Teenage girls indicted in Price Tag acts
Yair Altman
Published: 24.06.11, 12:05
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1. breaking the law
Joseph Charlap ,   Jerusalem   (06.24.11)
It's good news that these girls were indicted. They, and others have to learn that if they break the law there are consequences. Hopefully they will be suitably punished.
2. why indicted? those weren't against Jewish soldiers
observer ,   Egypt   (06.24.11)
who took down illegal outposts.
3. #1 I agree
observer ,   Egypt   (06.24.11)
It was breaking the Jewish law of "You shall not covet your neighbor’s house" whom you built on his own land. On a second thought, it is not the Jewish law which was broken but the tense tenth commandment.
4.  1). Breaking the Law
Moragh   (06.24.11)
Joseph Charlap: Aren't you quite the joker? The two treenagers torched a Palestinian car, a nd you are "hopeful" they will be suitably punished. My, my, aren't you quite the judge? Whilst the arabs (Palis) can freely murder as many Jews as possible these young girls have to be "suitably punished". A little bit of the A-licker, aren't you Joseph? or couldn't it be that you are one of the arabs???
5. Are their parents houses still standing?
Petteri ,   Finland   (06.24.11)
Same rules to everybody. For every act of terrorism the same punishment. Bulldoze the girls homes like you would do if the guilty ones are Palestinians.
GLENN ,   YUCAIPA,USA   (06.24.11)
7. #1 what you mean
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (06.24.11)
What you mean to say is: hopefully the police will have real (not fabricated) evidence that stands up in court, and it won't be another case of innocent people incarcerated for their political beliefs.
8. #1 - @Yoseph Charlap
Yaëlle Schlichting ,   Raubling Germany   (06.24.11)
I fully agree! +++ There is one thing, I would like to add. This indictment is one thing, but does the PA indict it's citizens for all the things they do against Jewish sites? No! They celebrate on the streets, if Palestinians set a Jewish site on blaze. I only ask, if any of the Palestinians who demonstrated at Joseph's Tomb and set a blaze there. +++ Yes it's right that these girls are brought to court. But the world already forgot about the Palestinians who did similar things and have not been punished. But the world will be furious if the girls would only receive light punishment because of their youth. And nobody in Israel would dare to just set them free because Palestinians also don't persecute such issues, too.
9. Justice for all.....
Froike ,   US NY   (06.24.11)
The act of destruction of anyone's property, should be repugnant to Jews. Should these Teens, be punished; absolutely. However, keep in mind, that when the Phillistines stone and burn Jewish property, they are considered religioius heros. When they murder,rape, pillage, and plunder in the name of their religion, to them it's a mitzvah. We should remember who we are and who they are. We are ethically and morally superior beings, G-d's Chosen; let us act accordingly. religion...
10. and the price tag reference means what?
Gur   (06.24.11)
poor and impenetrable journalism, as usual
11. Hmm... 4, 6, 7
Gentilly Lace ,   United States   (06.24.11)
#4 So they should let them go because Arabs do bad stuff too? #6 Defending their native soil from what? Are parked cars coming to life and killing people? #7 The Girls Politcal Beliefs = "We will be back for vengeance" "Death to Arabs" and "Prisoners of Zion". They seem innocent to me.
12. Ester, Judith & Deborah!
Uzi Galili ,   Israel   (06.24.11)
Those girls are Prophetesses Leaders of Israel!
13. Shame on these girls, a message must be sent to all settlers
christianpalestinian ,   hong kong   (06.24.11)
Settlers need to understand that they are living on stolen Palestinian land. There are consequences whenever crimes are committed.
14. If you are the size of other peoples
Robert ,   NY USA   (06.24.11)
Creating such a division against those fighting the same much larger enemy is stupid. Just making PR for the west and the rest, when they are wrong in the first place. They are not in the same situation either. So it is dumb. Non-Religious get away with worse. You think Moses was an athiest? What nonsense and injustice!
15. #3 NON-OBSERVER -- It's up to YOU
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (06.24.11)
It doesn't matter if you agree or not, you're a non-entity I'll give the opportunity to support the Arabs claim with some facts, just answer the easy questions that follow I am so fed up about your lot claiming your fictional Palestine as your "Ancient Homeland", without any of your lot able or willing to prove it Here are some rather simple questions, you be the genius and answer some of them, which, will of course prove your claim Explain why neither Palestine or Jerusalem are mentioned in the Koran, though both are mentioned in the Bibles of any denomination Name just three of its kings or rulers. What are their achievements? With which other peoples did the Palestinians interact? Where can one find any records where in the name of the country of Palestine or its people are mentioned? What Archaeological sites can one name? Where can one find the recorded history of these people? Whom did they conquer or were conquered by? Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or even now, leaves no room for misunderstanding? Can anyone name at least Five Palestinian leaders before Arafat? Since there is no such recognized country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur? Those who are lamenting the 'low sinking' of a 'once proud' nation, please tell us, when exactly was this proud nation brought down? By whom was it brought down? Also, what was it so proud of? And here are some very important historical facts and further relevant questions: Not even under the Ottoman Empire's 500 years occupation was the name of Palestine used for any part or section of the Holy Land for administrative purposes. If there were an entity called Palestine and its people Palestinians, it would beggar logic and belief that the Muslim Ottomans would not denote the area with their name. The ball is in your court, return it with the answers, just think, you will be the very first that will have been able to do so All the rest ducked away and went into hiding, and there are dozens of them
16. #18 Christian Shame on your boys
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (06.25.11)
who pretend to go to the Mosque on Friday to pray, then using its sacred environs as a shield to throw rocks at Jews who went to our Western Wall to pray Shame on your cowardly youth, who throw stones at passing cars and then run like rabbits when they're being pursued Shame on you for pretending that you're equal to the Muslim's, you're merely a Dhimmi, a person of lesser value in their eyes, just deceiving yourself as being their equal
17. Moragh
Joseph Charlap ,   Jerusalem   (06.25.11)
18. Glenn
Joseph Charlap ,   Jerusalem   (06.25.11)
You dont know what you are talking about.- "defending their native soil"- they were vandalizing someone's car. It isnt about defending anything, its just breaking the law, and also against Jewish law. this is what most of the settlers do.
19. #Yoseph Charlap
Joseph Charlap ,   Jerusalem   (06.25.11)
Yaelle, you are absolutely right of course, but I believe we should maintain our own standards of justice and not stoop to lower ones just because others do.
20. Response to #5
nadya ,   CA., US   (06.25.11)
I absolutely agree, same justice for all!
21. Their stellar patriotic motives do them credit.
Chaim ,   Israel   (06.25.11)
The offenses for which these girls were arrested are a far cry from theft, drunken brawling and other typical teenage offenses. Their stellar motives do them credit. The is little to no justice for Judea and Samaria Jews and people such as these girls have stepped in to fill the gap. Any sentence they receive should be lightened due to their selfless patriotic motives.
22. Justice should be served
Laurie ,   Avignon, France   (06.25.11)
What disgusting behaviour from these teenagers. The judge should throw the book at them. And as for some of the other readers' comments here trying to excuse or glorify these girls' behaviour, how disgraceful. You have no idea how badly your ignorance and racism makes Israel look to the outside world.
23. #15 ask your self the same questions
observer ,   Egypt   (06.25.11)
Where in the Torah of Moses Jerusalem is ONCE mentioned? Warning: Do NOT add to or subtract from the pure words of G-d in the Torah (Deuteronomy 4:2, Deuteronomy 12:32, Proverbs 30:5-6, Revelation 22:18-19, Galatians 1:6-12). The discoveries made by the new archaeology discredited a great exodus in the 13th century BC. Moses could not have led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the Promised Land, for the good reason that the latter was Egyptian territory at the time. And there is no trace of either a slave revolt against the pharaonic empire or of a sudden conquest of Canaan by outsiders. No one exiled the people of the country. The Romans did not exile peoples and they could not have done so even if they had wanted to. They did not have trains and trucks to deport entire populations. That kind of logistics did not exist until the 20th century. The chances that the Palestinians are descendants of the ancient Judaic people are much greater than the chances that you or I are its descendents. The first Zionists, up until the Arab Revolt [1936-9], knew that there had been no exiling, and that the Palestinians were descended from the inhabitants of the land. They knew that farmers don't leave until they are expelled. Even Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, the second president of the State of Israel, wrote in 1929 that, 'the vast majority of the peasant farmers do not have their origins in the Arab conquerors, but rather, before then, in the Jewish farmers who were numerous and a majority in the building of the land. The most crucial demographic addition to the Jewish population of the world came in the wake of the conversion of the kingdom of Khazaria - a huge empire that arose in the Middle Ages on the steppes along the Volga River, which at its height ruled over an area that stretched from the Georgia of today to Kiev.
24. Laurie #22
Korem ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (06.25.11)
I do agree that what these girls did is disgusting and if the evidence is sufficient they should be legally punished for it. There's no excuse for wishing death onto all the Arabs and torching someone's car for being Arab. But don't say "your ignorance and racism makes Israel look bad." Because unless you've lived here, visited here, read the news here daily, you can't fathom the psychological complexity of the conflict and why people on each side do the things they do. And neither can any other outsider. Ironically, it is ignorant to suggest Israelis are mostly ignorant. Meanwhile Palestinian acts that could be regarded as "ignorant" or as horrid go unnoticed or are disregarded by the international community. So while these girls did something very bad, no one in Israel should care what most of the world, especially European anti-Israel hordes, think of their "ignorance" and "racism."
25. #23 observer
Korem ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (06.25.11)
While I don't buy the argument that Palestinians are a non-entity (frankly, by being born, I believe people have the right to live on the land of their birth regardless of all the history of the past), your argument is utter nonsense as well. You don't need trucks to exile a population. You need swords and cavalry, there were no guns to protect oneself with and an overwhelming army that just burned a capital city could easily deport a population. But more importantly, Ben-Zvi's quote about Khazaria is useless because genetic studies have disproved that argument numerous times already. First of all, the Jews of Israel consist around 50% of Arab Jews who were exiled from Arab countries after facing discrimination, violence, and rioting for their religion. So Ashkenazi Jews, who you purport to be Khazars, make up roughly 50% of the Jewish population in Israel, not 100% as you seem to believe. But only 11% of Ashkenazis have the gene marker indicating Khazarian origins, and among those, it seems it was introduced by gene flow, or sex between different populations, and not a mark of origin. Finally, most importantly, all Jews share more in common genetically with other Jewish populations in other countries than they do with the natives of their country. So Polish Jews have more in common genetically with Persian or Yemenite Jews than Poles. This is genetic evidence of a common origin of Jews, and considering that Jews as a whole are most related to Palestinians and Kurds, Jews are a people of the Middle East, and belong in Israel.
BENJABO ,   ISRAEL   (06.25.11)
Get your ducks in order, I asked first, respond & then I'll take care of your inept questions
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