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Divorce recalcitrant gets unlimited jail term
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 29.06.11, 14:21
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31. to no. 26 - You are sick and you need help!
Being Jew ,   israel   (06.30.11)
May god help you to see the light of truth and gives to strength to get away from extremisum. Please go to some therepy and get help for yourself and for the sack of your children! If you are a mother, I worry about your children and the education they get from you. I am not de-grading you being a mother but your views will harm their whole future.
32. never believe your own publicity
mea   (06.30.11)
especially if you are a rabbi or one of his followers and you live ini srael where suddenly rabbis are deem gods with fiefdoms. that's all well and good until the absolute rule over personal affairs renders up someone so lost in 12th century think that he would rather waste his life in jail than allow a none penis bearing human some freedom. Imagine what it was like for this woman to be married to such a pig. perhaps this example will cause some to consider that perhaps just perhaps, marriage laws should be handled by secular courts instead of something akin to a record club from the 60s.
33. Did They Beat Him?
babawawa ,   new york, usa   (06.30.11)
Sitting in prison may be what this guy wants. Beat the crap out of him, like the old days. They do it here in the US - not openly of course. I've had women tell me they had it done and got what they needed. Personally, I say a widow doesn't need a get, if you know what I mean. FYI, the rabbaim don't have the authority to change Torah law. It can't be done. May Hashem bless this woman with all good things.
34. #26!!! Rivkah!! PLEASE!!!
Israeli 2   (06.30.11)
Not all men are angels. A woman has her rights as well and in Judaism, (Gittin) divorce IS allowed. That guy is not protecting her soul at all. He is so obstinate and selfish that he prefers to rot in jail than to grant her happiness with someone else. IF he truly loves her, he would allow her to divorce him the moment she required or requested it. The moment I will return to Israel and become king once more, this will be one of the first laws: Any woman wanting a divorce will be granted without question and/or reason. I promise!
35. hypocracy!
Golan ,   modiin   (06.30.11)
Isn't this religious coercion? where are all you leftists who say "we will not let Israel turn into an Iran" (but Leninist Russia is ok?) Yes these cruel abusers need to be coerced to release their wives (and husbands) but prison? We need to change the law (which is within Torah) to allow a divorce without sinking into such barbarity.
36. Michael,who do you think made Israel into a welfare state?
American Sabrah   (06.30.11)
None other than the secular socialists that you glorify and admire.If it weren't for them, there would be no government handouts for the haredim to shnor off of. Nor would the haredim and those who are financially struggling wouldn't have to rely on protexia to get ahead.For the record, protexia is what's crippling the Israeli job market and economy.You left wing enlightened cronies borrowed that concept from the Marxists and Leninists. If the government is going to treat its citizens like helpless children, then the citizens will be more dependent on them.This is what the founding fathers of Israel visualized. Socialism is a failed system. I tend to think that socialists are delusional. All it does is bankrupt the country by making the rich richer and the poor poorer.That is why I am more in favor of a Republic where government intervention is minimal. I feel the woman's pain and her recalcitrant abusive husband deserved to be punished for putting her through unnecessary misery. But they cannot move forward unless he issues her a Get.If he want her out of his life so badly, then why would he still keep her chained? If she were to get married in Cyprus, then her marriage wouldn't be recognized under Jewish law.She can also get a divorce there too and it still wouldn't be valid so it doesn't help matters. We cannot modify what halacha dictates just because of a few disgruntled irreligious Israelis like yourself who have no Torah knowledge whatsoever.
37. Um Rivka
American Sabrah   (06.30.11)
While a divorce is tragic, there are accentuating situations where its necessary.Jewish law does not condemn a woman to live a lifetime of misery. Everyone deserves to be happily married. If a husband won't live up to his obligations to satisfy and protect his wife (and vise versa) then she has the every right to leave him.How is she being sinful and adulterous by not wanting to live with her abusive husband who wants to control every aspect of her life? This is why the Torah forbids marriages without the woman's consent.Wife beating is also forbidden and she could take him to task. The agunot problem is very unfortunate. No woman should ever find herself in that situation and its the Beit Din's responsibility to preclude such circumstances. Women have rights too.There is no legitimacy for spousal abuse.
38. # 26
Mike Carmel ,   Rishon le Zion   (06.30.11)
What PLANET do you live on you stupid woman? It's people like you who perpetuate this type of antisocial irresponsible medeival behaviour.
39. get
colin   (06.30.11)
What happens when she dies ??? Does he remain in jail ? Here is the perfect example that the man should have the wife killed. He will be rid of the rabbis his wife and the jail sentence.
40. 24 Michael Finding happiness...
Ora ,   JERUSALEM   (06.30.11)
in a life without G-D ,is like looking for a turtle with a mustache.
41. I bet he is in love with BUBBA, his cellmate he can't marry.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (06.30.11)
42. The Rabbis should make her a ward of the court
Bruno   (06.30.11)
and then look after her interests - by declaring the marriage null and void
43. #4 made a mistake
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (06.30.11)
Although the Rabbinical court can put him away for up to ten years, he can get out in an instance if he agrees to divorce his suffering wife. The rabbis are not idiots, rather the man is. He has such hatred towards his wife that he would rather suffer for ten years or more than let her free to live a free life. It is a ruling that does to him as he is doing to her.
44. Still no "Get"
Ros ,   Tel Aviv   (06.30.11)
He should be declared mentally incapable of making any decisions and the Court should be able to award her a "get". Why should she be punished for the rest of her life!
45. GET=Get the hell out of my life....
Al   (06.30.11)
Best decision I ever made. "Free at last...Thank G-d I am free at last". Oh wait the was Martrin Luther King little speech .... Oh Well! To all my fellow Jew Canucks...Happy Canada Day
46. I keep telling my ex to remarry to find another shmendrik
Al   (06.30.11)
but noooooooooooo. She keeps calling and bugging me for AK 24/7. I always thought GET=Get the hell out of my life, but the ex doesnt get it. G-d bless her heart...
47. 16
Birdi ,   Israel 4 good & bad   (06.30.11)
Thanks but no thanks Michael, we dont want nor need back-stabbers like you. Either you love Israel for what she is or you dont. You dont, so kindly stay in California. Enough with your vile tongue.
48. American law: No automatic divorce after a year
Mea   (07.01.11)
Two posters have mentioned a supposed American law that a couple defaults into divorce if they are separated a year. No such law exists, and in America divorce can be every bit as awful. However, one important difference is that in America woman are not treated as second class citizens by the curt systems. This BS would never fly in the US, and no America woman would tolerate it.
49. This should be standard procedure...
Vlad   (06.30.11)
This should be done to anyone who refuses to give his wife a get. If it doesn't work, cancel child visits, put them in solitary, worsen their food, etc, until they give in. It's easier to hold out with a release date.
50. 46 Al, may be she thinks...
Ora ,   JERUSALEM   (06.30.11)
it is not so good without you.
51. He is punished for CHILDISH MAKE BELIEVE.
JMK ,   USA   (07.01.11)
The man is not doing anything to her. She is doing it to herself by subscribing to something akin to WITCHCRAFT. I honor the man for not enabling her PRIMITIVISM.
52. Justice?
Don ,   Forks, USA   (07.01.11)
How in the world is this remotely fair? The man doesn't give his wife a divorce but he gets 10 years harsh confinement? How long does the average person convicted of robbery serve in Israel? How long does somebody serve for assault? This is a travesty and no justice at all. He served his time. They could not break him so they force him back to prison maybe for life. By any standard this is cruel and unnecessary. Can Israel lock up anyone who disobeys religious law indefinitely? Why not execute him? That would be more humane.
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