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Gantz: Everyone must partake in defending Israel
Yoav Zitun
Published: 20.11.11, 13:13
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1. We Dati agree! However, let us do it our way!
Yos ,   Jerusalem   (11.20.11)
We defend Israel, we all serve in the army, 40% of commanders and officers come from our sector - let us work in our own way. The country will not live or die if religious Jews leave a concert. This entire discussion is absurd When I served in Nachal Charedi, there was a big Tekes when they created the Kfir Brigade and guess what Nachal Charedi did not participate in the after party, which included male singers. In fact they waited to start the music until after Nachal Charedi had left the area. There was mutual respect between us Battalion and the others.
2. Sooner or later we'll have to create another Jewish State
tom ,   tel aviv   (11.20.11)
for the Followers of the Unseen Spirit in the Sky. Yisruel could be the name. That's why there's no extra room at the present for the fake "Palestinians". We need the property for our own disturbed believers in the Unproven! If Muslims can have 56 states we can demand at least 2, right?
3. to "IDF" chief of staff and his boys:
Salma ,   Palestine   (11.20.11)
When a population becomes fed up, the enemy should be scared because you don't know what they are now capable of.
4. All Hez needs to fight Israel is an all girls choir
Alan ,   SA   (11.20.11)
5. TZAHAL RABIBIS
Alberto Nahum ,   Caesarea-Israel   (11.20.11)
If the IDF is divided is lost, the rabbis of the synagogue and the cemetery or marriage no say in regard to the defense of ALL THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT A MINORITY AND PASSING OF THIS
6. Are we taklin' Etta James,...
GideonReader   (11.20.11)
...Denise Donatelli, Karun Allysin, Janiva Magnes, Eden Brent, or just some local IDF girl that enhoys making squeaking noises. I do NOT see how the equivalent of auditions of Israel Got Talent must be forced on some poor putz Private soldier conscript who finds it bad, or oppressive or just plain stupid. GEEEZE. One would thing the COS of the IDF would be wiser in the selection of his battle spaces. This is a no win, no wiwn situation.
7. Datiim
Dan ,   NY, USA   (11.20.11)
Religion is the last refuge of the scoundrel
8. Jewish Ladies Singing
Norbus ,   Jerusalem   (11.20.11)
Rabbis ignore Torah demonstrate how Ignoramuses behave Miryiam Sang Deborah Sang Other Jewish women sang. Control, homosexuality. Relieve Agunot Show some brains then talk
9. Torah speaks of women singing - and men listening
British Oleh ,   Israel   (11.20.11)
The Rabbinute Judaism is in errancy .
10. Thank you Mr. Grantz but these efforts are not enough
Jew1 ,   Ashdod   (11.20.11)
In all previous wars, when all the males went to fight in front, it was woman who gave a feed-back in clerical-office back-up. They were the ones who were driving buses and trains and took whole internal country on their shoulders to run it smoothly. All those who say that woman does not go to combat, do not forget that she also does shmira, she also exists in check-points and she is the one who goes to check all those ladies on check point whom we fear might be a suicide bomber. It is woman who shares big roles in shabak, intelligence, computers skills in idf. She is 50% population of this democratic country. Insulting her and down-playing her will back-fire. These haredim were sleeping for 60+ years and never took any part to defend this country and now they want to insult the very woman who defended them for all these years. I hope idf does not fall prey to their unjust demands.
11. RIGHT RESPONSE WRONG PERSON
Yosef ,   Israel   (11.20.11)
Considering the seditious nature of the rabbi's statement, the responses should have emanated from the President and the P.M. in persons.
12. If idf goes by alacha, will these demands stop here?
Israeli ,   Israel   (11.20.11)
You give haredim finger, they will eat your hand. Give them inch, then they will takover all land that you have. After 60+ years of milking the country is not enough, sitting in the house on the name of tora study and making their woman work for whole family is not enough, making whole population suffer with their unjust marriage/divource systems is not enough, making chevrat kaddisha a money making machine is not enough, calling 6 year olds ____ is not enough, neglecting/denying voilence against woman in their sector is not enough, now they want to spoile the very unbrella that protects us and that is our security - idf. If we go by alacha will it stop here? By alacha, these soldiers will refuse to sit in the same row with woman and they will be asked to shift behind, they will refuse to have senior lady commander, they will refuse to touch and serch the lady suspect, they will refuse to climb on tanks and planes are their manufacturing is done also on saturday, then they will refuse to touch guns and bullets as even they might be manufactured on saturday. Then what? There is no end to these demands and their stupudity. Please do not give in to these lazy people's unjust demands. Keep idf free of their corruption.
13. IDF Jewish? Why?
Ariel Ben Yochanan ,   Kfar Tapuah, Efraim   (11.20.11)
B"H - Why Rav. Levanon thinks the IDF is Jewish is a mystery to me. What's Jewish about it? Nothing. It's true, Hashem grants it His miracles, but that doesn't say anything about its Jewishness. It says it fights (some of) Israel's wars.
14. #11 Hagana min hatzedek
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.20.11)
Although in the US the words would be seditious, in Israel these words are considered very mild. Yiftah Spector, a former general, organized rebellion in the air force and called for solders to refuse combat orders, not orders to see third-rate entertainment. Although in the US Spector would have received court martial, demotion to private, and possibly worse, in Israel he received a prize from DM Barak.
15. Lt.Gen. B. Gantz
(11.20.11)
How can I Help?? You Know Were To Find Me. Baruch Hashem
16. WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN IS
LAWRENCE ,   SAFED ISRAEL   (11.20.11)
Should they hear a woman sing ,they will have an uncontrollable hard-on ,a real boner and that is unthinkable and impermissible.
17. All besides the point
Elihu ,   Efrat, Israel   (11.20.11)
The only thing that the religious soldiers have asked is that they not be forced to listen to women sing. That's it. They have not asked the army to ban women singing. They are combat soldiers who proudly serve and protect. They ask merely to be excused them from a portion of a program -and have their religious convictions respected by an army the is ostensibly Jewish. Eneryoe needs to climb down a bit and listen. Once people turn this into an issue of immutable principle, no one will listen to reason. A contest pitting irresistible force against an immovable object will produce no winner - and lots of collateral damage.
18. Put all those that do not serve in prison!
jason white ,   afula, israel   (11.20.11)
Throw then in forced labor camps for a few years, even the pregos. Pass a law that no one can marry to avoid time in the army. Make it for Jews, non Jews, religious, non religious, even mothers that are breast feeding. As for music, the hell with it. If someone wants to hear music buy a radio,CD player or whatever. Soldiers should not sing, but do the work of soldiers, guarding, fixing equipment, patrolling, ect.
19. to3
noor ,   jerusalem   (11.20.11)
iam sorry but iam think that you are posting evry subject as if you are the mouth of someothers not yourselfe
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