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Analysis: Turkey to complicate life for Israel, but avoid war
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Published: 09.09.11, 21:15
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1. "...the Turks aren't stupid." Oh really?
Charles ,   Paris, FRANCE   (09.09.11)
Perhaps not Turks in general, but the leadership of the AK certainly is stupid playing this game of brinksmanship.
2. Turkey to complicate life for Israel, but...
Daniel Barros Silver ,   Buenos Aires, Argent   (09.09.11)
I hope not. HOWEVER; when 'our' zadikim start elaborating their brilliant and flawles analyses, two names come to mind, among some other 15 'sages': Eli Zeira and the Yom Kippur debacle, and his DNA clone: Nowadays Israel's top (pei) zadik; the one and only eHuD MARAK. In respect to Shabat, may A---ai saves us all.
3. Turkish Rugs Are Passe
Noah Lev ,   hollywoodusa   (09.09.11)
Even though Turkeyhas the advantage on the sea, and Israel in the air, I would not waste one F15I on attacking the fleet. Turkey does have anti-aircraft missies, thanks to NATO. Sooo, what to do. Well for starters, Israel has 500 1megaton nukes...enough said?10 minutes and its all over but the virgin activity..lots of virgins. That would send a message to Erdogan and his govt of thugs..dont tread on the Jews. Ths is not WW2. But to Israel: get the 25,000 remaining hapless Jews out of Turkey anyway it can. Arming the Kurds and recognizing the genocide by the Turks will anger them, but still playing in their court. Better yer, Turkish rugs are a product of the past.
4. bla bla US congress this and that, like barking puppy
borzog ,   alanya   (09.09.11)
We turks are not afraid of stupid jew run congress USA isnt stupid enough to cause problems with Turkiye or they know what can happen to them in iraq and afg esp if we join forces with iran. as for Israel ..LOL smhhpfffttt its like little barking puppy when you kick it in the face it runs off whining. you cause us trouble? we'll give you double. and this is not even a start.
5. article has no basis in fact
bernard ross ,   st anns bay, jamaica   (09.09.11)
erdogan seeks a war provoking incident. His macho foolery will not allow him to back down. He needs a red herring and that herring is israel.
6. Life Has Always Been Difficult For The Jewish/ Hebrew People
(09.09.11)
Since Millinea, But Hashem Still Chose The Hebrew People To Introduce HIMSELF the gentiles, peagans and All Other man at that time. Then Covenants Made With Abraham, Issac and Jacob Still STAND, the problem is evil forces Work to Place A Veil over man's eyes. When The Misheach Comes then those who still have Faith as I wont even have to say??? I TOLD YOU SO Baruch Hashem/Shabat Shalom
7. ALL MOUTH, NO ACTION
Mark from Georgia ,   USA   (09.09.11)
Well we all have known for a very long time that Turkey wants to be perceived as standing up to the powers that be, and proving this, by using Israel as the scapegoat. If you hate Israel, your just so cool in the Middle East, that is what brings respect in the "Arab Street". Which only proves how dumb and gullible the Arabs really are, doesn't it? Their leaders know how to play these fools like a violin, and they fall for it every time. So Turkey wants to best Iran. Who both compete for the, how much I hate Israel award, while the populous eats up this slop. Basically they're just gutter people, worthy of little, if any respect. Can Turkey cause problems for Israel? Heck yes! Can Israel return the favor, bet your life on it. With the Turkish navy so close to the IAF, Israel would decimate their navy at will. Israel's Jet Fighters and bombers could take off and attack the Turkish navy within 5 minutes, without air cover from the Turkish Air Force, they will be mince meat.
8. to #4
edb ,   Israel/USA   (09.10.11)
Dogs that have a loud bark, do not bite.
9. War of Logistics
Lee ,   Miami, FL USA   (09.10.11)
If a confrontation were to happen, it would strongly favor Israel. Israel has no interest in a war with Turkey and would make few if any attempts to attack Turkey proper. Israel would fight a defensive war, with all the logistical problems being on the Turkish side as they would attempt to project their power against a superior Israeli air force.
10. unlikely to get shocked!!!!!
Robert ,   FARMINGTON,WV   (09.10.11)
yep you are unlikely to get shocked to until you touch the hot wire , let those turkish warships get to close to israel and see what happens.....
11. Terry from Eliat?
Gideon Reader ,   Moving around   (09.09.11)
Anyone hear anything from Terry from Eilat? He has not been well of late. Not seeing any of his cogent and informed responses in a week of so, I have a concern for him. He is a clever and decent fellow, and should be considered well in our thoughts every day. There are all too few smart and decent folks about these days.
12. Boycott turkey
Beary White ,   Norway   (09.09.11)
Hopefully Norway will start a boycott of turkish products, including taking summer-holiday in that fucking country. Too many norwegian girls have been raped the last three years. So stay away from Turkey, if you want to have your daughter safe and sound.
13. Turks
Michael Pielet ,   boca, israel   (09.09.11)
The Turks are not stupid, but Israel surely is stupid.
14. I think there is an element missing
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (09.09.11)
The Turkish Lira is tanking, because of Erdogen's policies. Their economy is on the brink of collapse, it ain't much better then Greece's right now. It might be the Erdogen needs to do something drastic to keep in power. I hope it isn't war, but there is nothing we can do to prevent it.
15. No Turk right to cross 12 mi limit or "patrol" Israeli EEZ
Dr. L. Brnd ,   San Diego, USA   (09.10.11)
Turkey has no right to "patrol" Israel's Exclusive Economic Zoneor accompany blockade runners across the 12-mile limit Israel controls. Military transit through Israel's Exclusive Economic Zone reguires notification and permission of Israel, and must be "innocent" - no military purpose. But before iteven gets to that point, Turkey's threats are in the process of triggering a furious reaction from the US Congress. The Gaza blockade is legal according to the independent UN report Turkey itself demanded, and the are no "sea lanes" between Cyprus and Israel Turkey has a right to "keep open". Watch Congress place a hold on Turkey's F-35 deal and all licenses for supply of other arms and technology to Turkey until Erdogan backs down - publically. Previously, there has been no need to certify that arms sales to Turkey no not threaten Israel - and that is no longer the case, need to reexamine all past approvals. All Turkey's warships as either US-supplied or US-equipped, so the US has a say in how they are used. Harassing Israeli energy efforts in Israel's own Economic Zone or staging an invasion of Israeli waters are not uses Congress has approved. Watch for not only tough limits by Congress on any arms deliveries to Turkey - but also a demand that the Pentagon remove all US nuclear arms stored in Tuirkey as a prudent precaution, since Turkey is now ruled by an unstable, unpredictable wild man who can't be trusted. That Obama is not on top of this and is again a deer-in-the-headlights, no idea what to do, says again what an utterly unfit President he is.
16. I think the Turks are that stupid!
Aharon   (09.09.11)
17. Liberal loonies created all these problems
Ray ,   U.S.A.   (09.09.11)
Liberal loonies gave all the Gaza to the Arab occupiers of Israel assuring us that there will be peace. Instead they created a war in Israel that did not exist there before and created pretexts for Jihadist countries, including Turkey, to attack Israel.
18. Turkey's navy vs. IDF fighters, subs. missile boats
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (09.10.11)
I know where I'd put my money. If Turkey has any sense, they won't mess with IDF. As to any threat to Israel's offshore rigs, keep in mind the rigs belong to American companies. If Turkey messes with them, Turkey will have to deal with the US Sixth Fleet.
19. #7 Mark from Gerogia BOOYA
(09.10.11)
Baby , another nail in the coffin of mooslum arabs. BTW mark arab stars with a LOWER Case "a". Not worthy of Any Capital Letters. Baruch Hashem/ Shabat Shalom
20. @#4
Henry from New York ,   USA   (09.10.11)
Could you please say the point you were trying to get across in English? I'm not sure I recognise this dialect.
21. #4 Israel will if necessary kick barking Turkey's ass
Menachem ,   Israel   (09.09.11)
Israel is not Armenia or Kurdistan and has one of the strongest defense forces in the world which outmatcthes Turkey both in terms of technology, will-power and experience. There is a reason why the technology flow went from Jerusalem to Ankara and not the other way around. Besides Israel is the fifth largest nuclear power so don't mess with us.
22. nuclear
turk   (09.09.11)
is there were a brain of israel it could get that an army a really big one pointed as the 6 th of the world and a soldier nation with a 1 000 000 000 000 dollar income could have bought nuclear stuff easily ages ago to illustrate pakistan so get ready we will be there i will be there too wait 1 year and see what a real war is
23. Washington cannot afford to imperil relations with Turkey
Theo   (09.09.11)
But Erdogan didn't take into consideration the Congress who already began to threat the otomans.
24. Israel can deal with everything, but the cost remains to be
Stephen in New York   (09.10.11)
Last Turkish naval battle was fought when? Israel fought and won the world’s first naval missile battle in 1973. The Turks have heavier ships, but the Israelis have unique technology. Israel can deal with everything, but the cost remains to be seen.
25. borzog
Alex ,   NYC   (09.10.11)
please do not call yourself "we Turks". You only represent the stupid Anatolian fundamentalist, Stone Age Turks, like your madman leader Erdogan. I know plenty of Turks who would agree with what I just said.
26. to 13
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (09.10.11)
How would you know?
27.  I WANT ME TOO !!
Mark ,   T.a. Israel   (09.10.11)
ALL THIS NOISE IS ABOUT USA ISRAEL DISCOV.ERY OF GAZ IN THE TERRITORIAL WATERS OF ISRAEL AND A POSSIBLE DISCOVERY OF GAS AT THE CYPRUS TERRITORIAL WATER BY THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH CYPRUS AND USA AND. ISRAEL CONSORTIUM !! SOME COUNTRIES ( TURKEY AND LEBANON ) TRY TO HAMPER THIS PROJECT.OUT OF JEALOUSY AND GREED AND NOT WORKING HARD WITH FINANCIAL RISKS LIKE ISRAEL USA HAVE DONE !!!
28. Erdogan's Arrogance
DavidM ,   USA   (09.10.11)
Erdogan's government occupies Cyprus and wages a brutal war against Kurdistan. He has never apologized to Armenia for the genocide. Now he wants an apology? Erdogan will be lucky if he ever gets paroled after his own criminal trial.
29. #16 - Who is stupid , I really wonder.
Istanbuler ,   Istanbul / TR   (09.10.11)
Erdogan is telling Greek Cypriots since months that he will not allow them to search gas on block 12 before completion of unification talks in Cyprus an threatens with military action. Israel signed a deal with Greek Cypriots for joint exploration of Gas. 15 days before gas exploration to start , Erdogan refused further delaying of the UN report , increased the tension , and created a reason to send the warships to the same region to defend ‘further floatillas’ although it is clear that none is planned. What we have now is Turkish Navy proceeding to the exploration region , Turkish airforce increasing its presence in Turkish Cypriot airbases , 50.000 Turkish soldiers at Northern Cyprus and an Egyptian / Turkish joint naval exercise around block 12 to start with in a few months ,in the very same region where an underwater pipeline is planned , and possibly Turkish Air Force deployed at Egyptian airports in the frameworkd of the new ‘military cooperation’ agreement to be signed. Israeli soldiers killing Egyptian soldiers recently also helped a lot , turning Egyptian public opinion about Israel from bad to worse. They are burning flags in front of your cairo embassy right now. I wonder who runs Israel and makes such grave mistakes one after another.
30. Are you sure
Hugo ,   Bulgaria   (09.10.11)
Maybe French are stupid? Maybe Sarkozy is stupid? Maybe who chosen Sarkozy are scums?
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