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Israel insists it won't apologize to Turkey
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 02.09.11, 17:00
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31. Turkey making fools of themselves for the world to see
john   (09.02.11)
The sooner the better for Turkey finely realise they are no longer an empire where they can provoke,blackmail,and threaten nations such as Israel with PLANS A, B & Z
32. israel will not appolgize
thamir ,   Texas,usa   (09.02.11)
What is Turkey for ISRAEL to appolgize from?By the way ISRAEL has not appoligzed to the CREATOR of heaven and earth!
33. #4;ben, TRUTHFUL WITH YOURSELF
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.02.11)
Oh yes, the old "Israel did not release all the video defense". This for the simpletons, and Israel haters. Let's face it, if any country had the exact same evidence against the IDF, there would be no question as to Israel's guilt in those people's mind or your mind. But it's Israel, so no amount of evidence, no matter how overwhelming, will ever be enough. I was just watching the news this morning, and they played the video's, the terrorists can be seen...as they zoomed in for a full screen close up...the guys are literally beating a guy on the ground. Holding a long steel rod about the size of a baseball bat...maybe slightly longer...the terrorist grabs it with both hands and reaching back over his head begins to brutally, unmercifully beat the helpless guy on the ground in front of him (in fact two of about five people were beating this one IDF soldier). So tell me, what more do you need to see, and be truthful with yourself. If this was the IDF doing the beating, would you really be asking for more video? To prove the IDF was really innocent? I think not!
34. #11;ben, PLEASE, SAVE IT
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.02.11)
Nice try ben, but a lot of countries...not just Israel...have taken a pass on pressing that issue with Turkey. I believe the USA is one of the nations as well. Google it, how many countries have passed on forcing Turkey on the Armenian issue? You think it's only Israel? Don't make me laugh. But it does speak volumes about you, doesn't it? Since you omit that fact, that Israel was far from alone on that. So stop the weak attempts as trying to demonize Israel. Next you'll be talking about AIPAC and USA aid to Israel. Save it!! Tell us, what country has a perfect record on all moral issues of the world?
35. If Turkey was a real friend it wouldn't let Flotila happen..
ASHER ,   NY,USA   (09.02.11)
I believe Erdogan and his team are getting paid heavily by Iran and they really do not care what happens to Turkey or it's economy or anything else, exactly the way leaders of Iran think and act toward Iran... Now Erdogan is making a fuss of a abvious crime they had in mind to do because he wants to take the attention far from Syria and do Iran a big favour and he is getting paid a heavy amount of bribe from Iran. Hamas is the very first enemy of Israel and proxy of Iran that has congratulated Turkey for this big favour. People of Turkey should wake up and do not let Erdogan do to their country what Islamic Republic did to Iran......I hope it isn't too late for that... Any how Israel can continue fine without Turkey, the question is where Turkey is going to without Israel????
36. THE ATTITUDE OF ISRAEL
M A SHERVANI ,   DELHI. INDIA   (09.02.11)
TURKEY SAVED JEWS SEVERAL TIMES. TODAY THEY ARE IN ISRAEL ONLY BECAUSE OF TURKEY . NOW WORLD MUST SEE WHATS JEWS ARE DOING .
37. Apology for what?
Caïro ,   Miami   (09.02.11)
So apology like Socrates you can ask for what? To send soldiers Palmer &co. said is O.K. For the things didn't went into elegant manner? Everybody knows that in confrontation things happen fast and furious. If the Marmara ship guys decide to act violent then good look! They established the rule in that moment.
38. turks lie
(09.02.11)
The un does an un biased report and finds terroists plots on the flotila aginst israel. And them hamas, a terrorist organization supports turkey. You've got to be a fucking moron to belive that the turks are innocent
39. Turkeys friend
Beary White ,   Norway   (09.02.11)
Now, when Iran is the best friend of Erdogan, there is no need to say bad things abouth him, He fits perfectly in the same tree as Amahdinejad. :-)
40. World view
Terry ,   Canada   (09.02.11)
Fortunately there are very few states that reject the views of the international community. When a nation sees itself as the victim in every given situation, it rejects even the most solid evidence and logic when it is in fact the aggressor. While it does serve to accomplish short term goals, in time it results in backlash and rejection. When one always insists they are right, they soon lose respect and friends. Nobody likes people who think they are always right. Pick your battles, I say. Sometimes even if you think you are right, it is better to say sorry.
41. Standing up to Obama
Terry ,   Canada   (09.02.11)
Bite the hand that feeds... how long will the master want to keep a dog that bites? USA provides Israel over $13,000 USD per resident annually (US State Department, 1997) in foreign aid consisting of direct financial aid, loans, grants and loan guarantees. I'd have to say that USA is clearly standing up for Israel.
42. big mouth Sarah
Abraham ,   Istanbul   (09.02.11)
Sarah, you are the one who's pathetic. I've been reading your filthy comments for awhile now and couldn't resist anymore. Turkey's economy is superior to that of Israel and there is no way for Turkey to get kicked out of NATO. Stop the disinformation. The Turkish "dinosaur" had opened the gates to your sneaky ancestors from spain to poland and germany and you will learn to respect. And by the way, Turkey's quality and friendship is well known especially within NATO and N.America, unlike Israeli leaches who take American tax dollar every year . Get a life before talking about Turkey. Wonder if you could behave like this if Turkish special forces knocked on your door...
43. turkey didbn't apologize yet for killing 2 million armenians
just saying   (09.02.11)
44. Israel insists it won't apologize to Turkey
Harry Light ,   Frankfurt, Germany   (09.02.11)
Sarah B , U.S.A. / Israel spoken like a true American. We don´t need them, no benefit to Israel. A short time ago every one was saying Israel does not need the USA and Israel will kick the American rear end. Isn´t time to wake up and start talking like people who live in one world. Israel needs every friend it can get and same applies to the USA.. This kind of talk is not in the interest of Israel.
45. Spoiled turkish children
Joss ,   Ashkelon   (09.02.11)
turkish behave like a spoiled children, the we always said yes and gets his first no in his face.
46. Bibi is our Turkey
Verity Adevar ,   Israel   (09.02.11)
Turkey and Netanyahu, our most coward PM in modern Israel history has failed again, to the disadvantage of the state of Israel and its citizens: He had no cojones left by the mohel or by his wife who seems to have them (...) to properly act (after asking the UN committee to repeatedly postpone the release its report and recommendations on the Mavi Marmara blunder) in regard to Turkey. Now Turkey is taking pragmatic steps and Israel faces increased isolation. Netanyahu is a worse punishment for us by G0d than the destruction of the second temple. Hurban Netanyahu ...
47. @ 22
Abraham ,   Istanbul / Chicago   (09.02.11)
I think you skipped in between pal, how convenient eh? And israel has never been an ancient kingdom, that's an old testament story, a fiction, israel is nothing but a sewage and for you to stick in to your old mantra is yet another display of lies. The Republic of Turkey is by far advanced than the current "modern jewish state of paranoia" *sigh*, in terms of quality of life, freedoms and economy,.
48. To 28 A lesson from business you can always be replaced
NewMan   (09.02.11)
"Turkey is located in a very important geostrategic area. The ABM radar in Turkey planned by US is a cornerstone to monitor russian military installations and provide missile defence." So is Georgia, Poland, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, (Northern) Iraq, and many others. Russia is not a small country.... It's a bit of 'coincidence' that the same day Turkey sets its Neo-Ottomanism foreign policy into over drive it accepts this missile shield placement after holding out... The context here is very obvious. "Turkey has a big military and is a stabilizing factor in the region. Too important for NATO, US and the EU." Indeed it is true that Turkey has a large military of ~1 million men. On the other hand they haven't been in a major military operation since it's invasion of Cyprus. And considering that Erdogan has recently decapitated the military by forcing out most of the top officers, you now have a lot of unproven officers at the top now. And Turkey is not stabilizing, just because it hasn't been shown on the top of the news doesn't mean, it's been unnoticed the havoc and chaos Turkey has been strewing in the Kurdish areas of Iraq. The only country important for NATO is the US. The US has always given the majority of troops. they have been in the front lines, and they have been the ones taking the casaulties. Turkey while a large member has been disproportionately under manning NATO missions, Afghanistan is an excellent example where they literally have only 1,800 troops (basically all in non-combat roles)! Germany with a roughly equal population has around 4,800 and the UK with a smaller population has 10,000 troops... (both with many in combat roles) If this what Turkey gives to NATO, then it really is a joke relative to its size. And if this is so essential to the EU, why has it been blocked from entering instead of being streamlined in? "Israel did a very big mistake to piss of the latest ally in the region. " You mean the same one who spit in our face at Davos, insulting the president in a childish manner because Israel went into Gaza to stop rocket fire against our civilian population? "The US will never let Turkey kicked out of NATO never. In fact the west fears that Turkey will leave the NATO." Really who said this? With such poor contributions, the current American economy, and the fact that most NATO members aren't spending even the minimal amount and just expecting the US to do everything, why should the US even continue this charade? NATO is basically the US military with some other flags thrown in for some color.... "You know that Turkey could form and lead a major economic and military block with the turk states Turkemenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan and Azebajan...? " You're kidding right? The first three mentioned are basically more connected to Russia and Russian culture than Turkish culture. This would also lead to Russia getting involved because these are all CIS states, which would lead to a diplomatic confrontation between Turkey and Russia. Only Azerbajan is following around Turkey, and they have there own problems with Armenia... So Turkey isn't in the best position as well. It's former best friend Syria is laughing at it, Iran is trying to find ways to circumvent Turkish control, and they've now just lost any Israeli cooperation. It seems the Erdogan views himself at the Emperor with no Empire to boss around...
49. To: No. 11
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.02.11)
The Jews know more about genocide than any other people on the planet. We have never refused to address any issues involving the Armenian genocide; do you think we are so ignorant that we do not know it paved the way for the massacre of one-third of the Jews in the world? Muzzlewatch? Muzzlewatch? Is that the best you can do? Sad ....
50. @ 35 Asher
Abraham ,   Istanbul / Chicago   (09.02.11)
Turkey does not need Israel one bit, never has and never will. idf great commandos /not/ took a good beating from the regular crowd on the boat, wonder what would they do when they face the Turkish Navy and Armed Forces for real ? Israel and anyone who supports the terrorist state of israel needs serious mental treatment. Don't mix up Erdogan, Iran and so on, at the en dof the day, yo uare land grabbers and commit crimes against humanity since 1948 and it has to come to an end and you will be brought to justice, recognize free state of palestine. Perhaps you like to move your precious state of israel to outer Bronx subs and projects, that'd do it,
51. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.02.11)
News flash: Israel is a nuclear power. Turkey is not. And Turkey cannot count on the support of NATO because, frankly, NATO is spread a little thin these days; NATO is about to expel Turkey and -- neither NATO or Turkey are a match for Israel. Israel can vaporize Turkey in a heartbeat. Second news flash: Six million Jews died in the Second World War. Turkey was allied with Germany. Guess the doors weren't opened widely enough. Third news flash: You're not all that savvy.
52. To: No. 17
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.02.11)
Hey, whack job, the "civilians" on board the MAVI MARMARA were IHH terrorists. What sort of "rights" do you think terrorists (should) have? Torture videos? How would you describe the slaughter of the five members of the Fogel family by your precious ersatz "Palestinians?" They all had their throats slit -- while they slept. Including three children; one of them, a four month old baby girl. Explain why you are not speaking out about that, if you would. Inquiring minds want to know. By the way .... I'll try and break this to you gently .... there is no "Palestine." There never will be a "Palestine." Unless, of course, Israel takes back Jordan, Gaza, most of Syria and Lebanon, and kicks your sorry Moslem asses out of Medinat Israel. Don't tempt us. We can do it .... it won't take long. Send your squatter asses packing.
53. To: Chris at No. 21
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.02.11)
We've solidly kicked Arab and Moslem ass for sixty-three years. The Turks are just lucky we didn't send a missile amidships. I sort of wish we had.
54. To: Mark at No. 34
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.02.11)
What country has a perfect record on all moral issues of the world? Israel. Check it out.
55. WON'T APOLOGIZE!
les ,   canada   (09.02.11)
mr prime minister. please, take this ridiculous subject off the agenda. there is only one party need to apologize, and that's not israel. just wait till nato realize what a trojan horse they allowed inside the eu, and then it will hit the fan.....
56. Temper Your Emotions
SheepnotGoat ,   California   (09.02.11)
Reading through these "talkbacks" makes me wonder if you all know what your emotion is leading you into... ...smack-dab into Ezekiel 38. Ezekiel 14:6 "“Therefore say to the people of Israel, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices!"
57. OK, soldiers used excessive force when attacked. My apology.
Michael ,   California, USA   (09.02.11)
58. Abraham 42
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (09.02.11)
Somehow I don't think that Turkish special forces would even make it to Sarah's door. If they did we would have to listen to Turkey whine and complain demanding an apology for what she would do to them. Then we would be hearing about plan C from you guys.
59. To # 33 # 34 and Sara looks like we
ben   (09.02.11)
Struck a nerve and recieved the Obligatory response from our graduates of hope Kindegarten. Sarah the Article among many was " Israel Turkey and the politics of genocie. if you took the time to read it it documents how Israel's powerful lobbies work day and night to deny the Armenian genocide on behalf of Turkey. Mostly in the USA congress. the President of Israel Perez actually appologized to Turkey and reitorated Israel,s position. that they do not consider what happened to the Armenians as genocide. Please look up the Foxman matter [ADL] when he was forced to ackowldge the Armenian genocide when Cape Cod and other cities pulled out of his no place for hate program. as for the article on muzzlewatch that was the so called icing on the cake but hey what do you expect from a graduate of Hope kindergaten. as for 33 and 34. this was an internationl event theie was film its 2011 we know what goes on in Syria Iran. to not realize there were hundreds of cell phone footage is LUDICROUS. Israel confiscated everything in that ship including Passports[ And we know what they do with passports] How convinent Israel the biggest PR machine in the universe controls the entire evidence locker. why won't they realese it. I guess we'll never know if Israel soldiers shot passangers from the helicopters before they boarded the ship causing the passengers to panic and grab whatever they could find to defend themselves as wittnesses said. or that the activist were executed when they were bound. I guess we'll never know.
60. #7 ian from britton, BIBI Does What He Has To
(09.02.11)
you being from europe/england have been raised we what your parents were taught. Israel Is VERY UNIQUE, they have Been, Segeragated from the World Long Ago, Jews have been Killed, Murdered, Gassed, Shot in the head Point Blank, Hung, Mutilated and You what for? Being Jewish. So You Wouldn't Understand Bibi's past Behavior Most Would Think it's Weak, Bibi is FAR FROM WEAK. Three Cheer's For Israel Shabat Shalom/ Baruch Hashem
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