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Settlers: Barak to blame for rightist riots
Roi Mandel
Published: 13.12.11, 13:51
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1. Only ShalomAchshav has the right to attack the IDF, burning
Yehuda ,   Ashdod, Israel   (12.13.11)
They have reason and justification in protest...
2. #1
Eugene ,   Israel   (12.13.11)
and when did shalom achshav attack IDF ? what happened is not protest, it is extremism.
3. Pyromaniacs and other maniacs
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.13.11)
It is a sad outcome that we need a pyromaniac to deal with settler maniacs in the Occupied Territories
4. Israeli governments evil acts toward GOOD JEWS LIVING....
Am Israel Chai ,   Israel   (12.13.11)
on the land that G-d gave us is the cause, THE JUSTIFIED REACTION, to the wretched treatment they have been given... IF this was done by them. I am not convinced that if was even done by so called "settlers". More likely it was done by Barak goons, leftist anarchists or the shin bet in an attempt to blacken the "settlers" The real trouble maker is the government. Leave the good Jews alone. If you stop ripping them and their families off their land and out of their homes in the middle of the night everything will calm down and be ok.
5. Such a nice world when you have no responsibility
Charles   (12.13.11)
Sounds alarmingly like the Palestinians blaming all their ills on Israel. Maybe they're not so different?
6. #2 it happens every week
Amihai ,   Yesha   (12.13.11)
Every week, for every friday for years leftist rioted and attacked IDF at Beilin and Naalin. Two wrong doesn't make a right, but neither is the current hypocrisy.
7. Talks are with the Quartet tomorrow.
Devorah   (12.13.11)
8. # 4 - Leave the good jews alone
mba ,   Israel   (12.13.11)
You are exactly right. Leave the good jews alone in the occupied territories and get the IDF and everyone else out. I am sure God will take care of them.
9. Re: Michael, Haifa
CC   (12.13.11)
Michael, you did not answer my previous question posed to you in which I asked if you are a Jew or an antisemitic goy. Talking about "occupied territories", and unbridled hatred about the frustrated people whom are persecuted by the treaoneous elite(s) and the foreign-funded 5th column inside enemies it seems the 2nd option is realistic. Of coruse Barak the toad is responsibel. He is not only a pyromaniac, but a traitor toad as well.
10. IDF is an easy TARGET...They should focus on the real enemy!
Jewishness ,   AMERICA THE BEAUTIUL   (12.13.11)
hitting the IDF is a std. cop-out and a Way too easy target...ISRAEL NEEDS TO ATTACK IT"S REAL ENEMIES- NOT OTHER JEWS! These JEWY-jew criminals, if they are not going to be persued by the state law MUST switch their targeting to the real SWORN enemies, those horrific anti-semites who daily attack jewish people and Jewish life, Anything else is self-defeating cowardice by hitting ourselves and cutting off our noses to SPITE OUR FACES!
11. Maccabees Part II
A Very Heavy Stone ,   Florida   (12.13.11)
The settlers are the only ones in the way of our evil agenda . We must break them and crush them to pieces,make an example of any who would oppose the will of the State which gets it's orders from the evil Empire. We cannot afford to have the repeat and rise of any Maccabees to stand up against the agenda of our masters. Every Jew must bend their knee to the image and the will of the Emperor and we shall continue to serve the evil Quartet agenda of destroying Israel by their peace process. Just Following Orders, Bibi n' Ehud
12. Gershon M., anomym source are RIGHT
CC   (12.13.11)
The behind-the-scenes provocation cannot be excluded either. just as with the case of Rabin's murder.
13. #6
Eugene ,   Israel   (12.13.11)
Palestinians and Leftist Israeli organizations are not the same. as far as i know Israelis are never involved in stone throwing. If you know otherwise post a link with proof.
14. Barak to Blame...
Ed Codish ,   Pardessiya, Israel   (12.13.11)
Many of the comments written here are incomprehensible in a world of sanity. The government (which for many reasons I dislike, but it is the government) decides whether a settlement should be maintained. It is the only source with authority to make such decisions. If this, or any other government decision, is resisted by force, the government is allowed, indeed obliged, to use counter-force. This is Civics 101. I wonder, as we move towards civil war, if the kindest thing the army could do, in the long run, is open fire and kill a dozen or so of the settler gangs attacking bases. If that put an abrupt end to such attacks, it might well save more lives in the end. The extremists would have martyrs to mourn and could organize towards the next elections.
15. 1 option left: SECURE BIG ISRAEL, nonviolent transfer.
Jerry ,   The Netherlands   (12.13.11)
16. Reply to Eugene, Israel on the actual law
Charles   (12.13.11)
Eugene dear, in Western jurisprudence which Israel is a part of, aiding and abetting a criminal is *also* expressis verbis makes one an accomplice and subject to punishment. I don't want to name names here, bec. of subject to deletion, but some (like J.P. and others), many extreme-Left Israeli collaborators DID routinely deploy violence against the IDf in the mentioned places for years and absolutely nothing was done to prohibit them from turning up week after week.
17. Re: Ed Codish
Yitz   (12.13.11)
you propagate in many English language Israeli papers your aggressive agitprop. Calling for violence is a crime. You do just that. Further, you as a suspected pensioner, the supporter of the self-hating, deeply embedded Left elite who has all the time on his hands is not really in a situation in the rich area to preach to others who dare defend their livelihoods from the elites.
18. PERHAPS IT'S TIME FOR NEW GOV'T?
Zimbi ,   NJUSA   (12.13.11)
FAILURE TO PROTECT BORDERS BY BIBI AND BARAK IS CRIMINAL NEGLECT
19. Things got out of hand because of attempts to restrain them
Jon ,   Baltimore US   (12.13.11)
According to that logic the demonstrators should be left to do whatever they want and only then can they be held accountable for their actions. Too bad other statistics show that 96.5% of attempts to hold right wing activists accountable for their actions are dropped with no action taken because of a system hopelessly biased to let them off.
20. #19 R U Kidding
babawawa ,   new york, usa   (12.13.11)
The Supreme Court is a leftist institution in Israel. Membership is decided by a panel of 9 people - would that be acceptable in the United States? If "right wing activists" get off, it's because there's no evidence against them, or they've been put in prison awaiting trial and have served their time. The judiciary in Israel needs a serious overhaul, starting with how judges are appointed to the Supreme Court.
21. Eugene
Alice ,   Montreal, Canada   (12.13.11)
Shalom Achshav never attacked IDF. They have no reason for it. Their homes have never been destroyed never have been "deracines" from their Land and besides they serve the ennemis of Israel which pay them royalties for their work against the Medina. They are a danger to the People of Israel and to the Jewish People at large. Besides they are "l'Enfant Cheri" of the Supreme Court and of Barack. They are their proteges. But not so with our heroic settlers. They have been despised, margilized and treated like second class citizens. Mr. Nathanayu must first at the root of the probleme and what has prompted this reaction from the young settlers. Barack will certainly provides the key elements...
22. barak was failure as PM, is failure as DM, failure as a man.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (12.13.11)
Somehow failures rise to power and destroy things with their tortured minds, but there is still Hashem and right minded people to stop them.
23. #9
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.13.11)
not that it is any of your bloody business who or what i am, since I can stereotype you for what you are without having to ask you, i agree with you about Barak, who is no better than you.
24. #13
Amihai ,   Yesha   (12.13.11)
No need to search long. Just google "anarchist against the wall" or "violent manifestation bi'ilin extreme left" and you won't miss a bit. A soldier even lost an eye there in a riot which comprised many israeli leftist a few years ago.
25. Typical settler hypocrisy
Ussishkin ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (12.13.11)
Barak both as Prime Minister - you should excuse me! - and Defence Minister now - pu pu pu! - has been more than 'Large' with the settlers, giving them most of what they ask for. To say he's the pyromaniac is babla'at. Perhaps at last this appalling dissident behaviour against the IDF - the army of the people of Israel - will wake the rest of Israel inside the Green Line up to the terrible truth of what the whole occupation enterprise has lead us to - this uncontrolled bunch of kippah wearing Biryonim who their friends in cabinet are tearing our state apart. It's not enough that they [er[etrate these crimes in the occupied W Bank, they ant to keep doing inside Israel too. It's time to stop this. It's time to save our state. Hitzilu Et Medinateinu!
26. Our neighbors to the north are leaderless
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (12.13.11)
If this is the best Mesika to do, then the Shomron residents are in bad shape. "I lovingly call on our youth not to be dragged into forbidden acts even at these difficult times."!?!?!? If my kids were involved in such a hilul Hashem (attacking Jews is definitely hilul Hashem) I would be a lot more pissed off do a helluva lot more than "call on them". But then again, my kids aren't high school dropouts like these losers. My kids have rabbis who teach them how to respect their fellow Jews and behave properly, not run around like drunken skinheads and attack other Jews. Shame on Misika. He should be demanding that the jerks who coached these kids give themselves up and face charges of incitement to rebellion and other offenses. And yea, what these jackasses did was treasonous too.
27. Those jerks don't speak for me!
Brian Cohen ,   Judean Peoples Front   (12.13.11)
I and most of the people in my community unreservedly condemn this small group of extremist criminals for their cowardly and stupid act. This attack verges on treason, and anybody who attempts to make excuses for them is irresponsible and a coward for refusing to face up to the fact that we have rotten apples among us. We have to weed these apples out by law - arrest the perps and throw the book at them: b & e, trespass on a closed military area, threatening, willful damage to property, attempted murder, and I'd also throw in treason for good measure. These scumbags are just that. They are NOT "settlers" and we true settlers reject them and vomit them out from amongst us. We don't need people who behave like skinhead neo-nazis instead of Jews.
28. Destroying Jewish homes in Judea/Samaria is the crime.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.13.11)
We don't know who is behind the anti-IDF riots. It could very well be another hoax to demonize Judea and Samaria Jews. One thing is certain. The real crime is destroying Jewish homes in Judea and Samaria. It is not only a crime but it is a racially motivated crime since ONLY Jews and Jewish homes are being attacked!
29. Ussishkin, TAU
"Hilltop youth"   (12.13.11)
Ussishkin, the radical extremist professor dares to further his despicable agitprop again dares to talk about hypocrisy, what colossal chutzpah!!! Let it be clear to you old self-hater once and for all, two points: a. You (your kind) LOST - irretreavably and most of all, DEMOCRATICALLY! The Left will never get into power ever again. Demographics took good care of that. Check very single poll on anything. JPost sensationalistically ridiculously reported that 43.2 % of the public thinks that rabbis have too much influence in/on the IDF. The cretins at the post of coruse couldn't see that this means that 56.8 does not think so, in fact some of them believe the exact opposite. This is just one example out of hundreds. Grab a sufficiently subtle poll on any vital issue perteaining to nationalism, religion, social change etc. and you will see this. Take my advice and internalize this loser: you lost and now we are coming! b. How many anti-IDF, treasonous "anti-occupation" petitions did you sign in the past decade, hah TAU "Prof."???! Tell us, don't be shy you tortured schizophre!
30. #24
Eugene ,   Israel   (12.14.11)
don't bunch all of them together now, they all have different stories and agendas, i asked you to to show me that shalom achshav hurt israeli soldiers. where is the proof ? when we finish with shalom achshav we'll discuss other organization if you wish.
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