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These are not our friends
Raphael Mimoun
Published: 28.07.11, 00:14
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31. nonsense
Rembrandt   (07.28.11)
I know some of these" right wing" leaders. They are truly believing in the clash of civilization and in the fact that Jews and Christians, that build the Western civilization for centuries should unite against the Islamist threat. Theay are not neo-nazis. They are in fact our best friends !
32. I like this article...
gabe ,   Guat   (07.28.11)
We should look for love and peace. Don't worry we will not have this problem in the future. We will all be citizens of the world. Suddenly we will realize that we cannot survive if we don't support each other. The minds to create will be on earth, the resources will be outer space. Let's focus on our own happiness rather than on the dishappiness of others....
33. Absolutely nothing wrong with Geert Wilders!
Tahl   (07.28.11)
And his Freedom Party. They are true friends and supporters of Israel, based on common ideologies and values. They are the only ones who side with Israel against the regular demonization it gets from the European Left. So they helped pass the ban on religious slaughtering. So what. It had nothing to do with antisemitism, but rather, an internal political consideration. And many Jews, myself included, also question the legitimacy of the kosher slaughtering - there is no scientific research about this issue, but it appears to cause the cow that much more suffering. Anyway, back to Wilders - it should be noted that his party does not have any Nazi connections, and no antisemitic history, like the far-rightist parties in France, Sweden or Austria. All Jews who criticize Wilders for being too extreme are genuine self-haters.
34. to #27 I don't think that hating right wingers
ghostq   (07.28.11)
will change reality, but I also think the toleranse award shouldn't be handed to you, oh and BTW speaking on Right wingers, Begin was the one to sign peace trety with Egypt, kinda funny isn't it. the first politician who leads the way for peace was right winger. oopsy
35. The author omits..
Beary White ,   Norway   (07.28.11)
So, which country is controlled by far rightist? The article cleverly omits the leftist politic in Europe hyping up the slogan multicultural as main object, not understanding that islam actually is what beeing imported, not multicultur. In Norway, the sami population stays at ca.30.000 as it has done for decades. Vietnamese ca 30.000, with five temples Hindu population abouth 8000 with two hindu temples. Islamic numbers in Norway are more than 240000 with 127 mosks. And, immigration started mostly for all groups in the 1970. This sends a clear message that the leftis politicians do not see. Why should the muslims integrate, they dont need to, the numbers is exploding. For 5-6 years the boy-name Muhammed is the most chosen in Oslo.. . .This callback is not based on rasisme, it is based on numbers..that the leftist do not want to see put together. The danger for christianity comes from islam. Christians are constantly under attack in islamic contries where jews already are deported or killed., and still the leftist are blind..
36. #29 not another ''Hitler was a leftist'' comment
Buzzy B ,   U.S.A   (07.28.11)
I blame people like Glenn Beck for spreading this retarded nonsense. Listen: the German National Socialist Party ( Nazi Party ) was hijacked by Adolf Hitler who murdered the socialist elements in it and thereafter adopted a far right racist nationalistic communist-hating path. His whole reason for being was to defeat communism, in particular the USSR which he invaded in 1941. I assume you are a Jew. How on earth can a Jew know so little about the German Nazi party? I am flabbergasted by such ignorance.
37. Who is far right?
Sassan ,   Orange County, CA   (07.28.11)
For example - I consider Geert Wilders a hero. We can't allow the actions of one maniac and madman to define the rest of us who are anti-Islamic. I am "born" a Muslim - I am Iranian - and understand the true horrors of Islam. Mr. Wilders is not a racist - he simply states people who immigrate should assimilate in societies and leave their primitive traditional/barbaric practices behind them if they want to live in the west. The actions of this one madman should not be equated to the rest who speak out against the horrors of Islam and multiculturalism.
38. Well said!!
Yossef   (07.28.11)
39. Neutrality is the best solution.
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (07.28.11)
40. I totally agree with the the artical
Michael ,   Israel   (07.28.11)
41. Indeed, thease are not our friends!!!
Dan ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.28.11)
42. Far Right United against European values (2)
Robert M Soran ,   EU + IL   (07.28.11)
The author concludes "For the sake of Israel’s moral status, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" must not be applied here. Arab and Muslim haters in Europe and in North America should not be welcomed as allies. Indeed, Israel’s allies must be ones whose values, beliefs and vision of the world are in line with our own. " This is the only weakness of the op-ed: The present Israeli government coalition and the ultra-religious, moderately orthodox and secular parties behind it have a vision of the world, values and beliefs that aren't much different from Breivik's ones. They certainly warmly welcome the EDL, Wilders, the Hungarian proto-fascists, UK's BNP and France's National Front under the Le Pen family. Netanyahu-Lieberman-Barak-​Yishai-Shalom's Israel has unfortunately become the "motek" (sweetheart) of the international far Right, the living example of how to opress Muslims and how to harass oponents. And the Stern gang with Menachem Begin and Itzhak Shamir their bombing heroes ...
43. These hate groups are using Israel!
Logic ,   Israel   (07.28.11)
One part of the reasoning behind the extremists' so-called "pro-Zionism" is to use us to sanitize their domestic image so they can seek political power.
44. these nazis are using israel i agree with 43!!!
Isacc ,   Israel   (07.28.11)
we must stop this!!!
45. Free Mason anarchist
Moshe ,   Netanya   (07.28.11)
He is not rightist. Right is -- Freedom and no one party rule, capitalism and lower taxis. Free press/ The does not like Islamists. The problem in Norway it has indoctrination camps, and we, at least most of us, thought the camps are, now, only in North Korea and Cuba. I wouldn't imagen such camps in England or Chehia, or France and Italy. Norway is on the level of North Korea (without atom bomb and a lot of oil).
46. From Denmark
JSB ,   Copenhagen   (07.28.11)
First off, I am from Denmark, and I am an agnostic. I do not care about your colour, your race, or your beliefs, as long as you don't harm other people. Most of you people posting here must be an embarrassment to whatever God you believe in. I feel sorry for any Israeli who have ever been killed or hurt by a palestinian bomb, and I also feel sorry for all the palestinians hurt or killed by Israeli bombings. That you people have no compassion for children being shot down and innocent people being blown up makes me ask myself"What kind of God do these people believe in?". I wish all the religious fanatics were put on an island so they could kill each other and let the rest of us enjoy this short time we have on this wonderful planet.
47. Leftist are FOOLS
GHook93 ,   Chicago   (07.28.11)
The hatred against Israel in Europe comes from two sources, the leftist and the Muslims. The more the Muslim population grows the more power they get. The more power they get the more Europe will turn against Israel. The Norway killer was insane, but his fear of what Islam is doing to Europe is NOT! The right is who will turn the tide of Islam taking over Europe. They might not love Jews, but they are better allies then the left. Not one rightist is proposing a flotilla. None bash Israel hypocritically like the left. They don't go to Gaza as propaganda tools. They don't call for boycotts of Israel. They don't define Islamofacist at every corner. And they aren't allowing Islamist to terrorism them! Leftist Jews get your head out of your arse!
48. @ #3
GHook93   (07.28.11)
That could well be the case they turn to expell the Jews. But that is why we have Israel. They will still have open trade with Israel. If the left and the Muslims completely take over Europe, you can expect, hostility and boycotts. If the right takes over and expells the Islamist. See improved trade relations!
49. @ 14 - Geert Wilder
GHook93 -Zionist Jew ,   Chicago   (07.28.11)
That is exactly what the writter is inferring. As a mental midget leftist, he is trying to infer the BRAVE and GREAT Wilder is not our friend! He sees what Islam is doing to Holland and he is against ISLAM. He is very pro-Israel and he is a GREAT man. One of the few great and courageous men left in Europe.
50. Astonishing! Mind-boggling article!
Thomas ,   USA   (07.28.11)
There are no days when the International Left is not attacking physically Israel like boycott-drive, flotilla aggression and then some. There are no days when there are no virulent, Cultural Marxism inspired Leftist smear is not conjured up in the Leftist EU press - exciting to hostile action. The International Left pour money, hate and propaganda to debase Israel and support Islamofascist Jihad... Only the Nationalist Europeans standing with Israel not the Cultural Marxists! And now this Soros-Jsreet inspired Leftist propaganda piece wants us to believe as Orwell wrote in "1984": "War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength" Sure Soros and Obamao and Hesbollah are our friends and Conservatives are our enemies: white is black and "Ignorance Is Strength"
51. They chased the Jews out of Europe
k ,   US   (07.28.11)
Now they have a use for them These Right Wingers, will NEVER be friends of the Jews This goes for Glenn Beck as well, never forget it was the right wing in the USA who fought hard to prevent Jews from immigrating to America, now the right wing has a use for Israel
52. Right Wing Extreme Scum
Ehai ,   London, England   (07.28.11)
Some, it is difficult to gauge how much, of the right-wing support Israel obtains around the world today is generated by a mentality that has been taught to recognize the establishment of the State of Israel as fulfillment of prophetic religious scripture. They see this historic fact as a prelude to the Second Coming of Jesus. I am an archaeologist, and I can tell you that their beliefs are utterly wrong. Archaeology has proved that the ancient Israelite theological basis for the so called salvation of Jesus for humankind has no basis in fact. Jews are the most cheated people throughout history and the theological aspects of it began with the writings of Israelites themselves. Ancients who fabricated historical justification for control of the throne of Judea. We don't want or need that kind of right-wing extremism as a global ally. We want peaceful relations with Muslim people and this is more important for Israel and the world than any of that ridiculous Christology which says the 'End of the World is coming. It is not coming. Jews don't believe in any such nonsense. We believe this is the beginning of the world and Judaism plays it part in making this world a fit place to live in. We don't want to dominate, we want to exist and co-exist. But not with the far-right racist anti muslim scum.
53. Moshe#45 you spout nonsense
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.28.11)
There is no such thing as "Mason anarchist". I state this without equivocation or mental reservation. Each and every single Mason takes as an oath support their government and attempt to subvert it. That is a fact that as a Past Master and 32nd Degree Mason I hereby state.
54. #52.Ehai: Are you a boycott supporter?
Thomas ,   USA   (07.28.11)
It's palpable that your sympathies lie with Islamist Jihad; did you take part in the anti-Israeli Leftist flotilla too? Most British Leftist Jews hate Israel like "SIR" G. Kaufman and his ilk. Was it a Muslim imam who told you that the Nationalist Europeans are all religious Christians? Enjoy the coming Sharia in Britain.
55. Norwegian Nutcase has no "friends" & #36, #29 is correct
Sue ,   Los Angeles   (07.28.11)
Breivik is one crazy Scandinavian who flipped out and killed some kids. Of course, leftists are jumping at the opportunity to make the mentally unbalanced Breivik the new face of the right while conveniently omitting mention of sane leftists who committed atrocities. And Buzzy B #36, the National Socialists (Nazis) were leftists. Read Jonah Goldberg's best-selling book "Liberal Fascism" and open your mind to this truth. Can you not see the rise in fascism in the US since the election of the most radical leftist president in our history? Just look at my state, California, where the liberal fascists are taking away our freedoms - from banning circumcision, light bulbs, shopping bags and Happy Meal toys to the brainwashing of our schoolchildren with their ideology. Also, every time we Jews have a rally to support Israel, the Muslims and their communist allies (ANSWER) show up together to scream their hatred at us. It is the Left that is mainly responsible for anti-Semitism in the US and in Europe.
56. What ?
Jan Hansen ,   Taastrup, Denmark   (07.28.11)
There lives around 750 milllion people in Europe, and a single extremists decides what Europe stands for ? I live in Denmark and have both muslims and jews as neighbors. 4 days ago we sat a jew, a muslim and me as a "Danish Christiian" (Which im not, i do not belive in any god which also have been a good ground for discussions) and discussed the terrorists attack on children in Norway. We all agreed that in a few days contries like Israel, Libya and Syria would use what happened in Norway as a "proof" of European behavior. 1 man out of 750 mill people would decide what people around the world would think of Europe ? Does that say something about you discussing the "evil" Europe here ? We in Denmark had the drawings which made us unpopular in the entire muslim world, one mans work decided that i could stand on a beach in Gambia and defend the freedom of speech and what it included for an imam in Gambia, one mans work ? Extremism isnt new, go thru history and you find many individuals whos actions have started wars and riots. But to use one mans actions to define right/left'ism tells more about you as individuals and gives the terrorists fuel for more actions. If one man can define political borders the world is open for all the people who have extreme beleifs.
57. Yes they are...
Kfir   (07.28.11)
Like it or not, right wing parties are currently in Western Europe Jew's best friend. One should be a desillusional leftist or have the mind a century backwards not to understand that we are on the same boat, figthing the same ennemy
58. That does seem to be the ultimate bottom line, #57
Cameron ,   USA   (07.29.11)
Hold your nose, and form your alliances because your mutual enemy yearns to make an end of you both.
59. "Beggars can't be choosers"
Vlad   (07.29.11)
That's the saying Israel must live by in the world of politics. As long as they show no disdain for their own Jewish communities and support Israel, they are our friends. Things can change in the future, but for now, work side by side with them. You think the USA loved to be an ally of the Soviet Union during WWII? No, but it stood against the greater evil. As the saying goes, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
60. who stands with Israel..
Al cook ,   summerville sc   (07.29.11)
The Left is anchored by NO G-d agenda.. Any Nation that would actually believe in a True G-d agenda is someone who has to be retrained or restrained. Israel, even when her citizens are viewed as not "Walking with" G-d, are simply too chosen, too able to possibly embrace and desert the liberal positioning, too subject to too many voices that say G-d IS, and there IS NO Other.. The Left then, will not have the patience to wait till their voice overrides all other voices, but will privately behind the scenes play a topical game to those who have unsanctified mercies toward who man really is and what man is really capable of, while secretly plotting for full overthrow.. Their is only ONE True G-d, and Israel is His First Love. Everyone wanting to be right about this being wrong is your enemy, Israel. Play everyone for any advantage that prolongs the inevitable, but never think the ultimate showdown isn't going to come because your enemy might change his stripes. Even when some of the mass do change, there is a power behind the mass that drives them, who has never changed and never will because he cannot. Whomever he owns, he uses and he has one goal. No Israel, no judgment, no verdict. But The Court will sit in session. Israel, trust anyone who trusts in Adonai, but trust in Adonai More, because Ultimately Israel, this thing comes down to Adonai and Israel against all comers which will encompass the earth..You have not been, are not now, will not be big enough, strong enough, mighty enough for that day, but Adonai IS..
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