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63% of Jews in favor of Shabbat buses
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 28.09.11, 14:28
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1. Erev Rosh Hashanah
Shalom hartman   (09.28.11)
And business as usual at ynet. Sinat chinam at it's worst. Is there no news today that this is the major headline?
2. Tendentious survey
Dov ,   Beer Sheva   (09.28.11)
The survey was obviously done with a tendency and bias to produce the results it was looking for. Hopefully we'll see less of this mendacious type of activity in the year to come. Agree with number 1: Let's have less sinat hinam and more unity as a Jewish nation AAfter all, that's why we're all here: To live as Jews in the Jewish land we have been graciously blessed with and should be grateful for. Shana Tova everyone!
3. Hartman wrong. Not sinat chinam. Democracy!!!
Steven Gilbert ,   Teaneck   (09.28.11)
4. Follow-up Question
Ellen ,   Israel/USA   (09.28.11)
How many secular people who want buses/stores etc. on the Shabbat want to PERSONALLY work on the Shabbat to provide these services? I bet that number is a lot lower than 63%. It is easy to say you want, but much harder when you realize that you are the one who has to give! ( up your family day etc. etc. )
5. Something needs to get done!
Gabriel ,   Tel Aviv   (09.28.11)
The control on our society that the Haredi have is ridiculous. Just something simple like getting married. It is easier to have a Jewish wedding outside of Israel than in. How about the daylight savings? Last year, we were getting winter hours in September. I and most Israelis don't want to live in a Jewish Iran.
6. Thank you, Israel !
Marek ,   Lodz, Poland   (09.28.11)
it's a wonderful news, wonderful New Year's gift to hear that a strong majority of Israeli Jews want more normal, open, liberal state, just like everywhere in Europe :)
ERIC........... ,   ISRAEL.....   (09.28.11)
8. Growing pains
Arnold-Canada ,   Canada   (09.28.11)
The Jewish people have 5772 years of history. The State of Israel is 63 yrs old. The State is the one with growing pains. We live in a modern world that the ancient Hebrews never had thoughts of what would be. Let us all pass through this new year couple of weeks , think about the past ,present, and future and then work together to make it through this growing pain period. Shna Tova to all.
9. And then we wonder why the world hates us
Eli ,   Israel   (09.28.11)
We claim Israel to be our ancestrial land given to us by God, yet we want to live like an ungodly people in the land. Every nation has it's cultures and traditions and all nations inspire to be like the Jews yet the Jews in Israel want to rebel against God. I am so sick of the Jewish people.
10. Easy answer let the people vote...
Sheik rattle & roll ,   USA   (09.28.11)
Let the people decide. Put all the issues on the table and have a vote. If 80 percent want buses and 80 percent vote for buses on Sabbath then it is decided. If the people want Haredi to serve in the military then vote and it's decided. Now that's democracy.
11. Happy Rosh Hashana to all my Jewish countrymen
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (09.28.11)
12. Reply to #1
Simon ,   Cincinnati, USA   (09.28.11)
To cite the results of a poll is not "sinat chinam", just because you don't happen to like the results. Let's see if the government of the touted "only true democracy" in the ME listens to the will of the people, or just goes about the "same old, same old" doing the power brokering that DOES cause sinat achim.
13. Bitul Vows
Avram Goldsmith ,   Toronto, Avram   (09.28.11)
62% Kshei Horef, 58 % blinds and the rest hard in understanding and MAKE DAFKA.
14. 1
Running away from the truth is like burying your head in the sand.
15. why would you ??? +1
shalom bartz ,   israel   (09.28.11)
why would you post comething like that on erev hag your the only one showing sinat chinam anyway....shana tova too u and everyone !!!!!
16. Since most hara-dim do not contribute
jason white ,   afula, israel   (09.28.11)
to society, their opinions do not count. Either men and women go to the I.D.F. only or go to prison. Go to work after or starve.
17. Very good article !
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (09.28.11)
It's time for change ! Seperate state and religion NOW !
18. So Israelis Don't Want A Jewish State Either
Jewish in Israel   (09.28.11)
19. # 1
J K ,   NYC, USA   (09.28.11)
This is not Sin'at Chinam. Assuming the poll was legit, its not wrong to ask people in a society to do their fair share. In the new year, we should all learn to live with one another and respect the fact that not everyone wants to be religious and just want others to pitch in and not force their own beliefs on others or take but not give. May it happen in the coming year.
20. #10 majority vote is not democracy
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (09.28.11)
It is mob rule.
21. To n° 19
Marcela Araújo ,   Brazil   (09.28.11)
Nobody is forcing the other to believe their own beliefs... The most important thing is to do what is better for us.
22. To n° 7
Marcela Araújo ,   Brazil   (09.28.11)
Which freedom are talking about? :lol: :-))
23. To n° 4, Dr. Ellen
Marcela Araújo ,   Brazil   (09.28.11)
The biggest question is... ... Some weeks ago, you didn't know what was wrong... ... And now you have a lot of opinions?
24. To n° 7
Marcela Araújo ,   Brazil   (09.28.11)
Just the eggs are all right... :lol: :-))
25. Thatt's just great! (SARCASM)
Kayla ,   Florida   (09.28.11)
Announce to the world --no better yet, to HASHEM--that you do not want a State that follows Torah. UNBELIEVABLE. ESPECIALLY NOW! Hashem gave us the gift of Israel for us to follow TORAH! How can you expect others to respect us if we do not respect Hashem and ourselves?
26. Is it time to renew the Shinui effort?
Michael ,   California, USA   (09.28.11)
Democracy at work, but the issues are very serious and there is very little progress toward reducing the disproportional power of the religious parties in Israel. Nothing will get done without separating religion from the State first. Israelis will need to make a strong stand, but it hasn't worked in the past. The Shinui party under Tommy Lapid tried by democratic means and failed, unfortunately.
27. choice in israel
joel ,   usa   (09.28.11)
in a real democratic society, the freedom of conscience & choice is always respected unless it will affect another life and the society as a whole! moses, while in sinai challenged the israelites whether they would take his side( with God of Abraham ) or take the other rebels' side, some choose the rebels, and got destruction!
28. to seperate state & religion, that's the question.
Hadassa ,   The Netherlands   (09.28.11)
29. It doesnt matter what we want
Eli ,   Israel   (09.28.11)
It only matters what the consequences will be. Over 60% of Jews wanted to build a Golden Calf at Mount Sinia, Over 80% of Jews didnt want to leave Europe when Germany was threatening genocide, over 80% of Jews didnt want to leave Egypt when they were slaves. Over 80% of Africans do not want to practice safe sex. Just because a magority wants something does make it a good idea.
30. But how many want to draft Arabs?
Scott ,   USA   (09.28.11)
Send the boys of Umm al-Fahm out to have rocks thrown in their faces, and see how they'd like it.
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