A letter to Yitzhak Rabin
Shimon Sheves
Published: 04.11.11, 13:21
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1. Mr. Sheves with all due respect: Let's do break out a good..
EBR ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (11.04.11)
bottle of Chivas Regal 18 and let's toast to the memory of a good man. In other words thank you, sir for writing this!
Rafi ,   US   (11.04.11)
3. Iran
Daniel ,   Tel Aviv   (11.04.11)
I don't think Israel would bomb Iran to disrupt the social protest. That's ridiculous.
4. The Oslo accords let to the road to
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.04.11)
5. The author neglects to mention ....
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.04.11)
... when Mr. and Mrs. Rabin flouted clear Israeli law when it was discovered that they had a bank account in the United States with nearly $1 million on deposit. So, maybe not as moral as he thought.
6. I think he struggled to be a good leader
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (11.04.11)
However, I am bone-weary of Rabin's elevation to sainthood all these years. No way should he have been assassinated - but let's not lose sight of what a disaster the Oslo Accords, contracted at his watch, were for Israel.
7. To expect anything else from a disciple would be naive...
tom ,   tel aviv   (11.04.11)
"Naive" is the key word her....
8. To #5, wrong
Joshua ,   Jersey City, USA   (11.04.11)
Rabin's wife, not he, operated the account. The maximum amount in the account was approximately $20,000. And it was a holdover from when Rabin was an ambassador in the United States, when his wife (and, for that matter, he) could hold an account. It was a technical violation of the law though, and Rabin honorably owned up to it. It is incomparable to the level of corruption of the current administration.
9. to 50
Angel ,   US   (11.05.11)
Your post was uncalled for.Yes there was a scandal involving money but he was gracious enough to resign but he was a good man and a far better leader than the current PM and his stooge Barak.Israel's leaders lack balls and should be thrown out.
10. you have to be kidding
Israeli   (11.05.11)
I havent read so much tripe as this nonsense. Shimon Sheves your god is dead and gone but the God of Israel whom you obviously know nothing of is still around. God save us from public servants as yourself, your days have long gone and are over. Go to the kitchen and cook a goulash and keep your tripe to yourself.
11. talkbacks are HEAVILY censored on this article!!!
Israeli   (11.05.11)
12. Include his actions against the Altalena
BEN JABO ,   ISRAEL   (11.05.11)
and those of board, that were bringing desperately needed supplies to Israel
13. #7, I think the figure was $5000
Elad Lending ,   Yahel, Israel   (11.05.11)
Otherwise you made the point that needed to be made.
14. It isn't good tribute
Borislava ,   Sofia, Bulgaria   (11.05.11)
It's very ugly to use Rabin to write against Netanyahu. Israel does not need a "flotilla" inside, out enough. Rabin was a remarkable man. Shimon Sheves is very controversial person. For those who don't understand what I mean, I'll not explain. But I can not miss such writings without "consideration". Deeply sorry, Ynet, I tried to express politically correct and polite.
15. To: Elad at No. 13
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.05.11)
Thank you for the affirmation, but the amount was considerably more than $5,000. I stand by my original number -- just under $1 million. But it doesn't really matter. If he had opened an account with one dollar, he was still clearly violating Israeli law. I do not think that he deserved to be shot, but his manic-depression created the devastating Oslo Accords (from which Israel, thankfully, is now free) and he should not be made out to be the hero he was not.
16.  a low point....
oded   (11.05.11)
this "tribute' letter exemplifies why the oslo accords and rabin's "legacy", in that respect are false. nothing good came out of the oslo accords, nothing. the plo is in our midst, rewriting hisotry, the second initfiada claimes thousands of israeli victims, and for mr. sheves to sit and blame only bibbi, is imature and irresponsible.
17. #5. Bibi is far better P.M. than Rabin was.
Chaim ,   Israel   (11.05.11)
#5. Neither Bibi nor Rabin is the P.M. Israel needs during these turbulent and dangerous times. However, of the two of them: Bibi is better by far. One can't let sentiment over Rabin's death (at whose hands we still don't really know) obscure the fact that Israel suffered the most grievous self inflicted wound of any nation in history, under his watch. That huge gaping wound is called Oslo. It is hard to exaggerate the damage done to Israel by Oslo. It caused terror, mainings and muders of Israelis (which had been rare and severely punished) to skyrocket by several thousand percent. It legitimized blood thirsty terrorists..and on and on. Bibi has not inflicted any such catastrophe on Israel. Bibi's economic leadership is stellar. Many western nations undoubtedly wish they had such economic leadership.
18. My quess whould be that most TB's are
Al   (11.05.11)
anti Rabin and his 'legacy' thus there are very few of them. Ynet the rag wont publish this as they have their own agenda. To YNET your agenga does not reflect todays Israel. Israel is far cry from the days of St Rabin. Move on!
19. sheves
michaelpielet ,   Israel   (11.05.11)
sheves is a convicted failed criminal. Rabin a failed prime minister.
20. Now write one fo the Altalena dead, they deserve it more.
Josh   (11.06.11)
21. @ Sarah B, #5
Michael Davison ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (11.06.11)
Don't write about things you don't remember or know about. The sum in Leah Rabin's dollar account was initially thought to be $2,000, and was later described as "somewhat over $20,000"-- a far cry from the "nearly $1 million" you claim. The court fined her 250,000 Israeli Lirot, which was about $25,000 at the time. Yitzhak Rabin was administratively fined 15,000 Israeli Lirot (about $1,500) and banned from party politics for ten years. Even though there was no evidence that he knew about his wife's actions, he accepted his punishment like a man, and never blamed her, in public or in private. Please don't slander the name of the last decent, honest prime minister that Israel has had--you never knew him, nor did you know Shimon Sheves--which I do. You're completely wrong this time. Don't let false information lead you down the wrong path. (P.S.:I got my information from the courty records of Leah Rabin's trial, where did you get yours?)
22. To: No. 21
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.06.11)
The bank. Just so you know, the court records were doctored so as to reduce the embarrassment to the Rabin family. Rabin's manic depression was well known, and people were concerned -- with considerable justification -- that he might attempt suicide. By the way -- he was the beneficiary on the bank account. Banking law in the United States require that beneficiaries acknowledge their status as beneficiaries (or, in the case of minors, their guardians sign such acknowledgments, but Yitzhak Rabin was not a minor, now, was he?). So for you to state that there was no evidence that he knew about the account is perfectly ludicrous. Don't confuse the spin that was applied in Israel to keep this psychologically impaired man from going off the deep end with the truth. Okay?
23. #5, #21, #22
Ros ,   Tel Aviv   (11.06.11)
All this nonsense of the "money" is completely missing the point - one thing you cannot dispute and that is Rabin's loyalty and complete love for the State of Israel - and what I remember of the "account overseas" - Rabin did not wait for trials taking years, he resigned immediately. Thereafter, it became "legal" for Israelis to have money in overseas accounts.
24. Social Justice: Whiners not Winners
Rube Vogel ,   Jerusalem   (11.06.11)
The only thing that the social "justice" people can agree on is that everyone else should pay higher taxes. That's not a revolution. That's just "spoiled" children who think that a democracy is about what you can get and not about what you can give.
25. To: No. 23
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.06.11)
Excuse me, but are you daring to suggest that Rabin did not BREAK THE LAW? I strongly suggest that you check the facts. The Rabins had a private bank account. You may wish to start by checking into the minimum balance required for a private bank account in the United States. Surprise, surprise. Looks like your "hero" was a criminal. Doesn't it?
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