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IDF can give up singers
Hagai Segal
Published: 19.09.11, 11:45
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31. I can't believe this fight...It's either 'fight or sing'?..
Edithann ,   USA   (09.20.11)
are you all insane to equate the two? Judaism is the ruination of the Jew.. When women's voices are the enemy you have some real serious problems..... TATA
32. singers
colin   (09.20.11)
The IDF does not need to think of giving up on the singing of woman soldiers. It would be a lot more advisable for the IDF to get rid of the religious parasites. There is no religion in the army !!!! These preaching pests are not soldires but a batch of mercenries
33. Siren songs
Norman Gellman ,   Rehovot   (09.20.11)
The army is not a democracy orders MUST be obeyed! Females are an integral part of the IDF and as such have every right to be part of any IDF ceremony. The ban on the female voice is not from the Torah did the Hebrews close their ears when Miriam sang the “Song of the Sea” (Exodus 15:21). The ban is a rabbinical injection stemming from about the 16th century. What is needed is the update of this injuction to the 21st century and the reality of females in our society.
34. And should Christians walk out on Jews singing....
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (09.20.11)
....we would hear the screams of ANTISEMITISM!!!!!! from "here until further notice" as we say in Hebrew. If a man doesn't want to deal with women there is a place for him. It is called Iran.
35. If I had to serve in the military today
Sagi   (09.20.11)
I would refuse all of the following, under penalty of punishment. To stand beside a Haredi soldier on parade. To sleep in the same tent as a Haredi soldier. To sit at the same table with one in the mess. To in fact have anthing to do with them. No,I am not anti semitic, they are. Anyone who treats women with the amount of disrespect that these ridiculous people do should be boycotted by society until they come to their senses.I long for the day when legislation is enacted making it illegal to discriminate against women in ANY way,shape or form whatsoever.
36. There is one fact people often forget about IDF bands...
Yerushalmi ,   Jerusalem   (09.20.11)
Many soldiers in army bands (and IDF radio) are children of elites (also media elites) that got in using connections, as a move to "jump start" their careers. Allowing soldiers not to have them showed down their throats defeats the whole purpose. Why did daddy pull strings for his little girl if nobody would listen to her? Talent alone won't get the soldier crowd, but there is always media pressure on army brass and courts to force soldiers to listen to his angel...
37. 29
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (09.20.11)
I used to live in France. In fact it's where I was born and grew up. Ironically, I was pretty much pro Israel when I was living there. Always defending it, very passionately. It appeared that reality just got me at the corner when I settled in Israel. My regards to the kangies
38. It wasnt always the case.....
NS ,   Long Island, NY   (09.20.11)
Entertainment troupes and bands were part and parcel of the IDF since before the founding of the IDF. Remember where the late Shoshanna Damari got her start in singing. Also at one time Orthodox Jews weren't afraid of modern life as they are today. When I was growing up all of the Zionist youth attended the same parties and that included members of B'nei Akiva and NCSY. Orthodox girls and boys listened to rock music, danced and interacted with other Jewish youth. Orthodoxy is now out of control and somebody has to shake some sense into it before it destroys the IDF and eventually the State of Israel.
39. Okay we will give up all singers and
jason white ,   afula,israel   (09.20.11)
bands. However we want no more draft dodging by anyone. Male, female,religious or not, left or right, arab or Jew. Either go into the army or go to prison for 10 years. No early marriages and no pregnancies to deter army service. Leaving Israel at a young age to live overseas with parents should not prevent dodging the draft.
40. #35 Sagi and #39 Jason
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (09.20.11)
Sagi: Put all the haredim in re-education camps! Those who don't get re-educated, execute them! He says he's not an "anti-Semite" he just wants to annihilate all the Haredim. He'd kill them all personally if he could. Jason: Put everybody not in the IDF into reeducation camps (including the disabled and the elderly) this kind of guarantees that the IDF will have its hands full just guarding non-IDF prisoners 24/7 and have no resources left to, you know, actually fight Israel's enemies. How about we put Jason and Sagi in timeout together. Have at each other, boys! Freaking losers.
41. I see a lot of talkbackers in favor of extermination
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (09.20.11)
You guys suck
42. No, we cannot give up female singers
Vered, Israel   (09.20.11)
This is the problem with the Hareidim - they require changing everything they join: neighborhoods, stores, other peoples' dress, and now this. The Israeli army is the army of the Nation of Israel, the people of Israel, 50% of whom are women. If a woman is singing in OUR army, as women have done for 63 years, anyone who objects should not be required to attend, leaving the other hundreds of people to enjoy the show. But mark my word, if we change this, next week it'll be something else. We give in to Hareidi pressure once, and next thing ya know, it'll be like Bnei Barak, where they lie cheat and steal from the nation fo Israel and the police are afraid to go in (or just now going in to riots).
43. FEMALE SINGERS
DANIEL ,   CANADA   (09.21.11)
if the religious are insulted by a women soldier singing would they fight under the command of a woman, there will come a time when that could happen would they get up and run away because a woman commanded them to do something when that happens it will be a sad day for Isreal in fact it is a sad day now to hear this kind of garbage from the religious is a army not a synogue
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