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Jewish groups worried by Vatican gesture
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Published: 18.09.11, 08:45
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1. The Vatican will always stay the Vatican
tiki ,   belgium   (09.18.11)
If they wouldn't, they would lose their purpose and 'raison d'ĂȘtre.
2. The Vatican didn't recognise Israel until
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.18.11)
>>> 1 9 9 3 <<<
3. vatican must be bad news
moron ,   galut   (09.18.11)
if jews are right to wait for moschiach then they are wrong about their institutions and beliefs..one good pope in 1600 years does not make a good church
4. obviously
tom ,   toronto, canada   (09.18.11)
the vatican's primary goal is to look after catholic interest, not jewish ones. that's one reason why they condemn "middle east violence" and not "palestinian terrorism". holocaust deniers or not, the society of pius x are catholics, so we had better get used to the reality that relations with the vatican are going to get worse.
5. Papism=AntiSemitism
Brod ,   USA   (09.18.11)
It is not surprising. The early church fathers of Papism invented AntiSemitism. Papism and Islamist-Jihadism are on the same pathway as Hitler and Al Hussieni in WWII. Both entities share a Luciferian god that crusades against GOD'S people.
6. Who cares?
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (09.18.11)
The Vatican has their beliefs and the Jews won't be able to change them. We can take comfort at the Pope's face he meets the Jew Jesus of Nazareth and tries to come up with an excuse for the church's behavior.
7. VATICAN NONSENCE
HERMIE ,   pa usa   (09.18.11)
The Vatican is no longer very relevant any more ...Less and less catholics attend church and very few believe in the holy rigamarole with all the saints and heaven and hell etc. What they do have is bucks and plenty of them. And a whole bunch of secret archives and books that would throw the whole edifice into question. And no matter what you hear from them in this 21st century they still detest the Jews for killing JC and still hanging around.
8. #5, Brod...The root cause of Antisemitism
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.18.11)
are NOT the church fathers, but Paul and the Gospels...the church fathers only used that stuff..!
9. The Vatican is the enemy of the Jews, like the Nazis
k ,   US   (09.18.11)
the Nazis were defeated, but that Vatican exists For hundreds of years the Vatican had a role in the killing and the torturing of the Jews Only after the world began sympathizing with the Jews after the Holocaust, did the Vatican stop promoting its anti-Jew stuff The Vatican should be destroyed
10. #6
Brod ,   USA   (09.18.11)
Don't blame Jesus for the sins of Papism.
11. Doctrine Shmoktrine... who cares what they do!
Alan ,   SA   (09.18.11)
12. #10, Brod...Jesus was a Jew and NOT a
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.18.11)
Christian...ever thought about that...???
13. #9, k..."The Vatican should be destroyed",
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.18.11)
whoever You are, I love You for that...!!!
14. What have we become?
Simon ,   New York   (09.19.11)
When I see the way the Israeli political system treats the Palestinians, I shake my head in shame. What have we become I ask, are we the children of G*d or the children of Hitler? To never forget does not mean to become them. The lesson of persecution is not to persecute.
15. Jewish groups worried by Vatican gesture
Alphonsus ,   Manila, Philippines   (09.19.11)
Perhaps we can work out a solution to this conundrum: Foxman should have the Talmus edit out all blaphemy against Christians, particularly the references to Christ and His mother. Then the traditional catholics will allay his worries.
16. to Chris 8
john Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (09.19.11)
You know that Peter of the Gospels was the first Pope and of course he was a Jew.
17. to 9
John Darren ,   cairns-Australia   (09.19.11)
What do you think the Pope will do when the third Temple will be built.?
18. Catholisism
Ben ,   Usa   (09.19.11)
I and my children are newly converted roman Catholics. While we have much to learn about our faith, I've never heard anything but admiration and respect for the Jews. I feel the same way myself. So spew your hatred if it makes you feel better. In the end, God will decide who's right and who's wrong.
19. Lobby
Kevin ,   Tampa, FL, USA   (09.19.11)
Authors seem like impatient lobbyists. They speak of putting all Catholic/Jewish relations on the chop block unless the Vatican jumps now. So much for God's time and patience. This is a push piece, do-it-my-way. For an outsider, this is destructive journalism.
20. Criticism of Vatican
Gordon Campbell ,   Port Colborne,Ontari   (09.19.11)
Mind your own business Foxman.The eternal Jewish wails about the Church are quite old and now lame.Most Jews are secular now anyways and can hardly be in the position of advising ANY religion.Start getting devout you stiff necked people and I'll start taking you seriously.Catholics and the Church and some non-Catholic Christians are your ONLY friends in this world today.
21. Vatican has some issues!!!!
Robert ,   farmington,wv   (09.19.11)
the vatican has some major issue everything from anti-semitism to moral issues within the church, williamson opinion has little credit , just another loonie. speaking out
22. #10, How could Jesus be Christian?
(09.19.11)
How could Jesus be Christ-like, aka Christian when He is Christ?
23. Sorry, I meant #12
(09.19.11)
24. Common sense
Bruce ,   Chicago, USA   (09.19.11)
Its would be a little strange if the Vatican judged internal issues of discipline by the category of "attitude toward Jews." Without reuniting this group it has no traction over them. As Rome stated at the time this first came up, Wiliamson can't serve as clergy in the Catholic Church without renouncing this attitude. For enlightenment on the history of the papacy and the Jews, read Jewish journalist Pinchas Lapide's The Popes & the Jews. Finally, if some of the comments made about the Church (and unmoderated for "incitement, slander, etc.) were made on a Gentile site about Jews, all hell would break loose. Try to be the kind of mensch you expect others to be, or shut up.
25. vatican
will ,   new haven us   (09.19.11)
you anti-Catholics are as bad as the idiot anti-semites
26. Please Jewish Friends note this...
Greycoat ,   Tampa, FL   (09.19.11)
Just because one is a member of ANY denomination, including the church of Rome, it does NOT make them a Christian. I'm not a member of that church nor want to be although I know there are some Christians to be found there as there are some Christians to be found in Protestant denominations. The Pope is not the head of the church, but Jesus Christ is for us. Some of the Popes from what I have read about their lives were NOT Christians, but Christians in name only as are many people Christian in name only. So when you rightly judge any action taken by this Pope, who I don' whether or not he really is a Christian, just remember the Pope does not speak for all Christians.
27. terrorist jdl
tom dee ,   savannah GA USA   (09.19.11)
I thought the jdl is on the official list of terrorist. Were they not just one of the group of stern gang which caused such trouble as to start lookng to putting a happy smile on their operations. I read they are in france presentlhy looking for former military people so they can have armed guiard for the steelers who are being watched so the idf cannto do the work.
28. vatican
tom dee ,   savannah GA USA   (09.19.11)
And the vatican recognises why? I see no reason why in 193 or today the the Vatican had any obligation to do anything?
29. The vatican will be brought low
moriah ,   sacramento usa   (09.19.11)
by the wrecking ball of the G-d of Israel, AFTER, we get all the holy Temple Vessels those thieves stole from us.. Go ahead and laugh... You'll remember what I said when it happens.
30. We Catholics demand Ovedia be removed
Nina ,   NYC   (09.19.11)
HIs comments about the goy being 'donkeys' of Jews is not acceptable. Take him down.
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