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Turkey: We thwarted Israeli NATO request
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Published: 18.09.11, 20:28
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61. The Problem is...
Stam Birsim ,   Melbourne   (09.19.11)
NATO has a precedence for this. Greece has unilaterally kept Macedonia out of NATO because they don't like their Macedonian minority. Turkey will be doing the same thing with Israel's participation. They should both be kicked out of NATO
62. Stop Bombing Iraq children !!! Just because they are Kurds
Michael ,   Irvine USA   (09.19.11)
You are racist and oppressive Erdogan!! Where is the apology to armenia for slughtering 1.5 million ? You hypcorites, do you really think justice will not be served eventually?
63. Israel/Turkey
Loraine ,   Monterey, CA   (09.19.11)
Israel needs to apologize.
64. Hahaha Please VETO
Ibrahim ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.11)
Just like always USA VETO any UN decision, it time for Israel to be slammed with a friendly nice warm VETO from Turkey hahaha
65. To #38 Anti-Semite
John ,   Alaska   (09.19.11)
You said: "Jews and Israeli 's are such bores.... .This did not start with the Flotilla.. It's all your fault...its always been your fault.." So Edithann, where does your hatred of Jews originate? Is it religious in nature? Did you hate Jews as a child? Finally if, as you say,"it's always been [the Jews'] fault", is your post a statement of support for progroms and other anti-Semitic acts?
66. PALEOLITHIC BEHAVIOUR
Mary ,   Greek Cyprus   (09.19.11)
This dirty arrogant attitude was raised against Israel quite recently. But Greece and Greek Cyprus have been listening to this over 40 years. Unfortunately we are not strong. But God has given us the most dirty and worst enemy as a neighbour. Its time for the world to see the real ugly Turkey face.
67. to #65 Who is sematic and who is not
Ibrahim ,   Jerusalem   (09.19.11)
Arabs are Semitic just like Jews are. So stop playing with antisemitic card with us. An Arab cannot be antisemitic because he is Semitic as well. I am getting tired of this card, just like how Americans are tired of hearing the race card. Get over it we are just Semitic like you are guys hello :)
68. Hmmmm, border crisis with Syria hey?
Az ,   Oz   (09.19.11)
Wonder why Turkey is playing the pro-Arab card? Wouldn't be because they are facing a Russian-backed Syria on their border would it? The Iraqi Kurds are flush with cash, sell them weapons and let them tie Turkey up in knots. Several Armoured Brigades (M4's) and modern artillery should see the Turkish Military shown up for what it is.
69. Erdogan will soon have a stroke!!!
Zad ,   Mbabane, Swaziland   (09.19.11)
Does Erdogan have doctors who advise him? Doesn't he know that hatred and bitterness are detremental to health? Does he sleep at all or he is hallucinating about waging war with Israel which Turkey will never win?With the passionated hatred the Turkish PM has agianst Israel i can bet you that this man will have stroke or heart attack or sugar diabetes very soon. Watch and see.
70. The Turkish stance is contradictory over Cyprus
Helen ,   Labelde   (09.19.11)
A proof of why Turkey could not be treated seriously, is Turkey's position on the gas discoveries, which is ridiculous. It claims there are two states on the island of Cyprus but denies the right of the Republic of Cyprus to search for reserves in its own zone. Has Turkey allowed the Greek Cypriots a share of the natural wealth in northern Cyprus all these years? Of course not. Turkey imposes partition on the island and at the same time wants a share of the wealth of southern Cyprus. What a stupid, cynical and confused policy!
71. This guy is too funny
Robert ,   NY USA   (09.19.11)
For such a big NATO member, Turkey can't get any F15s, no Eurofighters, and as desparate as the French are, not even a Rafale. Wanna talk about veto.
72. Nato
Hamsa   (09.19.11)
Turkey out of Nato, throw them out.
73. #67 ibrahim
solomon ,   bklyn   (09.20.11)
Wrong. The correct English definition of ANTI-SEMITISM; : hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group only speaks of Jews. This is probably because it has been going on for centuries. You can't get out of being an anti-semite (a Jew hater) by semantics.
74. Hate Speech
Orkan ,   San Francisco   (09.20.11)
I'm afraid, Ezra (The Proud Jew #53), you are a hate-monger and a racist. People like you are dangerous to the World.
75. To #66 Mary in Greek Cyprus
John ,   Alaska   (09.20.11)
May your nation continue to grow and prosper. May your people be safe from such monsters as this Erdogan, his followers and their monstrous allies. And may your nation be blessed abundantly, for she has blessed the children of Jacob.
76. To #67 Ibrahim
John ,   Alaska   (09.20.11)
First, let us discuss what is meant by anti-Semitism. Dictionary dot reference dot com has this to say: an·ti-Sem·i·tism [an-tee-sem-i-tiz-uhm, an-tahy-] noun discrimination against or prejudice or hostility toward Jews. Origin: 1880–85 So, for example, the phraseology of your post shows a prejudice against Jews, and your post emulates the thought of racist Whites in America toward some American minorities. According to the dictionary, your post therefore constitutes anti-Semitism. Unlike Edithann's open hostility which marks her post as anti-Semitic, your post shows a thinly veiled hostility toward Jews. But because of this hostility toward Jews, the dictionary therefore would define you as an anti-Semite. As for the deeper evil of your post: it is morally wrong to co-opt the truly justified concern for centuries of persecution that the Jews have endured. Part of the reason for this is that the Jews have endured much of this persecution, this anti-Semitism, at the hands of Arabs like you. I say this with unfeigned sympathy: you do not have the covenant with Ha'Shem. The covenant was given to Isaac, the Child of Promise, and passed to Jacob, also called Israel. Ha'Shem still has a word for Ishmael, the Child of the Bondwoman: Genesis 16:12 says "He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers" So I'm truly sorry. This isn't sarcasm; I feel bad for you and for your fellow Arabs, and I wish you would choose a different path. But you are NOT the Chosen People; that undeserved and eternal honor belongs always to the Jews. And the Promised Land is NOT yours. Like being the Chosen People, the Promised Land also belongs to the Jews. And the suffering of the Jews is NOT yours; this suffering was inflicted on the Jews by such Jew-haters as the Arabs, and so it too belongs to the Jews. But don't worry; the REAL God, the God of Avraham and of Yitzack and of Ya'acov, this REAL God knows you. If you repent and turn from your false way of hatred and violence and death, and turn to Him, He will give you another covenant through Moshiach, the Prince of Peace. As one of the prophets said, He is "The Light of the Gentiles, and the glory of His people, Israel." Yeshua Ha'Mashiach does not hate you, Ibrahim. And neither do I. You still have time to repent. (2nd send - please use this version, it is less strident and more conciliatory)
77. I'm sorry No. 74, No. 53 is right!
Alejandro Ramos ,   Mexico City   (09.20.11)
I'm sorry No. 74 but No. 53 (The Proud Jew) is absolutely right, what this world needs is more people like him!
78. Ynet is afraid to post my comments...TATA
Edithann ,   USA   (09.20.11)
79. #73 Solomon
Ibrahim ,   Jerusalem   (09.20.11)
Wrong. According to Merriam Webster Semitic: : of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic. And it does not speak only of jews. First Known Use: 1813 Thank you ;)
80. Hmm you ar
Ibrahim ,   Jersalem   (09.20.11)
"As for the deeper evil of your post: it is morally wrong to co-opt the truly justified concern for centuries of persecution that the Jews have endured. Part of the reason for this is that the Jews have endured much of this persecution, this anti-Semitism, at the hands of Arabs like you." Arabs like you, as far as I know I never persecuted any Jew, 2nd of all not all your fingers look the same. As for me which I didn't persecuted any Jew, I do not have to suffer the German and European Christian persecution on Jews, even if Arabs were part of it, I don't have to suffer this, so trying to speak of evil, while the devil is responding to my post. "But you are NOT the Chosen People; that undeserved and eternal honor belongs always to the Jews. " If you are the chosen person over me, give me a proof of that? If thats justify the killing and illegal occupation and descrimination, then I should ask a Sheikh to note down that Mohammad said that all muslims are the chose people, in order to justify anything we do! (I guess thats exactly (We are the chosen people) gave the birth of Anti Semitic people ;) "And the Promised Land is NOT yours. Like being the Chosen People, the Promised Land also belongs to the Jews. " Who promised you? can you give a paper stamped by GOD saying that? If you do, why don't you go the international court and claim all of the world ;) "Yeshua Ha'Mashiach does not hate you, Ibrahim. And neither do I. You still have time to repent. " I love Yeshua Ha'Mashiach, and I love you too, but no Thanks I prefer to stay who I am and speak of humanity and Justice and morality rather than religion and made up promises... Peace Cousin ..
81. to 1
idkak ,   Istanbul   (09.21.11)
Well when your "allies" support your terrorists. US was caught red handed in N.Iraq supplying arms to PJAK.. which is basically a branch of the PKK terrorist group active in Turkey.. killing civilians with US weaponry. Israel.. well also very active in N.Iraq, and the regardless of the flotilla itself it boils down to killing of Turkish citizens and failure to apologize or display any regret.. Iran can not be Turkey's ally, simply because Iran is Turkey's rival in the area. Actually NATO and US views haven't been working for Turkey for the past 20 years.. I mean the formation of a free terrorist zone in N.Iraq .. and labeling it a success.. was a red line for Turkey. NATO failed to support Turkey in the Iraq wars, and has become a puppet for US needs and a platform for self-righteousness.... the same goes for one other country and that is Russia. And there you have it weather they like it or not Turkey and Russia is heading straight on for an important strategic alliance that will most probably be extended with other Asian countries. Turkey has the second largest army in NATO, withdrawal of these and the limiting of the zone that it is active in will end NATO. The alliance above will also mean the end of or drastically limitation of US military existence in ASIA, M.E. zones.. as for Israel, well it depends on them...
82. To #75
Mary ,   Greek Cyprus   (09.21.11)
Thanks John for your kind and warm comments. There is reason though and Turkey is behaving this way. Obviously the strong support that has been given to them through the years. But there is a say (you should be afraid from the one you gave help) I strongly wish they realize what kind of snake they are feeding.
83. #79 ibrahim
solomon ,   bklyn   (09.22.11)
That is the definition of "semitic". According to Merriam Webster "anti-semitism" is: : hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-semitism It speaks only of Jews. Peace.
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