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The Arabs became Jewish
Eitan Haber
Published: 24.10.11, 18:33
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1. Whether or not you are correct is irrelevent...
Henry ,   London, England   (10.24.11)
...Israel's military should always be prepared for the worst case scenario. It is imperative that Israel is alert, ready, and ahead of the curve on any potential attack from her enemies.
2. BS article !
Miro ,   Italy,Israel   (10.24.11)
Haber has nothing else to do.He should do some voluntary social work and not write BS.! All these phrases are baseless.
3. Goodness Me
SJ ,   UK   (10.24.11)
And there was I thinking nothing had changed since 1967 or indeed '73. I find this article rather disappointing as it assumes the reader lives in a vacuum void of information and media.
4. doom and gloom
alexi   (10.24.11)
etian haber deep down is a goodperson but he is one of those who could use a good course in martial arts to improve his balance. eitan-war with the arabs is better than nazi gas chambers. Your friends screwed up israel's deterrence-beilin, peres, olmert and livni and ehud barak. Liberman and yaalon will fight like pit bulls combined with israeli ingenuity will change things. and if iran iraq, syria egypt gang up combined wth their proxies to war with israel, then israelwill use its deep arsenals to take down the whole bloody area. negotiations wiht the corrupt weak leaders like abbas, erekat a master bs artist,and the rest of them is a bloody waste of time. it would be good if you rejoined the idf, learned how to use guns and contribute to israei's defense instead of moaning and groaning. And repent for helping to elect olmert into power. He was the most dangerous foe israel has ever had.God is not finished with him.
5. a leopard never changes his spots...
Hertzel ,   Tveria   (10.24.11)
SO IT CAN BE SAID THAT HABER WILL NEVER BE WORTHY OF WRITING A WISE ARTICLE. VERY SIMPLISTIC AND SHALLOW. IT TRUELY SHOWS THIS MAN, FOR WHAT HE IS.
6. Israel can win.
Vlad   (10.24.11)
First off, Haber mentions that the Arabs are equipping themselves with underground facilities. This implies that Israel will be the invader. However, to destroy Israel, the Arabs would have to invade. First off, a missile shower will be at least partially stopped by the Arrow system, Iron Dome, and soon-to-be David's Sling. Israel would then unleash a similar response at Arab targets with its missiles, aircraft, and warships. If they invade, their forces would thus be subjected to heavy air and ground attack, their navies would be destroyed by Israel's far more advanced navy, and their air forces decimated immediately by the IAF with help from the ground air defense network. They might have formidable defenses on their home turf, but they cannot destroy Israel.
7. Mr Haber do you think Israel has fallen
Eric.... ,   Israel...   (10.24.11)
asleep? You talk about there the Arab missiles and anti tank missiles.The Arabs would be making a big mistake if they think we have nothing,we have a big surprise for them.Mr Haber you do not know what we have and neither do I,but believe me we have all the answers.So please do not be afraid.
8. Senior Haber,
Observer 1 ,   Chrangbegbo, Ghana   (10.24.11)
I like your very perspicuous analysis and I thank you for that. One problem ,though: you deliberately omitted to tell us what Israel would be doing while your arabs barbarians start raining thousands of "sophisticated" missiles on us. Fold our arms and proclaim "SENIOR HABER TOLD US THIS?" See? Time to rewrite that paper, elder Haber.
9. Reflection of Tachman
Avram Goldsmith ,   Toronto, Canada   (10.24.11)
May be you represent DOR HATACHMANIM ?????
10. #2 and #3: NO! The author is correct.
Israeli 2   (10.24.11)
I never liked Haber's analysis and mindset, but this time he is correct. Israel should be anticipating a barrage of missles and the way I see it, Iron Dome, Arrow or other defensive weapons will have little consequences in the next war...otherwise we will find our enemies inside our territories and the war will be ugly on both sides. The problem is that the courts, the Mosad, the Army, the entire establishment seem to have a leftist mentality or attitude....mainly the notion that we cannot do this and we cannot do that because the world is watching us. We can't win wars when our soldiers are punished for doing their jobs well.
11. Careful obfuscation of the main problem :Haber&Co
ab   (10.24.11)
ae those preventing IDF to respond forcefully.It's them constantly warning should precious arabs be harmed the Sky would fall.It's better calling lawyer than answering to missiles.Haber's offsprings and relatives are such "indispensible lawyers",I'm sure of it
12. author is correct
anton ,   istanbul turkey   (10.24.11)
yet he doesnt say all if war breaks out arabs armies this time will be more carefull and well prepared they wont make same mistakes if iaf loose israel falls which i dont want tot happen but almost sure it will, just amatter of time i think
13. one thing missing; Jews have Hashem
Laura the Jewess ,   Jewrusalem   (10.24.11)
14. Arabs became Jewish
Henio ,   Berlin Germany   (10.24.11)
The real arab success is to have convinced the world that bombarding Israeli cities with missiles is self defence and that the bombarding of arab cities is a warcrime. Israel should notify the UN that in case that Nasrallah will start a war by sending missiles on Tel Aviv, as he has promised, than Beirut will suffer the same way. If Hamas will send missiles, Gaza City will be attacked. If Syria sends missiles, life in Damascus will not be same afterwards. The Israeli PR regarding the missile threat has been desastrous. Every missile against a civil target is nothing else than a war crime.
15. No more "mopping with the tap running": SECURE BIG ISRAEL.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (10.24.11)
16. VERY STUPID ARGUMENT!!!!!
YOAV ,   TEL AVIV   (10.24.11)
17. You said missiles
Hasan ,   Egypt   (10.24.11)
But Israel has the biggest deterrent in the middle east. It has nuclear capability. When the moment comes and the ennemi becomes bold it shall use it I suppose.
18. eitan haber's defeatism
yonatan silverman ,   tel aviv israel   (10.24.11)
eitan haber apologizes at the end and tries to moderate his defeatist claim that the arabs became jews but the damage is done. no missile barrage ever achieved any victory in any war. if syria or hizbullah launch missiles against tel aviv the iaf will demolish damascus or beirut. the idea that the arabs have learned anything in 63 years of war with israel is preposterous. the arabs are muslim dogs and if they open another war against israel they will do nothing but return to their own vomit.
19. Eitan Haber is partially wrong.
SyrianFreedomEagle   (10.24.11)
Eitan's claim that the Arab countries (+Iran) have developed deterrance is true. The situation is even more pervert. Hisbollah on its can convert israyel into desert. However, the possibility of a war has become nearly zero. Deterrance and mutually assured destruction lead to stability and peace. This is the reason why the Cold War remained cold (with a few exception). However, in this situation, ysruiel is in a losing position. In the future, the confrontations will have a non-military dimension, which will depress the izraeili people. isruiel will be like a person that is terminally ill.
20. Facing facts requires an open mind.
Sharon ,   Toorak   (10.25.11)
A well written and researched discussion. The opposite to so many of the mindless responces. In particular #13, Laura it's time to leave such infantile asssertions behind. I know of 6 million of our relatives whose prayers to 'hashem' were of no use.
21. Their equation, not ours...
Jo B ,   Israel   (10.25.11)
all i can say is that if those terrorists wake up one morning and for whatever their reasons decide that its time to start up with us again and start lobbing missiles our way, when we retaliate defensively and a thousand of their terrorists hiding behind their woman and children die for every 1 of our losses, i dont want to hear any left wing or "human rights groups" crying about it. lets not forget who decided that 1000 of thiers was worth 1 of ours.
22. GOOD, SOBERING ARTICLE! Those who choose to ignore it...
Rafi ,   US   (10.24.11)
... do so at their own own peril!
23. #13
Yossy ,   Canada   (10.24.11)
Jews have "ashem" ?? LOL!!!! Yawn!!!....you mean like in the holocaust? oh, ok then... if we waited for your "ashem" we wouldn't be reading Ynet right now...we simply wouldn't be...lol...
24. #19
(10.25.11)
Hey Habeebs how the revolution going?
25. Read it and weep. Haber not even close
Brian Cohen ,   Peoples FrontofJudea   (10.24.11)
Read his words: "All signs indicate that after 63 years of bloodshed, the Arab states around us learned all the possible lessons in the areas of deterrence, early warning and victory; today, they wisely combine diplomatic activity with military preparations." What!?!?!?!?!? Our Arab neighbors are sh*tting in their pants as their countries fall apart!!! Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt are all suffering Arab Spring syndrome. Their governments have either collapsed, are collapsing, or are threatened with collapse. Haber is shooting hot air.
26. The Arab States are in total disarray and Israel is stronger
michael redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (10.25.11)
Which Arab state is ready for war right now? Not one of them, because they are all undergoing internal upheaval and the last thing that they need right now is a war with Israel. Israel is militarily stronger that at any time in the last ten years. Politically? Europe will be mostly Islamic within 25 years so there's not much point in trying to cozy up to it. Haber's article is self confessedly almost a cut and paste of something he wrote 10 years ago, with a little tidying up and it would have been better not publishing it. He was worried about Israel being defeated then and is still worried about it now. The only difference he sees is that the price of cappuccino has gone up at the cafe where he chats about making peace with the PA and Hamas and tries to figure out what Israel should cede next. "I just wanted you to be aware of the issues".
27. But you forget something .....
Daniel Amos ,   Toronto, Canada   (10.25.11)
.... that is Israeli intelligence. All those who have read history and not just the news know that it was superior intelligence that saved the day.
28. #24
SyrianFreedomEagle   (10.25.11)
Shalom, my good friend from ysraiel... The revolution is going very well... We are close to getting rid of the internal occupier! Guess who is next, my good brother! ;-)
29. forever jew
J. Gad ,   Israel   (10.30.11)
mr. dont try to confuse our readers with fiction that doesnt make sense.
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