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'US concerned Israel will act alone in Iran'
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Published: 05.11.11, 08:22
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1. Is anyone out there really knowing what's going on& who's
tom ,   tel aviv   (11.05.11)
doing what & for what purpose? I wonder. All this running in circles, half-statements, denials, confirmations and speculations about a topic that's been on the table for years. What has changed suddenly? The famed Arab Spring? That's what has made the World crap it's pants? Who cares about technical details of Iranian progress? We know the goal, that should be enough.
2. I'm sure the US will get a number of hours notice.
Noodles ,   Coney Island   (11.05.11)
But, I can just about guarantee it will be less than ten. I guess if they don't like it, they can take the initiative themselves, which is only what they should be doing anyway.
3. As Hussein Obama sides with Iran, it would
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.05.11)
be the biggest possible mistake, to give him ANY information in advance !!!
4. "First-class" defense systems....LOLLLL
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.05.11)
The Obama administration is Irans ONLY first class defense system !!!!!!!!!!!
5. As the Americans will now leave Iraq,
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (11.05.11)
ANY air attack would and could use the Iraqi airspace from the next year on ! That is the ONLY reason for Hussein Obamas newly found interest in the Iranian nuke program !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6. Doesn't the US sovereign X-band radar base in the Negev . .
Ken Quinn ,   Amsterdam   (11.05.11)
Doesn't the US sovereign X-band radar base in the Negev keep track of everything that flies in the entire Middle East? So what kind of stupid remark is this, "American military official claims Washington won't necessarily get a heads up before Israel strikes nuclear facilities;" ??
7. the entire discussion is madness
Rafi ,   US   (11.05.11)
Wars are always ugly.... and easier to start than finish... They should be engaged in only as extreme LAST resort. Regarding Iran situation, see latest comments by former Mossad chief Ephraim Halevy as well as other high-ranking security officials. Let's see... who should be relied on for guidance in this life/death situation? the above folks or hot-headed Talkback armchair "experts" ?
8. Well - the Chamberlain - US has waist its time !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (11.05.11)
9. dont trust obama
joker ,   sydney australia   (11.05.11)
he gave the UK's nuclear secrets to the russians against the will of the UK so he could make thr START treaty, hes a cowardly dog, i think hussein 'abdulla jihad' obama would even give patriot missiles to iran just to hurt israel
10. U.S. Troops
Radical ,   St Paul, USA   (11.05.11)
are not leaving Iraq, they are being reclassified. Rothschild needs this wr in order to renig on the Kissinger T Bills.
11. Helter - skelter ! my opinion:
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (11.05.11)
My opinion is that it is a "he says - that one said - she says media game".
12. Total destruction for Israel will be an...
Chris.B ,   Australia   (11.05.11)
attack on Iran.
13. Question ,...
split ,   US   (11.05.11)
Ignoring the hasbara crap in this article as someone that have a few relative's and friend's kids serving in US Armed Forces I would like to ask why the US should be concerned that Israel will "act" ?,...
14. As long as Israel attack Iran on its own, I do not care
Joseph Blough ,   USA   (11.05.11)
My only concern is that the USA does get involved itself, but rather lets Israel suffer the consequences of its own actions and plays no role in the attack, or in the repercussions of Israel reckless aggression. The last thin the USA needs right now is for Israel to bait into another war like Iraq, we do not have the money for one, and I do not want to see another US soldier injured or killed in another war to promote Zionism's territorial ambitions. Israel cannot successfully attack Iran without US aid, so I hope our president finally finds the cojones to tell Israel that it is on own on this one.
15. To: No. 6
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.05.11)
Because the first strike will likely be launched from the sea. Yours is rather a stupid remark ....
16. To: Noodles at No. 10
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.05.11)
Considerably less than ten. We wouldn't want the Moslem in the White House to warn his friends in Iran too much in advance. In fact, I'd guess that the notice would be roughly simultaneous to Israel's action.
17. To: Chris at No. 4
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (11.05.11)
Exactly!
18. Israel will not be attacking Iran
Ron ,   oc, us   (11.05.11)
The IAF payload is too small, Iran's facilities are scattered and hardened. They do have air defense. And, Iran is 800 miles away and there is hostile airspace both to and from the targets. Sanction can work, but they have to be firmly implemented. And, so long as the car buying public has returned to buying large vehicles Iran will have money for nukes and terrorism. Buy a Prius, Volt or Leaf, most patriotic thing that we can do. Oil at over $90.00 per barrel and Iran can do anything that is wants.
19. WAITING TO SEE IRANIAN REACTION
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (11.05.11)
More than anything else.To suggest that the Americans would be surprised all of a sudden is a ridiculous statement.They know exactly what is happening.All this scenerio is to instigate the Iranians to react..............and they will not. The first sight of a cruise missile or an attempted air raid will invite a massive retaliation.Is there anyone doubting it?
20. Israel is not strong enough to attack Iran
Beauchard   (11.05.11)
Haaretz published the remarks made by President Peres on a possible attack on Iran. It also published AFTER MODERATION more than 100 virulent anti-Jewish comments on these remarks. Some comments rejoice at the possibility of another Holocaust of Jews. Many comments that were not anti-Jewish were not published. If Haaretz was a French newspaper the editors could get up to 3 years in prison for promoting antisemitism. But this is Israel not France. The Jewish state where you cannot only deny the Holocaust with impunity, but where you can also make a good living by being a cheerleader for the existential enemies of Jews. You cannot fight a protracted war if you are constantly being shot in the back. The Israel of 1967 could easily defeat its surrounding enemies. The present Israel is militarily speaking much more powerful, but it is internally not strong enough to attack Iran.
21. This is an American U-turn
Alex ,   Israel   (11.05.11)
The US, England and Israel were supposed to be doing this together but here is a sign that America is backing off and an American attempt to direct the fire toward Israel.
22. using only convential warfare only,
Brian ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (11.05.11)
Israel could strike Iran with Matkal, Shaldag, and Sheyetet as combat controllers, backed by unit 669 and and paratroopers, with several fighter/ bomber squadrons, refuelers, AWACS, many UAV squadrons, submarines,missiles, satellites, Mossad, Aman, unit 8200, The nuke sites, Irans air force, air defense, and Navy could all be wiped out in short order, than with air superiority, Israel would attack Irans' missiles and infrastructure for about a week, while the rest of the IDF, reserves activated handle, Syria, Gaza, the WB, and the militant Arab element within our borders, who all attack at once. Israel could handle it all, probably even Jordan and Egypt too. The IDF could handle all of that, but Israel would suffer great destruction and loss of life, from rockets, mortars, missiles, and suicide terror squads. If Turkey, Or Saudi Arabia were to become involved, (very unlikely) though, conventional warfare would no longer be an option. There is no doubt at all that Israel could accomplish what needs to be done in Iran, the problem is what happens next, the whole region will ignite, and there is no telling what happens. Right now the two millitaries that reprsent the greatest threat to Israel(Eqypt, and Syia), are in complete disarray, and with Syria teetering, Hezboulla, is weakened, but the new Egypt is more likely to support or even join Hamas against Israel. Iran, and the Arab armies look good on paper, they have a lot of equipment and numbers, but I would say only Turkey has a good military, Iran is only a threat because of their missiles, the rest of Irans' military is pretty silly, even if their special forces cause mayhem all over the M.E., interrupt their logistics, and intel and they will be useless too.
23. They wish that , but it's nonsense
Jo   (11.05.11)
No one wants to be responsible so putting the responsibility on Israelnhas been very popular these past years. The truth is many countries want this and in a far better position to do so. Location wise thie US is in range and far better equipped. The Saudis and other nations are also fed up with Iran. This is the job of an international coalition, not Israel. Israel won't act alone.
24. rottenloser 3
Pete ,   Uk   (11.05.11)
Thats3 posts. Let me repeat 3 posts
25. It's just propaganda war !
Gregg ,   Haifa, IL   (11.05.11)
26. #4 - and others!
Yael Schlichting ,   Raubling - Germany   (11.05.11)
A big problem with many talkbacks is, that they only reflect personal rants. Indeed, the direct defense systems, established in Iran, probably are not capable of dealing with IAF. But there is a reasonable serious threat that is meant to not only built to launch an aggression against Israel, but also to build deterrence against Israel. The actual problem is about weighting values. I would like to use high figures, which are still from this planet. Iran must be considered capable of using Syria, Lebanon and Gaza as launch pad for it's missiles against Israel. This means: > 10.000 missiles from Gaza > 40.000 missiles from Lebanon < 100.000 missiles from Syria (but they have bigger missiles) It means warheads from a few kg to half a ton of explosives and it could mean chemical weapons. Furthermore Iran also is threatening us with it's own missiles, which may be inaccurate, but if they manage to hit Tel Aviv or Haifa, it's bad enough. At the end, in such a scenario we must expect some 100.000 fatalities among Israeli civilians. This is not acceptable! If we wait until Iran has a nuclear warheads and is able to deliver these things with its missiles, we have to expect some 2.000.000 fatalities in Israel! This is not acceptable, too! The question is, can we trade the 100.000 fatalities against the 2 millions? From the ethical and moral point of view the answer is clearly NO! What now???? We know that the Muslims (The Iranians aren't Arabs) are targeting civilians anyway. They don't give a shit on rules of war and ethics, if they want to achieve an objective. The Iranians very clearly say it and many other Muslim organizations say it very clearly, too: Their objective is to destroy Israel and kill all Jews. This may lead us to a possible solution of the problem: We know what they want to do to us! We cannot wait until they are ready for action! Using conventional means, now, would mean war-scenario #1 Waiting and preparing for scenario 2 would be worse! What is left is, that we strike now and go nuclear without warning! We just strike and nuke them back to the stone age. Iran, Syria, Lebanon! Gaza can be flattened with conventional means. Can we do this? NO! So we are trapped between a rock and a hard place. To be honest, there is no solution to the problem and the Obama-Administration is not exactly helpful! The only chance, I can see, is to "hope" that the development in the aftermath of the Arab Spring lead to a massive deterioration and cause Iran to trigger its launch pads. This would be a good excuse to solve the problem once and for all!!! One big problem is, that all western powers ignore the fact, that all Muslim countries are armed to the teeth and probably don't need these arms, but all the arms are traded against political favors and of course money. If we can escalate the situation now and cause our Muslim neighbors to freak out without obviously nettling them, we will have the best chance to risk only little Jewish fatalities, if Israel goes nuclear in the first hour of the conflict! To be honest, my whole discussion of the issue is totally unacceptable. It's sickening! I don't envy Netanyahu for being PM in this situation!
27. I'm not concerned.
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.05.11)
"Israel" would NEVER dare to attack Iran ALONE . Mark my words.
28. And we are concerned
Cameron ,   USA   (11.05.11)
A desperate, dubious longshot attempt by the Israelis hoping to "solve" the issue hazards a great deal. The odds are not good for the Israelis if they get spooked enough to try to jump on this solo.
29. An immediate Iranian revolution should also start.
Efi ,   Virginia   (11.05.11)
Israeli bombs, popular revolution = change in Iran
30. Bible Prophecy
Joe Green ,   Chattanooga, TN   (11.05.11)
What is so interesting to me as a student of Bible prophecy is that this scenario was foretold 2500 years ago by the ancient Jewish prophet Ezekiel. Ezekiel 38:5 mentions the nation Persia as one of the nations that will align themselves against the Jewish state. Until 1936 the nation of Iran was called Persia - today it's Iran. In the Scriptures we find out that the Lord will intercede in the affairs of man and destroy Iran and the other nations aligned against the Jewish state when they make their attack against Israel (Ezekiel 38:18 - 39:6).
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