Hashem did not move a single finger when six million Jews were sent to wagons, including 1,5 mln children. Zionism at the time of creation of Israel was to a large extent a social revolt against shtetl mentality and most of the ortodoxy (like Agudat Yisroel) was for decades against building Israeli state. Most of Jews who at that time decided to move to British Mandate were secular people. Herzl had religion in disrespect. Ben Gurion was secular and Jabotinsky was sworn atheist. Read some history before you say indoctrinated things...

As long as the people riding buses on Shabbat are not going to stores to shop or restaurants to buy food, then travelling on buses on Shabbat should be allowed since many cannot afford taxis. I felt terrible about Ariel Sharon having no one to visit him on Shabbat but myself since his sons and sister would not travel on Saturday. I had to travel by taxi on Saturday and that is expensive but felt he needed to have someone to visit him when no one else did even if I could only say hello to the guard to tell him hello. The Haridim need to travel to hospitals on Shabbat so they don't stay overnight in the hospital hotels, throwing out paying guests who had the rooms that the managers tell to leave for a couple of days which is horrid.

Why you are so much into telling Israel how to be a better society or whatever else...you have nothing to thank the Polish for????? Exept for Holocaust and drink,what can Polish can teach to Israel? Are you sitting in a previous Jewish home,drinking and having fun for having killed thhem all? Honestly,anyone has anything to learn from Poland?

Can anyone help Marek from Lodz? He is looking for a liberal state in Israel,but he lives in Poland,the Land of drinking and drinking,where you can be anti-Semitic without going to prison,and where you can kill Jews going unpunished...isn t Poland "Liberal" enoght for you? Mind you polish country liberals,before God blow you up all in Poland,for having decide in your liberal freedom to gas 2 millions of God s people.. God was silent?mind you,He will not be silent any longer soon....

Jewish Rabbis say the reason for Noah's Flood was not just the corruption of the gene pool and DNA by fallen angels, but homosexual marriages. Not since before the Flood of Noah has any culture allowed homosexual marriages until this generation. That means judgment is coming on the world and Zechariah the Prophet in Scriptures says 2/3 of Israel will die which includes America (Manasseh and Joseph the Hammer of the whole earth) and Britain (Ephraim) and much of northern Europe (Dan, Reuben, etc.) . Tolerance of sodomy and homosexual marriages is a reason for the attacks on the West that will be nuclear and will decimate the populations. That could be very near, in the next day or so (Tishri 1) since 5771 is the year given in the ELS Scripture code matrix on EMP Attack at www.arkcode.com and on the Moses calendar 5771 ends in Spring 2012. It ended yesterday on the Babylonian Jewish calendar now in use that the Prophets did not use I have noticed. The danger is today unless HaShem is merciful. President Obama and his family are in Denver in or near the bunker under Denver Airport that is a third the size of the Panama Canal along with the CEO's of most of the Fortune 500 companies and their families and other notables and government officials. The new US Capital will be Denver if Washington, D.C. is destroyed. There is another danger. There were 1006 volcanic earthquake swarms in the Canary Islands in the last seven days (see www.trunews.com) . When the La Palma volcano erupts, half the island will fall into the Atlantic Ocean and send a tidal wave across the seas that will be 300 feet or higher when it hits the Eastern Seaboard, causing much destruction. Ha'Shem is furiuos about the Palestinian request for Statehood that is now in the Security Council. For that to even come up puts the Earth at risk of Ha'Shem's judgment. The Earth is also aligning with Comet Elenin (Nibiru, Orchus, Planet-X) that can cause earthquakes and an EMP event and volcanic eruptions. For Israelis to want homosexual marriages is putting Israel in great danger. Isaiah the Prophet said flaunting sodomy is one of three things that will cause Ha'Shem to allow an attack on Jerusalem that is atomic from the description.

just as the IDF is and should not be persecuted or face reduced funding. Israel could not have won ANY of its wars with the IDF alone. HaShem had to help supernaturally against such odds that Israel has faced. The IDF and the Yeshiva students combined are a protection for Israel in different ways.

from bondage in Egypt, there was a great slaughter of male Hebrew babies ordered by the Pharoah. Moses was a survivor because his mother floated him in a basket on the Nile River and he was adopted by Pharoah's daughter. Before HaShem gives much, there is often much sacrifice and sorrow that leads up to it. Like Rabbi Yeshua who went to the slaughter silently like a lamb since he was the fulfillment of the Spring Feasts of the Lord as the sacrificial lamb, so too the Jews of Europe went to the slaughter silently to prepare the way for the State of Israel that HaShem would give to His chosen people. Whether the founders of Israel were atheist or not is of no consequence since HaShem can use unbelievers for His purposes. It is sad that Ben Gurion was atheist if that is true since after all his work for Israel he would not be in HaShem's eternal kingdom if he was truly an atheist. But since HaShem gave Israel to the Jews just as He delivered the Hebrews long ago who had to LEARN the ways of HaShem that were FORGOTTEN, so it is now. General Joshua long ago commanded ALL Hebrew males be circumcised before entering into the Promised Land to fight for it. So, too, the Jews of Europe had to learn to do things HaShem's way as their ancestors did. Failure to do so will lead to the loss of HaShem's favor and Jerusalem will be nuked according to Isaiah the Prophet. (bald women who are raped, dead mighty men sounds like atomic war).

afula is the perfect place for ilk like you...you always have such obnoxious and disgusting views...stay in afula and stick sunflower seeds you know where..

... They are white with blue Arabic letter - and for some reason they won't let Jews on, ever, even though we are supposedly a free democracy with no religious descrimination.

To Anna #33 who are you to teach me what I should say and where I should live. Half of my family died in Shoah. Your generalisations about today Poland are so shocking that it's hard to believe someone cultural can have it in mind. To Rivka #37: A type of "explanation" for Shoah is disgraceful. Not only it is a slap in the faces of living descendants of survivors of this hell on earth. This explanation would mean that Shoah was a divine invention and the leader of nazis was the divine tool... Life of 1.5 million babies was interrupted: they also were a "sacrifice" on the altar? Think it over ... If Jews followed the ways of orthodoxy, they would remain in shtetls and most would be killed during WW2. It is exactly the social revolt, leaving shtetls, acquaintance with modern technology and science which allowed zionists to built the new Medinat. It is the sweat of people and excellence some of them gathered at universities that built Israel from scratch. To pick up the simplest thing: most of orthodoxy at that time was protesting teaching Hebrew, which was considered loyshn-koydesh, not to be used in everyday life, as in Israel now.

rivkah your very very intelligent and seem very moral kol hakavod . 1 problem your a pure idolater and a min enemy of israel read the 19th blessing of the amidah jews have been saying for 2 millenium its directed at you !

You have nothing from your g, never had. Go ahead, add all the blessings and all the curses you believe in, compare them and see what the bottom line is. The six million alone are enough to convince, are they not? Among those are 80% from my ancestors in twentieth century, gone forever. When you credit your g with something, do not forget this balance, make sure to demand from g some performance. It is great Israelis continue to support secular ideas. Whether they think about the above balance sheet or not, they sense it and display it in the latest statistics.

not celebrate the December 25 birthday of JeZeus, a Greek chief deity and sungod, not do I celebrate the pagan fertility rite of Easter of rabbits and eggs. I do not worship statues or kiss them. The statue of St. Peter at the Vatican was prior to that Jupiter and before that Zeus, hence the pagan Emperor Constantine compromise name of JeZeus. But I do believe Rabbi Yeshua was born of a virgin by the Ruach HaKodesh and fulfilled the prophecies of the Messiah who would be the sacrificial lamb of the Spring Feasts of HaShem. That is not idolatry. It is true faith. Read C.J. Koster's "Come Out of Her My People" before concluding negatively about Messianic Judaism which is not the same as Sunday sabbath of man Christianity at all. If you do not read the Scriptures and see that Rabbi Yeshua was the only person who did and could fulfill the prophecies, then that is your loss since understanding that is required by HaShem to know Him.

Just for you to know, Israel already recognize homosexual intercourse, relationship (know publicly) and even marriage if practiced legally abroad. Fortunately, there's nothing you can do about it. It's called democracy.

about sodomy, homosexual marriage and the flaunting of sodomy and you won't like what He does. Zechariah the Prophet warns 2/3 of Israel will die before the Messiah returns as the Lion of Judah to deliver Israel. Isaiah the Prophet tells you why Ha'Shem will let Jerusalem be attacked. Three sins are so upsetting to Ha'Shem that He will let enemies attack His beloved Jerusalem and Israel because of the flaunting of sodomy, women with wanton eyes, and cheating the poor. Ha'Shem created the heavens and the earth and all the people and animals and plants, big and small. That is a theocracy ruled by a King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Doesn't sound like a democracy to me. It is a Monarchy and Ha'Shem rules and He judges sodomy just as Sodom and Gomorrah were judged.

Come on Rivka,you are carrying this Jews For Jesus a bit too far.

Hashem have man a free will ,other wise we would have been created as robots. Don't blame Hashem for man's madness.Read the Torah before you insult our Creator.

Just like in the U.S. where 87% dislike the work of Congress, but bi-annually reelect the same Congressmen. It seems that the majority Israeli's get on board the train to modernity, but their votes create a Likud/religious conglomeration that runs diametrically away from their core beliefs. Power to the people, the confused masses they are.

Rabbi Yeshua 24/7, not JeZeus.

Those who have learned history must know that nowhere is the sources, the Bible, are the Israelites a religion. There are many statements in the sources that identify the Israelites as a nation, a people. Nowhere is there is any reference to a religion. The Israelite nation was given its Constitution on Mount Sinai which the mainstream has always kept for thousands of years even though the nations of the world have tried to erase this people's existence.

Wy you want to separete the religion from the state no in israel the religion is, was an will be, the motive of eretz Israel I am not haredi and not secular, but like a new inmigrant now I dont understand wath we are figting for so many years, all the dead solders jewish solders. And now you want to separete. If we dont ubderstand ourselves wy we ask the world to do it?....

Down with religious tyranny!

In 1885 to the year of the Christian lord, the Reform movement declared "We no longer consider ourselves a nation, but a religious community." With time this sentiment has seeped into mainstream Jewry, where in Hebrew the classical word "dat" - law - translates to "religion" and Jews of all walks of life indicate their "dat" not as "moshe ve-yisrael" but as "yahadut" - Judaism - a relatively recent addition to Hebrew of uncertain provenance and even more dubious meaning (the Academy of Hebrew Language informs me that it does not exist in historical Hebrew and its original intended use and definition are unclear). It is time you wake up to the Hebrew Spring. By all accounts, it seems, we're a religion now.

There is very little left of the so called "Jewish State" let s admit it . There is no reason for Jews who love their traditions to come on Aliyah anymore The secular Tel Aviv "State" is what most want. So be it ! But lets stop fooling ourselves a Jewish State? No its over.