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Jerusalem scholars trace Bible's evolution
Associated Press
Published: 17.08.11, 15:43
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1. Bible research
Yoel ,   ossining,ny   (08.17.11)
I think the article is very interesting and exciting; however, I wish the author would be more conscious of his language. He uses Christian verbiage to to identify Jewish documents; for example: the Old Testament, also known as the bible. Accoding to Christian belief, the Old Testament is superceded by the New Testament. Why not come out and say the "Torah." Also the use of AD (in the year of our lord) I find objectional in a Jewish publication. I have seen AD used in YNET articles before. Why not use BCE and CE?
2. MR AUTHOR YOU SAID
....DACON9   (08.17.11)
''Bible Project scholars have spent years combing through manuscripts such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, Greek translations on papyrus from Egypt, a printed Bible from 1525 Venice, parchment books in handwritten Hebrew, the Samaritan Torah, and scrolls in Aramaic and Latin. The last member of the original team died last year at age 90'' ''A believing Jew claims that the source of the Bible is prophecy," said the project's bearded academic secretary, Rafael Zer. "But as soon as the words are given to human beings - with God's agreement, and at his initiative – the holiness of the biblical text remains, even if mistakes are made when the text is passed on." MR AUTHOR, A BELIEVING JEW WOULD IMMEDIATLY DISMISS ALL OF ABOVE REFERENCES. NOT EVEN THE HERETIC PAUL/SAUL/SHAUL TRANSLATED FROM HEBREW BUT FROM GREEK. so that puts HIS WRITINGS IN THE SAME CATAGORY AS SPIDERMAN. and furthermore Mr Author A BEARD DOES NOT MAKE A JEW
3. #1, because this is an AP article
Mike ,   TA   (08.17.11)
4. 53 years? What a waste!
Israeli 2   (08.17.11)
Especially when you base conclusions on faltering theories.
5. #1 Common Usage
Someone ,   Somewhere   (08.17.11)
While you are technically correct on all counts, common usage supersedes scholastic specificity. Old Testament is the most common way of referring to the Hebrew scriptures in English. Saying "Torah" would not only be less common, but wrong. The project is out to translate the entire Tanakh, not just the five books of Moses. Likewise, AD is far more common than CE. A surprising number of people either have not heard of CE/BCE, or are actively offended by it. If you object to these things in a Jewish publication, shouldn't you be pushing them to use the Jewish year instead of CE anyway?
6. Agree with Yoel #1
Yossef   (08.17.11)
Old testament means we are dead. Are we?
7.  The same as for medical expertise ...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (08.17.11)
i would solely rely on a genuine physician, for Tora expertise,i only rely on a real Rabbi.
8. #1: It's Tanakh, not Torah
Igor   (08.17.11)
Torah is only the beginning of the "Hebrew Bible" and, as I understand the article, the whole Tanakh is being revised.
9. iteresting but
NOOR ,   Jerusalem   (08.17.11)
why not to compair with what i t is predented in quran not as a belief but as sience and researcgh
10. And man created G-D in his own image...
Ex-Orthodox Jew   (08.18.11)
...and the scribes wrote everything down. With apparent results.
11. Which three have been published?
R ,   Israel   (08.18.11)
The article says that only three books have been published so far - does anyone know which three? And how to buy a copy?
12. the spreading of the word
cristian ,   buenos aires arg   (08.18.11)
it all began in the land of yisrael ,zion the centre of the world,then the word was preaching to europe,asia and africa to finish in america,throught the way went together good and evil,and both of them mixture in the way, nowdays in the end of times is time to return to its roots yisrael and zion where the servant teachings about serve each other get back to the source and the name rest and lay in zion forever and ever,amen
13. Yada, yada, yada research.
Michael ,   California, USA   (08.18.11)
A scholarly research to find out which hokus pokus is more relevant and historically correct. It's like studying Jerry Seinfeld's skits. What a waste of time and money. The Bible/Tanah/Tora/ is the same as "1001 Nights" with the difference that the latter is more interesting for children to read. Let's derive the correct conclusion and stop teaching the Tanah in Israeli schools. it is a complete waste of children time, the teaching of marginally relevant garbage.
14. sad waste of 53 years
yoni ,   tel aviv   (08.18.11)
what a sad waste of human resources. comparing christian and samaritan scripts adding words to our holy torah. your time would be better spent learning the reasons and context of the holy torah. The rabbis for example did not allow themselves to quote verses of the Torah verbatim and therefore always altered the text a bit and included explanations of the verses in their quoting so that it qualifies as oral torah and can be said over verbatim. Samaritan and Christian text were also altered. the prophets writings were never set in stone and we even lost some. The five books of Moses will never be altered added to or subtracted from. stop wasting your time trying to prove a misguided point
15. Please stay in California
FromIsrael   (08.18.11)
To 13 - your opinion as to about what to teach children in Israel is absolutely irrelevant as long as you express it from California. We see what people , with opinions like yours, did and still are doing to once prosperous state. Please - do not come back.
16. AD
Nirmal ,   Trivandrum, india   (08.19.11)
Why bother brother... Jesus was jewish himself. No one is taking away your legacy...
17. #4 A Waste? Not Quite
Dan ,   Florida   (10.05.11)
As the Japanese used to say "Searching your whole life for a perfect Cherry Blossom would not be a wasted life". This is infinitely more important.
18. Reply to numbers 1 and 2
Joseph ,   London UK   (07.25.12)
There is a difference between the Torah and the Prophets and Writings. When the latter books were canonised the scholars of that era edited the Neveim and Kesuvim. That is why you can't date the books by their language. There is nothing heretical about this.
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