethnicity. Yishai needs to disappear!
13. Nationality by Michael #4: Here's the
Robert Haymond ,   Israel/Canada   (06.21.11)
answer as to whether you can choose "Jewish" or "secular": First, you have to be an Israeli citizen. From the history of your posts, sounds like you're a diaspora Jew totally out of sync with the state of Israel and ashamed, as well, of the Jewish homeland. So the answer is, Michael: Neither; you are not Israeli.
14. Yes to a Jewish state no to racism
Avramele   (06.21.11)
Israel is a Jewish state by virtue of it's language, majority culture, global ethnic ties and values. In matters of political and civil rights it must be a state for all it's citizens. In regard to legal and political matters the rights of an Arab or a patrimonial Jew or reform or masorati convert must be identical to the rights of a diaspora Jew in America, France or (how ironic) today's Germany. As our Zionist forebearers understood, normality has it's price.
15. 12 American Jew - Who is a Jew?
Bruriah Sarah   (06.21.11)
According to Jewish law, someone is a Jew if their mother was a Jew or if they convert. In Latin America, Chabad accepts those whom only their fathers were Jews and helps them take on the faith - and eventually these folks convert.
16. To #15
Yehudi europi ,   France   (06.22.11)
Why should Israel base its law on Jewish religious law to define who is a Jew. I think we need a civil and more inclusive definition. Why should somone have to convert if they feel already Jewish, are Jewish by their fathers, wives and children?
17. Chabbad in S America
Yehudi europi ,   France   (06.22.11)
Curious as to why Chabad would accept someone with a Jewish father in Latin America and not elsewhere? Can anyone explain this regional flexibility?
18. Please state "Secular" on my ID thankyou
Haim ,   Tel aviv   (06.22.11)
Religion does not and will not define me as a person. Religion afterall is a belief , a faith of which i do not share. As a secular person, i object to the wording "Religion" in my ID Card. I may be classed as Jewish by birth but i am not religious and do not wish to be classed or associated with such people as the likes of Eli Yishai thankyou very much.
19. To #16
Amihai ,   Yesha   (06.22.11)
You're not asking the right question. If being jewish should not be linked with jewish tradition (which exclude someone whose father is jewish but not mother), so what is it "being jewish" ? Then what is the difference between being jewish or being israeli ? BTW, someone in the situation you describe (I.E. if they feel already Jewish, are Jewish by their fathers, wives and children), the process is much easier than for someone with no jewish background.
20. Exactly what is the point of this legislation?
Danny   (06.22.11)
Whose identity is so insecure that they need a field in a ministry of interior database? Or on a piece of plastic. Yet again playing to the crowds rather than dealing with any issues.
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