No Muslim ‘radicals’
Dan Calic
Published: 03.08.11, 00:39
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1. All Muslims are the same
berlonski ,   berlin   (08.03.11)
Whether they live in Malaysia or London. Whether they are a girl in a poor family in Saudi Arabia or an artist in Paris. Whether they are Sunni Arab or Shiit Persian or Kurdish. Whether they are a suicide bomber in Pakistan or a doctor in Haifa. It is all the same. Muslim is Muslim is Muslim is evil. Happy are those who have a one-dimensional view like that. It avoids a lot of thinking.
2. Which Sabbath did the Jews break?
Yaniv ,   Israel   (08.03.11)
The Jewish or the Muslim, as they occur on different days?
3. The Quran is full of black magic, such as Allah turning Jews
Yaniv ,   Israel   (08.03.11)
into apes for breaking the Sabbath.
4. So, the Islamaphobes have to be correct
Jon ,   Baltimore US   (08.03.11)
5. Sadly, No One Likes The Truth: esp when it's UGLY
EZAL ,   USA   (08.03.11)
Actually, having studied eastern Religion for over 3 decades with a very thorough and intimate knowledge of the 5 major religions, I would have to point out something my fellow Dr did not: MANY "secular" (so called moderate) Muslims wound up coming back to their roots to carry out suicide missions and murders. The Muslims LOOK for such individuals and encourage them to "redeem" themselves (their souls) by becoming martyrs. The entire world must understand one thing: Islam is NOT compatible withy ANY OTHER LIFE PHILOSOPHY and can NEVER integrate into another culture or society in any way, shape or form. It is committed to cultural genocide and extermination: indeed that is their MISSION. This fact will leave the world with our most horrendous conflict In the future, especially in Europe. Multiculturalism, as beautiful as the concept might seem, is a cruel and extremely dangerous proposition that will ultimately lead to a worst case scenario. This is unavoidable since Islam will NEVER integrate. Also, to change the subject for a second: multiculturalism itself is cultural genocide albeit passively. We humans need to accept the fact that it is okay for a non-invasive (unlike Islam) culture should be allowed, without judgment, to build walls around itself for cultural integrity even within nations that are totally democratic. IT IS NOT A THREAT NOT TO BE FULLY ACCEPTED INTO THE CULTURE OF ANOTHER! We should be PRESERVING each others cultures in democracies by adopting all cultural holidays as national holidays, even if only a few thousand practice it. In the US, we have "China Town, Korea Town, Little Siagon, Little Itally, Little Armenia and enclaves of Russians, Germans, Amish, Menonites, Hutterites, Ashkenazic Jews, Sephardic Jews, Irish areas, Persians, etc, etc: and not ONE is a threat in any way! In fact, we put of official state signs declaring areas by the names above to encourage cultural integrity. But with Islam, it is IMPOSSIBLE, foolish, cruel and is setting us up for major conflicts, riots, murder and death. This cannot be avoided unless Islam is accepted within the original geographical spaces it expanded through or officially recognizes Islam as their culture. In other words: Islam must not be allowed to expand any further than it has, period. And all nations within which they Are a minority should be encouraged to leave now, for everyones safety, even the Muslims. Mark my words: Deerborn Michigan will witness a horrendous civil strife never seen on American soil within the next 10 years or less. And Islam will wind up being discouraged throughout the US, if not made illegal. NO, this is nothing like what Europe did to the Jews: this is the position Islam is FORCING us into due to it's very nature. But unfortunately, nothing will be done to address these issues in the west until a civil war breaks out and far too many people perish. It's just not possible to avoid.
6. The truth is much simpler!
Thomas ,   USA   (08.03.11)
What you say is common knowledge by astute, discerning people. As for the Leftists, they are allied with radical Islam against Israel - and in a wider sense - against the Judeo-Christian civilization - so they are unimpressionable by facts or reason.
7. no muslem radicals
ghazi essawi ,   gainesville, va.usa   (08.03.11)
You claim that moslems pray to Allah while christians and jews pray to God. The word Allah in Arabic means God.
8. Islam and other religions
Joshua ,   USA   (08.03.11)
Religion=Delusion. Had people judged their religions objectively, that form of social cancer would have disappeared long ago.
9. Glad to see...
Gabriel ,   Tel Aviv   (08.03.11)
Ynet has just stopped pretending its not racist and has just come out with it. Imagine the outrage of a similar article about Jews using random quotes from the Torah to show how evil Jews are. This is just revolting and I am sure it will be very popular with the many racists who love to post here.
10. Wafa Sultan excommunicated by her own family
observer ,   Egypt   (08.03.11)
11. then how do you explain that Wahabis are moderates
observer ,   Egypt   (08.03.11)
secular muslim must have been a much milder form.
12. Islam
norbus ,   jerusalemj   (08.03.11)
A constructive article from ynet for a change. Koran, like other recorded religions , was collected , redacted, grown, edited & interpreted over centuries before it was finalised Islamic Collegiate opinions and practice vary over the years. Last 250years, a shift to harder interpretation took place eminating from Saudi and wahabism with variants grew apace Exposing the factual doctrines within Islam and interpretations thereof openly and honestly can only help those who are illiterate and blind followers form their own opinion in light of the humanity they live with. That can only bring good.
13. Hopefully Misguided
D   (08.03.11)
I hope the author is simply misguided. Else there is a big issue. It is true that according to "radical" Muslims, there is no radical Islam, just one faith and everyone who disagrees with them is an infidel. But that is a definition of Islam according to radicals, who could be better called fundamentalists. This is in fact an aspect of all fundamentalist movements, Christian or Jewish, who consider their definition of faith to be the only true one. But historically speaking, that is inaccurate because the fundamentalist movements are in fact relatively modern and have added onto past concepts some of their own (including the fact that their view is the only correct one). If you look at what the Quaran says by itself, it is in essence a summary of the Torah, with some differences here and there, but with the same final message: be a good person (not as simple of course, I do not pretend to understand the Torah perfectly well, but I am really paraphrasing Rabbi Akiva here). Furthermore, Muslims do believe that Allah is the God of the Torah. It is most accurately thought of as merely a translation of the Hebrew word (it even sounds a bit similar, so probably originated from that). Recall also that God's name is not usually used; according to Islam there are in fact many names of God, none of which is Allah. Now whether the Jews should view the God of Islam as the same God as theirs is up to the Jews, and we don't have to agree on this. But just because according to Islam God punished the Jews doesn't mean that that's a different God. In fact, that is what mainly happens in the Torah: God punishes Jews. Now I am a Jew, and in fact the cause of my distress with this article is in fact precisely the fact that I am a Jew. This kind of stuff was what people would write about Judaism in Germany in 1930's, as well as all over the world at different times, even today. This is really quite atrocious. I am not a leftist, by the way, before anyone accuses me of that. We still must have a certain respect for other faiths, otherwise we do not deserve any respect ourselves. There is radical Islam, and it is a problem to all of us. But Muslims are people too, even if many of them are fed lies about Israel. That just makes them ignorant. This article is also quite ignorant, so it is proof enough that Jews and Israelis can be just as ignorant.
14. Now this is something I knew about
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (08.03.11)
Yes somebody that is a Muslim has spoken the truth. The most moderate Arab is far more radical than the most extreme Jew.
15. And Judaism is somehow different?
Canadian Dude ,   Canada   (08.03.11)
Doesn't the Torah say "Thou shalt have no other gods before me", and that those who beg to differ are enemies of the Jews who must be smitten, etc. etc.? Are rioting, trash-burning, stone-throwing Haredim merely following the rules of scripture? If you want to insist that Islam be taken literally word for word, why not do the same with Judaism? In a fair comparison, it's blatantly clear that the literal meaning in both religions is as barbaric and out of touch with reality as the people who lived in the times when these religions were respectively invented. It would be amusing to watch the world's religions fighting, bickering and murdering to decide which faith is the least stupid of the bunch, except it causes too much suffering for those on the sidelines who don't want to get involved.
16. To the very heart of the matter!
Cameron ,   USA   (08.03.11)
17. who writes this pathetic, ignorant garbage??
PZ ,   New York   (08.03.11)
Maybe try opening a book or two, you ridiculous populist clown. You understand nothing about Islam (or Judaism for that matter).
18. I agree 100% with this article and with
Israeli 2   (08.03.11)
Dr. Sultan!
19. Like saying settlers are the only ones who adhere to Torah
Dovid ,   Los Angeles   (08.03.11)
i.e. completely false.
20. some Koran quotes:
mary of Bethany ,   singapore   (08.03.11)
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. Surat At-Tawbah 9:5(2 Sura 9:5) "....Kill those who join other gods with Allah wherever you find them; besiege them, seize them, lay in wait for them with every kind of ambush...."(Sura 9:5). "When you encounter the unbelievers, strike off their heads, until ye have made a great slaughter among them...."(Sura 47:4). "....Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in Allah, or in the Last Day, and who forbid not what Allah and His Apostle have forbidden....until they pay tribute..." (Sura 9:29). "Say to the infidels: If they desist, what is now past shall be forgiven them; but if they return, they have already before them the doom of the ancients! Fight then against them till strife be at an end, and the religion be all of it Allah's." (Sura 8:39). "Proclaim a grievious penalty to those who reject faith." (Sura 9:3). In the true muslim's eyes, it's only death for us "infidels" as Chrsitians and Jews, or even Atheist and Free-thinkers. so, wake up and don't fool ourselves.
21. I dind contradiction, according to the ape theory
ghostq   (08.03.11)
Darwin and his followers should watch out, after all Muslim r hinting there is connection between the two, also contradiction, when they pray they claimed god is mercyfull, but according to the ape theory god is a punisher with furry, some how it sound like total opposite, in fact the sin of the Israelites they took from chritianity not at best, in nowhere was proven that jews killed any prophet, Jesus aka Yeshuah was jewish himself and was murdered by Romans not Jews, that claim proven when this was written Europe was in ME under Roman Catholic church, cause the Bizantic church never claimed this.
22. The muslums want you to believe that a man who raped a nine
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.03.11)
year old girl as his "sixth wife" was called upon by G-d to start a new religion as Judaism was so corrupt. Well, ah no, it is quite impossible to believe that.
23. Erdogan also said, "There is no moderate Islam. Only Islam."
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (08.03.11)
On this point, Sultan and Erdogan are in agreement. "There is only Islam." I'm reminded of an interview with a leading Islamic "scholar" of Al Azhar. When asked if it wasn't time for an Islam that abolished slavery and polygamy, that granted equal rights for women and abandoned the struggle against non-Muslims, he reacted in shock. "But that wouldn't be Islam!"
24. "One and Only Way" thinking
Ben ,   USA   (08.03.11)
Christianity took about 1500 years until it started flowering into a multitude of different forms (sects) that were eventually at least reluctantly tolerated by the other sects (not counting the Roman Catholic / Eastern Orthodox division at around 1000 CE). Rabbinical Judaism took about 1700 years (70 CE to 1800 CE) before it similarly started flowering into different sects that were to some level tolerated by the other sects (Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, etc). Using this math, perhaps in the next two centuries Islam will begin flowering into different forms that are at least mutually reluctantly tolerated? There is more than "One and Only Way" to worship God.
25. By this logic...
Tel Avivoid ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (08.03.11)
There are no "moderate" Jews. If you ask anyone in Mea Sherim, they will tell there is only "Torah," and those that do not follow it as they do are simply wrong. They do not accept any god but HaShem, and have as awful things to say about "unbelievers" as the quotes provided. The fact that other disagree would appear to be insubstantial. Just like the author of this piece appears to discount all moderate voices within Islam because the conservatives say they don't count.
26. Dr. WafaSultan is right. Usefull article
Rehavam ,   Israel   (08.03.11)
27. Only the deaf/dumb/blind &Lunatic left called them moderate
tom ,   tel aviv   (08.03.11)
28. This is the work of an amateur...
LebanonPride ,   Canada   (08.03.11)
Who takes an athiests view of Islam more worthy than a Muslim? This is like asking a penguin how it feels to fly like a bird. Surely you can do better.
29. Dr. Wafa Sultan speaks well
Larry ,   Los Angeles   (08.03.11)
There is no moderation in Islam, moderate looking leaders are only there for the opportunity.But Islam is a killer religion especially if you are a Jew in Israel and it does not matter if you are a soldier, a mother or an infant.
30. Must we move to Mars and leave the earth to the savages
Rubio   (08.03.11)
What this whole brouhaha regarding islam simply means, is that civiliztion is being hijacked by islam, due to the utter disregard of this mortal danger by the so-called intelligentsia academicians, politicians and this new breed; the irrelevant new generation being taught by islam's 5th column ---- the teachers in our colleges and universities, subsidised by oil money -- the arab in our midst. Where do you think the Bushe's wealth is coming from if not Saudi Arabia, or the millions / billions lavished to the UN by a monster, a murderer, a thug named Gaddafi, revered as a saint in their milieu. Dr. Wafa Sultan knows her subject very well, She was one of THEM; but her heart, her mind, common sens, practical experience made her the champion of civilization. With this background, she is appealing, she is begging normal people (islam is not normal) to listen, and see the devil for what he is; the humanity (his) at his worst; the return of the cave man with the crescent as an emblem
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